Tom Brady's phone right now
NFL 2015-2016
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Some very distasteful 'jokes' about this on twatter
Ahh, don't know how I got that.
Seems quite harsh to me but I have no context of NFL punishments. That and I'm fine with it as I really don't like the Patriots.
Also, Tom Brady needs to update his ios.
Moral of the story: Allegedly deflating footballs is worse than beating your wife.
Moral of the story: The NFL punishes things to do with the NFL. The justice system punishes things that are criminal.
Well obviously not, but Brady's actions have actually had an impact on the game.
Did Brady bring it on himself? Yeah maybe. How they can find that Kraft and Belichek had no knowledge of anything going on and then fine the franchise $1million and draft picks I don't really get that bit. Probably because they feel they didn't cooperate fully which would be an excessive punishment to say the least. Anyway Brady will probably appeal. At worst it will be a 4 game suspension but quite a few people around the internet seem to think it will be reduced to 2 and we will get a glimpse of what life will be like after Brady...
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Pats fans on Twitter at the moment are remarkably reminiscent of Scousers when Suarez got banned. I've even seen 'Free Brady' t-shirt.
There is a big difference between defending a player found guilty of racism and a defending a player who "probably" knew about a football being deflated a tiny amount (when other players such as Rodgers are openly boasting about getting overinflated balls past referees)
I'm not equating their sins, I'm just saying the fans reactions are funny, nice try though.
Also worth mentioning that he's been hit for refusing to comply with the investigation as well, so it's not 'just' cheating.
I find the Pats subreddit interesting at the moment. Plenty of venting there too but there is also a bunch of rival fans flooding in to share a hatred of Roger Goodell which makes for some interesting reading.
According to Scott Zolak on Twitter there is going to be reaction from the Brady camp soon.
The franchise benefited from the cheating.
Free Brady? Looks like he's got four weeks free as is....
Goodell's a jackass and his governance of the league is a mess, but the punishment is appropriate.
Was what I was expecting really after seeing the report. Seems very harsh but I don't think the lies have helped. Why didn't Brady just say "I like them a little softer but I didn't know they had been over deflated". Slap on the wrist Jo b done? Instead it's escalated in something much bigger than it needed to be I think.
Why are people comparing it to Ray Rice?
Why are people comparing it to Ray Rice?
Goodell is a retard. Why was/is this an issue? It had no bearing on the Colts game, or anything in real life.
It's cheating. Cheating has an impact on the integrity of the league.
Yeah I do not need the NFL being moral arbiters. I much rather them rule on stuff like this that actually effect the game. Let the criminal justice system handle crimes off the field.
It's based off flimsy evidence, that's the annoying part.
Have you read the report?
Wowza, didnt expect them to lose draft picks for this. Interesting to see if the punishment gets reduced on appeal.
Eboue wins the moral cup.
I don't think much can be done regarding the fine and picks as Goodell holds the power regarding that kind of stuff and can just tell the Pats to feck off...however Brady will have a bit more power with the NFLPA and the ability to seek independent arbitration on it. Could be wrong on that one though, I'm not 100% sure. Largest team fine in the history of the NFL as it stands anyway.
He should have respected the rules, so the punishment is natural. But since the PSI limits are totally arbitrary and aren't based on anything, saying that it modified the game is weird.
How does this punishment compare to bounty gate?
Everyone's forgotten about Bounty Gate! Obviously, 'going for the head' isn't quite as serious this.
Completely forgot about bounty gate! $500,000 and stripped of second hand picks in the 2012 and 2013 draft. Suspensions for back room and office staff.
Suspension for Brady is what I expected and mentioned here after the Wells report and if there are grounds for him to be punished then by all means punish him I have no problem there. We say that rules are rules and he should have respected the rules so punish him, absolutely don't have an issue with that. What fecks me off though is that while people (and Im not saying specifically people in this thread btw I am talking about on Twitter, Reddit, the internet in general or wherever) are preaching we should all abide by the rules and that the NFL has to protect its integrity and uphold the rules 100% - it is the lack of consistency which is frustrating.
Last season the Panthers and Vikings were caught on a cold day using sideline heaters to warm the footballs. Thats against the rules, now of course it can be argued it is not the same level as directly deflating a football and I won't argue that point, however it has the same effect. Something outside the rules tampering with the footballs to make them easier to throw and catch. The NFL was aware of it at the time and there was no fines, no suspension, nothing. They got a warning and no more than that, little slap on the wrist.
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-v...of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings
Goodell and the NFL created a circus out of this whole thing. A punishment I can accept (even if I feel that the terms of the punishment are way too harsh, thats just my opinion) if there are legitimate grounds to do so its the lack of consistency that the NFL has in handing out punishments that fecks me off and lack of consistency in the severity of those punishments. Oh and the fact that I have always hated Goodell and think he is an arsehole [/mini rant over]
Mike Loyko seems convinced that the punishment in its current form will not stand.
I don't know, will be interesting to see what happens next to be honest.
@iSparky Technically by warming the balls, you expend the gas in the balls and therefore you inflate the balls, which is against regulation.
Great post sparky.
Anyone notice that Bill Simmons broke his media silence since being sacked by ESPN with YouTube videos of the Pats SuperBowl win?
Sorry I should clarify, when I say 'it has the same effect' I meant that it has the basic effect of breaking the rules and tampering with the balls. You are right it expands and inflates, I just meant that it in effect has the same effect of rule breaking.
I totally agree with you, apparently only the Panthers heated the balls.
Now the patriots know just how the Browns feel every year startng without a quarterback
@iSparky - solid point there. Chris Wessling mentioned this on the Around the NFL podcast too. He also mentioned the Bucs putting out a reseve team in the second half of their last game in order to secure top draft pick (which has been going on for years).
Im not a Patriots fan but this seems a bit OTT.
Im not a Patriots fan but this seems a bit OTT.
Cool, we are clearly on the same wavelength here, this satisfies me greatly. Ah, I thought the Vikings were at it as well? Maybe I had that one wrong but I know the Panthers were definitely at it.
Have no fear!
I like the look of Jimmy G to be honest, his movement in the pocked at times is pretty good he clearly has the footwork to be evasive and avoid sacks, with the prep time of pre-season and the Patriots knowing what they need to do to get him ready along with the offensive weapons at his disposal then it may not be as bad as we expect it to be. I don't think he would get us trough those games 4-0 of course but I reckon we wouldn't be in too bad of a position when Brady comes back, 2-2 maybe? That is of course provided we don't have Brady for 4 games.
If Jimmy G goes 4-0 (yes, I know he wont!) does Brady get his starting job back?
So much whining from Pats fans. Let me taste your delicious tears!
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