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The same people vehemently for this move are the same people who were vehemently for the Sanchez transfer.

This is fun.

Sanchez was showing immediate signs of decline in his last Arsenal season and it was pointed out as a concern.
 
Oh god no. Didn't we just go through this with Cristiano? Can we not keep repeating our mistakes?

I wonder what the caf was like when we were linked with Ronaldinho ? :lol:

A 32 year old Neymar is not a 23 year old Ronaldinho?
 
World-class player who's still got it?

He'll immediately our best player even if for a couple of seasons. Completely worth a 3 year deal.
 
I wonder what the caf was like when we were linked with Ronaldinho ? :lol:

In 2003 I think we were all salivating at the thought of a young, hungry, insanely talented Brazilian forward clearly set to make his mark on world football at Old Trafford. However this would be more akin to picking up Ronaldinho in 2008, when Milan got him.
 
Cant believe Ney is 31 already. he was supposed to be a multiple ballon dor winner
 
Well obviously not, but it is funny seeing people being okay with a punt on players nowhere near good enough vs players who likely improve us.

A punt on a player who is on probably no more than £50k per week is a lot different than a deal for a player who is on North of £500k per week I mean a years loan of Neymar would not be a punt at all it would be an act of lunacy and he'd be injured for 60% of it
 
In 2003 I think we were all salivating at the thought of a young, hungry, insanely talented Brazilian forward clearly set to make his mark on world football at Old Trafford. However this would be more akin to picking up Ronaldinho in 2008, when Milan got him.
Current Neymar is comparable to 2003 Ronaldinho, comparing him to the 2008 version of Ronaldinho is a joke.
 
A punt on a player who is on probably no more than £50k per week is a lot different than a deal for a player who is on North of £500k per week I mean a years loan of Neymar would not be a punt at all it would be an act of lunacy and he'd be injured for 60% of it

Obviously, I wouldn't want us to cover the entirety of the wages.

Report's been debunked by Julien anyways. Nothing in this.
 
Neymar isn't generally my cup of tea as a player with the play acting and the antics, however there's no denying his ability, even if you would only get it over half a season.

Assuming it is indeed a loan (with us only subsidising the wages rather than the full amount), I can't say I'd be against it.

We could have Neymar at 10 with Bruno then dropping in to take the 8 position in the two beside Casemiro. Considering we are very very unlikely to get FdJ and there aren't particularly any other world class candidates we could obtain for that position in our team, Bruno could prove very capable if he can reign in his somewhat sporadic passing. He would be great at moving us forward and the link up and one twos around the box with Neymar and the likes of Kane up front.

All in all it could prove a pretty shrewd bit of business.
 
Current Neymar is comparable to 2003 Ronaldinho, comparing him to the 2008 version of Ronaldinho is a joke.
In what way? 2003's R10 was way more exciting to watch in Ligue 1 than the current day Neymar who's been mostly injured.
2022/23 - out 3 months
2021/22 - out 3+ months
2020/21 - out 3+ months
2019/20 - out 2+months
 
Current Neymar is comparable to 2003 Ronaldinho, comparing him to the 2008 version of Ronaldinho is a joke.

Strongly disagree, for the obvious reasons.
 
In what way? 2003's R10 was way more exciting to watch in Ligue 1 than the current day Neymar who's been mostly injured.
2022/23 - out 3 months
2021/22 - out 3+ months
2020/21 - out 3+ months
2019/20 - out 2+months
Of course when he is playing...

Ronaldinho in 02-03: 12 goals 10 assists in all comps. Neymar this season 18 goals 17 assists in all comps, this despite playing half the minutes.

Of course Neymar is in a better team whatever but to say Ronaldinho's Ligue 1 performances in 02-03 was far better than Neymars performances this season for PSG (When he has played) either means you didn't watch much of Ronaldinho that season or much of Neymar this season. He averages a goal or assist every 60 minutes for goodness sake. :lol:

So yes I'd say their performances are comparable....
 
Nah you are the one joking. Every club wanted Ronaldinho back then, no one wants Neymar now.
And if every team in world football could afford his wages they'd be in for Neymar now as well mate. If Barca weren't too busy trying to add Messi you think they wouldn't be in for Neymar ? I suppose their current options are much better ?

There's no club team on earth that wouldn't improve with Neymar in their starting 11, City included. Or maybe you think Grealish is better ?

I'm talking pure footballing ability, you want to argue attitude or whatever, that's fine. But to say that current Neymar (footballing wise) can't be compared to 02-03 Ronaldinho and that no team would want him is ridiculous. Do you even watch him ?
 
Strongly disagree, for the obvious reasons.

I mean Ronaldinho was pretty much 'washed' and 'finished' in 2008.

Neymar was having an incredibly productive season(more productive than Mbappe and neck and neck with Messi) before he got injured.
 
Christ this is bad take 2003 Ronaldinho was the most exciting player in world football and well 2023 Neymar is not the most exciting player in world football

I mean speak for yourself. Most would have him up there.
 
I mean Ronaldinho was pretty much 'washed' and 'finished' in 2008.

Neymar was having an incredibly productive season(more productive than Mbappe and neck and neck with Messi) before he got injured.

It’s not a perfect comparison, but in terms of age, fitness, possibly hunger, and I think most importantly likely trajectory, there are considerably more similarities.
 
Of course when he is playing...

Ronaldinho in 02-03: 12 goals 10 assists in all comps. Neymar this season 18 goals 17 assists in all comps, this despite playing half the minutes.

Of course Neymar is in a better team whatever but to say Ronaldinho's Ligue 1 performances in 02-03 was far better than Neymars performances this season for PSG (When he has played) either means you didn't watch much of Ronaldinho that season or much of Neymar this season. He averages a goal or assist every 60 minutes for goodness sake. :lol:

So yes I'd say their performances are comparable....
I followed Ronaldinho closely at the time. There was a fan made website dedicated to him www.ronaldinh10.com and they were posting compilations and skills from almost every match you had like 10 - 15sec clips. And he was amazing to watch at the time.
 
It’s not a perfect comparison, but in terms of age, fitness, possibly hunger, and I think most importantly likely trajectory, there are considerably more similarities.

Fitness concerns are definitely similar and maybe Neymar declines significantly next season. But the level of performances at the time are pretty dissimilar. Neymar was way better this year than Ronaldinho was in 2008.
 
I followed Ronaldinho closely at the time. There was a fan made website dedicated to him www.ronaldinh10.com and they were posting compilations and skills from almost every match you had like 10 - 15sec clips. And he was amazing to watch at the time.
I know he was but so is Neymar, have you not seen some of the things Neymar has done this season ?

I know there's a problem with his attitude and injury record etc. I understand people have reservations about that but people on here are talking as if he's not one of the best players in the world and he's some bum. Some people here say Rashford would start over him for Gods sake. :lol:
 
I know he was but so is Neymar, have you not seen some of the things Neymar has done this season ?

I know there's a problem with his attitude and injury record etc. I understand people have reservations about that but people on here are talking as if he's not one of the best players in the world and he's some bum. Some people here say Rashford would start over him for Gods sake. :lol:
Yeah but he's doing them in Ligue 1 not to mention he's playing for the best team in that league and by a far margin at that. When Ronaldinho was at PSG they were barely a top 10 team.
 
Yes lets base how good player is via the international games. Like that was ever a true indicator of what a player's quality was.
So you are saying that Sancho is as good as Neymar?

Also on the point of judging players based on international games, Neymar has been a proven world-class performer even at a club level for almost a decade now.
 
Love how we always get linked to these clowns. :lol: ETH wouldn’t sign him in a million years
 
So you are saying that Sancho is as good as Neymar?

Also on the point of judging players based on international games, Neymar has been a proven world-class performer even at a club level for almost a decade now.
No im saying that you shouldn't judge how a player is doing in a low quality league and think he's gonna do the same in EPL
 
And if every team in world football could afford his wages they'd be in for Neymar now as well mate. If Barca weren't too busy trying to add Messi you think they wouldn't be in for Neymar ? I suppose their current options are much better ?

There's no club team on earth that wouldn't improve with Neymar in their starting 11, City included. Or maybe you think Grealish is better ?
Neymar being better than Grealish doesn’t mean City would improve with him in the team. They don’t need him. He is a 31-year-old winger with plenty of recent injury and attitude problems. It’s a team sport and in a highly competitive, physical league, he’s not a risk many are ready to take.
 
No im saying that you shouldn't judge how a player is doing in a low quality league and think he's gonna do the same in EPL

Here we go again with the mythical Premier League.

Football isn't played with exo suits here.

There's plenty of examples of Premier League proven players completely flopping in other leagues.
 
Yeah but he's doing them in Ligue 1 not to mention he's playing for the best team in that league and by a far margin at that. When Ronaldinho was at PSG they were barely a top 10 team.
So he is doing them ? :lol:
 
Neymar being better than Grealish doesn’t mean City would improve with him in the team. They don’t need him. He is a 31-year-old winger with plenty of recent injury and attitude problems. It’s a team sport and in a highly competitive, physical league, he’s not a risk many are ready to take.
But he is better than Grealish ?

From a footballing aspect ?

Thanks, that's my point.
 
Hes past it with a worsening injury record. Should and thankfully probably will avoid. Let him go to the chelsea circus
 
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