But Neymar was skinnier than Dhalsim and doesn’t have a rubber body to compensate.Complete nonsense. The World Cup is very difficult to win (at any time in history, I don't care what 'prime' teams are there or not there) and the better your team, the more chance you have of going the whole way and offsetting the inevitable potholes of bad performances and Ill luck. This is pretty straightforward.
Kléberson was one of the best players in that World Cup. He had a performance similar to Mascherano's in 2014. Better than Ronaldinho for sure.
No they weren't. When did Brazil ever have the best team in the tournament in Neymar's period? In 2014, he scored or created half of all their goals in the competition, and basically carried the team offensively, in a way that Ronaldinho never did. Then he got injured and we all know what happened after that. No team that is that reliant on one player is winning the World Cup, unless that player is Diego Maradona, and Neymar, for all his gifts, ain't that. But then, neither is Ronaldinho.
Kleberson was great at that WC and Roque Junior wasn't bad at all. That Brazil team was stacked and that three Rs attacking trio is stuff of legends.
Davids was the catalyst for Barcelona before Ronaldinho came to the fore. History is being rewritten in this thread that Ronaldinho was some Maradona-esque figure at Barcelona when in fact he was one amongst many who saw them perform as they did. Take Eto'o, Deco and Davids out of those teams and Ronaldinho's platform to perform would be halved. He was a great player for Barcelona and an un-paralled entertainer, but the talk is taking him into another realm and downplaying the massive contributions of the players around him, like it was a one-man show rather than a great entertainer grabbing all the headlines whilst a lot of very good players went about their business effectively.
Ronaldinho would have been in Messi's shadow too, he wasn't the best player in the Brazilian NT he played in.
Mbappe won player of the year every year, a lot was due to injuries but it was Mbappé that was carrying that team with consistent performance, he’s probably the best Ligue 1 player of all time so to say Neymar was the clearly better player when they were there, don’t think it’s right.
Neymar having seasons curtailed by injury opens the doors for others to win awards. Those watching PSG or Ligue 1 week in and week out used to always set me straight on Neymar’s impact. Would be happy for them to set the record straight, but Neymar being the top dog there isn’t new news.
It’s not others plural, it’s all Mbappé, he won 5x Ligue 1 Player of the Year and 256 goals in 308 games. I think Neymar was brilliant when he was fit for PSG as well but you can’t rely on a player who misses half the games. If they had both been fit and top form then they might have won the CL but I don’t think they were the most complementary players ever. Both fine players though.
Yeah, either or, still, Neymar > Mbappe in that side. Having said that, it is Neymar who gets played down in these discussions whilst Ronaldinho gets elevated to being a peerless one-man army, which is a re-imagining of reality especially so when Ronaldinho’s true time to shine and claim a footing alongside the upper echelon came in ‘06 and he failed it spectacularly.
Until 2021
You're right, he was actually pretty shit who didn't know how to dribble or go past defenders. One of his weaknesses. And those 20+ league goals he scored for Barcelona in his first two seasons as a winger? Pure garbage goals, simply tap-ins where Messi did all the work. His assists were all Messi too.
It is right. Mbappe winning those things means nothing, he is French and from Paris no less. If you watched the games when they played together, Neymar ran the entire attack.
