has anyone got that last page from the fax? what do you mean you can't find it?Can you imagine if they drag this out past the transfer deadline
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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Pathetic from La Liga. That basically means that they don't give two cents about a valid player contract. I always thought the compulsory buyout clauses are supposed to give the players a certain level of freedom on the job market, but it looks like I was wrong. What good is a buyout clause when the league can just say "lol, no"?
Exactly. I don't get how they can be obstructive or outright say 'No' when contractual obligations are being met.
Would be funny if they dragged this on for couple of weeks only to still lose him and have their pants pulled down by clubs they approach for replacements.
Why would they? Other leagues/clubs don't give any clauses at all. They just have to because of spanish laws. So they should sign for no one?
If it doesn't go through, Neymar will very likely initiate contract termination procedure based on violation of his contract, and the result might be for Barcelona to lose a player on a free (for a negative amount even, as the club would be obliged to cover legal costs if Neymar wins the case)
I actually think it's great that La Liga is challenging this transfer. The whole deal stinks, and it looks like PSG are trying to bend the rules regarding FFP. For us, who are not state financed it's also good that the authorities in European football is pressured by the Spanish FA in this regard.
Neymar could then sue for breach of contract.Can you imagine if they drag this out past the transfer deadline
And possibly leave on a free.
That would funnier.
They hace no authority .
It's never great when someone makes the rules as they go along.
We live in a civil society.
It is amusing that it is Spanish law which requires the existence of a buyout clause and then the Spanish league is refusing to honour it. Maybe the LFP would be better off lobbying their own government to repeal the law.
If Neymar joins PSG and then they are found to have broken FFP rules a few months later, it will make a mockery of the whole system. PSG might be willing to accept a fine/European ban in exchange for being able to sign Neymar.
It's all posturing imo. The transfer will in the end go through, but with more pressure on UEFA to have a closer look on the finances of the transfer.
You could also argue that PSG makes the rules as they go along with FFP.
Hope PSG trigger Suarez's release clause as well. Just for a laugh
No, but would you like to go an work in a country thinking you have this protection if things go bad or you just want a change of scenery and then the parent company can just ignore the contract? The clause is to ensure that the clubs get a fair return for their asset and the player can move once this has been justified. I'd be pretty annoyed in that situation and it would make me think twice.
Of course the Neymar situation is a little different because it's suspected he's moving for money, rather than for outright footballing reasons.
That's why I am loving this transfer so much.
It screws over Barca but it also means UEFA will react to the cries of one of their darling clubs subsequently.
I'm sure it will all be resolved. PSG will get Neymar and Barca will get 200million. Barca may be bitter about the whole thing but they won't risk losing him for free.
This saga has made every transfer look straight forward. And tbh it's hilarious as a neutral.
This saga has made every transfer look straight forward. And tbh it's hilarious as a neutral.
This is hilarious, I'm so glad United aren't involved! Seems like Barca, and now La Liga have got their paddy hat on and intend to bury their head in the sand because they never thought this could happen.
Once a player has made his mind up that he wants to leave, sometimes it's better to accept it and move on because what good is an upset Neymar that is stuck at a club he doesn't want to play for? He'll be far less effective and probably end up faking injuries so he doesn't have to play.
The FFP implications surely are nothing to do with anyone in Spain? Paris and associated parties are paying and that's all UEFA will be interested in.
Once a player has made his mind up that he wants to leave, sometimes it's better to accept it and move on because what good is an upset Neymar that is stuck at a club he doesn't want to play for? He'll be far less effective and probably end up faking injuries so he doesn't have to play.
The FFP implications surely are nothing to do with anyone in Spain? Paris and associated parties are paying and that's all UEFA will be interested in.
And in the end that is good news for our club. If FFP is governed correctly, that put us in a stronger position.
If I were in Barcelona position I would accept a bid. Can't see how is this helpful for them as it will just prolong the transfer with them even having less time to act in the market.
But can't say it isn't all amusing on the other hand.
But can't say it isn't all amusing on the other hand.
It makes it funnier than La Liga never had a problem with PSG signing Jese from Madrid.
If they were at least consistent with this it would be a start.
If they were at least consistent with this it would be a start.
PSG can surely sell a few players and end up justifying the fee under FFP even?
Exactly
In today's market PSG could recoup 100m in player transfers within a week.
fecking idiots at La Liga, I want FFP to work but this isn't the way to do it.
fecking idiots at La Liga, I want FFP to work but this isn't the way to do it.
also Yuri Berchiche from Sociedad (this summer) and Krychowiak from Sevilla (last summer).
I’ve got a feeling this is going to get super toxic.
Where’s my popcorn?
Where’s my popcorn?
Uefa will over rule
I've never understood how that worked.
Arsenal activated his release clause, but Liverpool still said no. How did he not end up at Arsenal?
La Liga is as much as a joke as is Barcelona FC. I mean what the feck is this hatred for PSG , they triggered a release clause and the player wants to leave, what more is to the story ?
Because he probably didn't push really hard for it, the player has still got a say in the whole thing. If Suarez wanted to absolutely leave them for Arsenal, he would have easily. Probably got afraid of being robbed or something.
, they triggered a release clause and the player wants to leave, what more is to the story ?Because he probably didn't push really hard for it, the player has still got a say in the whole thing. If Suarez wanted to absolutely leave them for Arsenal, he would have easily. Probably got afraid of being robbed or something.
The Sheikh's cousin owns Malaga, they have no problem with Girona.
What are Barca trying to do via the La Liga here? Its not like keeping Neymar would be tenable now especially if its through blatant cheating like this. Eventually they will have to let go of Neymar if he wants to. So are they trying to get even more money from him or is it just a childish reaction of seeing another club taking away their toy? In case of latter, it is well deserved after what they have done to many clubs including Arsenal for Fabregas.
The whole thing is now beyond a joke. We'll have Ronaldo-esque slavery comments from FiFA before too long no doubt I think it is obvious that La Liga are playing the long game here. Europe's premier league with two of European football's crown jewels kicking up a stink is surely aimed at making UEFA reign in the state funded clubs going forward.
La Liga is more valuable as a brand to UEFA than PSG and City after all.
La Liga is more valuable as a brand to UEFA than PSG and City after all.
Seems like this is a scenarios Barca would want to avoid, perhaps they'll accept an "offer" of 222 million instead of the triggering the buyout clause. All of which is dumb imo, La Liga should let this happen and if there is anything fishy its UEFA's job to catch it.
I don't think Barca are forcing La Liga to do anything. Tebas has as much interest in keeping Neymar in the league.
He has TV rights to sell.
He has TV rights to sell.
Barca have started replacing posters of Neymar at Camp Nou so it seems they have accepted he is leaving. I don't see what La Liga are hoping the outcome will be here?
Are you talking about a super league? Because if that's the case national leagues are fecked, it will be done by the UEFA or ECA and without the leagues.
I know the story is nothing new but I do love the image the Guardian has used to headline it of all the available Neymar images:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/03/psg-neymar-buy-out-rejected-la-liga-barcelona
of all the available Neymar images:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/03/psg-neymar-buy-out-rejected-la-liga-barcelona
But I don't see how their long game is legal.
We need some contract lawyers... why aren't there any hanging out on the RedCafe during working hours?!
Yep.
And it's hilarious it's happening to them though. I'm totally against the way the likes of PSG, City and Chelsea are funded, but if something like this has to happen (and it was always going to), I can't think of a bigger bunch of self-entitled cnuts for it to happen to. Well, maybe RM
In any case,we all know how this will end. Neymar will be a PSG player sooner or later.
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