Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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Classical Mechanic said:
I'm enjoying this drama very much. La Liga are being vain and petty here though. They should let the transfer go and then lobby UEFA to reign in City and PSG going forward. Campaign for a prohibition of state sponsorship, cut the snake off at the head.
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Yeah, I'm sure that Real Madrid are going to lobby for that. That means no more bail outs from the Spanish government, plus they'll have to change their shirt sponsor as Emirates is state-owned. Oh, and not to mention that they're receiving 500 million Euros over the coming years from the Abu Dhabi government for naming rights of the redeveloped Santiago Bernabeu.

I think it's fair to say that in your all-consuming desperation to see City taken down a peg or three that you haven't thought this through very well:lol:
 
Hamadovich86 said:
Seems like this is a scenarios Barca would want to avoid, perhaps they'll accept an "offer" of 222 million instead of the triggering the buyout clause. All of which is dumb imo, La Liga should let this happen and if there is anything fishy its UEFA's job to catch it.
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Agreed, this has nothing to do with La Liga!
 
Lemansky said:
I actually think it's great that La Liga is challenging this transfer. The whole deal stinks, and it looks like PSG are trying to bend the rules regarding FFP. For us, who are not state financed it's also good that the authorities in European football is pressured by the Spanish FA in this regard.
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It stinks yes but a contract is a contract, football is not slavery. If the man wants to leave and the release-clause is met as in his contract he should be allowed to leave period.
 
Jim Beam said:
If I were in Barcelona position I would accept a bid. Can't see how is this helpful for them as it will just prolong the transfer with them even having less time to act in the market.

But can't say it isn't all amusing on the other hand.
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Best thing is, they've done all of this shit wrong from the beginning. First the Verratti stuff, then the Neymar thing. If they asked PSG to keep things quiet, etc. that would allow them to buy players first and then sell Neymar. Now what's going to happen is that every club there is knows that they've got the Neymar cash and will milk additional 20/30% of what they would get, perhaps even more if they want to. Dembele, Coutinho, Mbappe, Hazard, whoever the feck they want to buy now, they'll have to pay way over the odds in an already highly inflated market.
 
Yeah nice try there from La Ligas crack legal team. Unfortunately for them they don't get to decide what breach's FFP, that's down to Uefa. And PSG only have to balance the books by the end of the financial year not right after signing a player no matter who it is. So for all we know PSG could sell €200 million worth of players right now (easily) and possibly even end up being in profit instead considering they will spread Neymars contract fees over the course of 5 years.

The dodgy thing is who exactly is paying Neymar the money to enable him to pay his release clause because no way PSG have that amount of cash upfront with out it being supplemented elsewhere. But then that will fall under a dodgy sponsorship deal and nothing directly to do with PSG as technically wouldn't Neymar be a free agent after buying out his contract anyway?

What a fascinating mess. And while Id love Neymar at United, I don't think I could handle if we were involved in something this crazy.
 
Imagine the we were the ones trying to sign him.
The caf would have exploded.
One half saying calm down, the other half JJ off a cliff.
 
I'm not sure La Liga is the right organization to make a stand, but I'm glad someone is doing it. There is no way PSG have enough legitimate revenue to support this deal.
 
Lemansky said:
It's all posturing imo. The transfer will in the end go through, but with more pressure on UEFA to have a closer look on the finances of the transfer.
You could also argue that PSG makes the rules as they go along with FFP.
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K2K said:
That's why I am loving this transfer so much.

It screws over Barca but it also means UEFA will react to the cries of one of their darling clubs subsequently.
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Agree with both. Everybody is pointing at this transfer as the start of City/PSG dominance with even more reckless spending. It will most probably be the start of more strict regulation as not only Barcelona, but many other big clubs will demand it.
 
Is there anything to the "Mundo Deportivo" rumour that Qatar (PSG's owners) have hired Neymar as an ambassador to be the face of the upcoming World Cup, for … wait for it … exactly his buy-out clause, and that he will therefore be able to "buy-out" his own release clause leaving him a free agent and PSG off the hook re. FFP?
 
Lay said:
French league is surely popular in Africa?
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Not so sure about that. In southern Africa we got la liga, epl and some bundesliga. They used too show league 1 but stopped maybe because of ratings. I don't know about the rest of Africa because they speak French In a lot of northern African nations that's said I would would say epl,la liga then league 1 in that order. I could be wrong
 
Raoul said:
Hope Neighmar stays at Barca, if for no other reason than to stuff the Qataris.
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Dont think there's any chance of that.
The only hope is that, FFP is now implemented properly and these dodgy sponsorship deal stop.
 
If there was any ever doubt what FFP was about, this is it. It's the first real test for UEFA to prove it's not just to protect the status quo - the basis of the rejection is laughable, and sums up what FFP is there to do.

The transfer should go through, and PSG should be held accountable should they fail FFP (for the 2nd time).

Javier Tebas said: "Although PSG didn't pay the clause we will denounce them. We advised the PSG president what we were going to do and we saw PSG's policy continue along the same line. They cannot make a number in which their commercial rights are greater than those of Real Madrid and Barcelona. Nobody believes this."
 
Kostur said:
Best thing is, they've done all of this shit wrong from the beginning. First the Verratti stuff, then the Neymar thing. If they asked PSG to keep things quiet, etc. that would allow them to buy players first and then sell Neymar. Now what's going to happen is that every club there is knows that they've got the Neymar cash and will milk additional 20/30% of what they would get, perhaps even more if they want to. Dembele, Coutinho, Mbappe, Hazard, whoever the feck they want to buy now, they'll have to pay way over the odds in an already highly inflated market.
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That's the thing, in retaliation for Veratti Im sure PSG don't give a shit what mess Barcelona are left in afterwards so no real reason for PSG to keep quiet and instead they just steam ahead.

Not sure Barcelona were exactly flush with ready cash at the start of the summer, I don't remember them being linked with anyone of the €50 million+ range seriously until the Neymar story broke so they may not have been able to buy the likes of Coutinho/Dembele e.g. in advance. Just a theory though.
 
Adisa said:
Imagine the we were the ones trying to sign him.
The caf would have exploded.
One half saying calm down, the other half JJ off a cliff.
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I doubt they would try this with a fellow former g-14 club. Remember, FFP was put in place to appease that group in the first place and they agreed to disband. With how lax UEFA has been on FFP and curbing the financial doping of City and PSG is why La Liga is probably taking a stand on behalf of Barcelona. Considering how Real Madrid was built they are probably not the right messengers for this, but the message needed to be sent. The EPL/English FA was never going to do it due to already letting Abramovich and Mansour into their ranks.
The way some of the traditionally great clubs are structured (Bayern, Real, and Barca) they can never compete with teams that have absolutely no interest in running a somewhat balanced budget.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
I've never understood how that worked.

Arsenal activated his release clause, but Liverpool still said no. How did he not end up at Arsenal?
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I seem to remember the story was they only had to consider offers over £40m not accept them. So the clause was nonsense, i'm not sure release clauses can work in England the way they do in Spain.

Release clauses are not a good idea in my opinion anyway, i'm glad United never even entertain putting them in players contracts.
 
stevoc said:
I seem to remember the story was they only had to consider offers over £40m not accept them. So the clause was nonsense, i'm not sure release clauses can work in England the way they do in Spain.

Release clauses are not a good idea in my opinion anyway, i'm glad United never even entertain putting them in players contracts.
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Is it not that it is only enforced if the release price is met AND at least two parties agree? Normally the incoming club and the player.
 
The whole thing is farcical. Football is going to shit. From spending hundreds of millions of a countries oil money on a jumped up little shit, to rejecting a release clause. It's all ridiculous.
 
Just prepping this gif for when things finally get settled
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Kostur said:
Best thing is, they've done all of this shit wrong from the beginning. First the Verratti stuff, then the Neymar thing. If they asked PSG to keep things quiet, etc. that would allow them to buy players first and then sell Neymar. Now what's going to happen is that every club there is knows that they've got the Neymar cash and will milk additional 20/30% of what they would get, perhaps even more if they want to. Dembele, Coutinho, Mbappe, Hazard, whoever the feck they want to buy now, they'll have to pay way over the odds in an already highly inflated market.
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True. Unless they know something at UEFA which we don't know, although that seems highly unlikely. I said that I don't mind all the fuss because if this doesn't make UEFA look closely or force them to make more strict regulations nothing will and that could only benefit United.

But, also, good luck to Barcelona with all that cash in the end. €222 million? They will come to Liverpool and see over €100 million price tag on Coutinho. Same at Dortmund and every other club as you say.
 
JPRouve said:
Are you talking about a super league? Because if that's the case national leagues are fecked, it will be done by the UEFA or ECA and without the leagues.
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A prohibition of state owned clubs sponsoring themselves to gain sporting advantage.

M18CTID said:
Yeah, I'm sure that Real Madrid are going to lobby for that. That means no more bail outs from the Spanish government, plus they'll have to change their shirt sponsor as Emirates is state-owned. Oh, and not to mention that they're receiving 500 million Euros over the coming years from the Abu Dhabi government for naming rights of the redeveloped Santiago Bernabeu.

I think it's fair to say that in your all-consuming desperation to see City taken down a peg or three that you haven't thought this through very well:lol:
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Who said anything about Real? They are already reported as not wanting to support La Liga and Barca in this motion, City too unsurprisingly.

Alas, for you, Barca + La Liga trumps Real Madrid.
 
Raoul said:
Hope Neighmar stays at Barca, if for no other reason than to stuff the Qataris.
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People here love trashing the Quataris and billionaire sugar daddies in general, but this case seems to be the exception where the reaction has been of joy, seemingly.

I dont think La Liga should play the card they seem to be playing. The player wants to go to PSG who are willing to pay the money. It's a fair deal and nothing good can come of denying the player the club he wants and visa versa. The people who should take action who aren't are UEFA. FFP is a complete joke and it's about time the likes of City and PSG are penalised.
 
DannyDee said:
I doubt they would try this with a fellow former g-14 club. Remember, FFP was put in place to appease that group in the first place and they agreed to disband. With how lax UEFA has been on FFP and curbing the financial doping of City and PSG is why La Liga is probably taking a stand on behalf of Barcelona. Considering how Real Madrid was built they are probably not the right messengers for this, but the message needed to be sent. The EPL/English FA was never going to do it due to already letting Abramovich and Mansour into their ranks.
The way some of the traditionally great clubs are structured (Bayern, Real, and Barca) they can never compete with teams that have absolutely no interest in running a somewhat balanced budget.
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Would be funny if the likes of atletico get sold to a oil owners
 
Classical Mechanic said:
A prohibition of state owned clubs sponsoring themselves to gain sporting advantage.
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I agree with that but in that case La Liga can get stuffed because they have been perfectly happy with Malaga or Girona.
 
Sneaky suspicion that la Liga and to be specific Real Madrid want the Neymar transfer dragged along for as long as possible. Am pretty sure La Liga will accept the bid as soon as Mbappe to Madrid is finalized. Madrid doesn't want Barca to use the Neymar money to Gazump Mbappe.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
People here love trashing the Quataris and billionaire sugar daddies in general, but this case seems to be the exception where the reaction has been of joy, seemingly.

I dont think La Liga should play the card they seem to be playing. The player wants to go to PSG who are willing to pay the money. It's a fair deal and nothing good can come of denying the player the club he wants and visa versa. The people who should take action who aren't are UEFA. FFP is a complete joke and it's about time the likes of City and PSG are penalised.
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Its not particularly fair when you consider that this will only hyper-inflate transfer prices going forward. It was bad enough that post Pogba, many clubs are suddenly being held to ransom for players this summer, and it will be even worse next year to where the gulf between the haves (Oligarchs and Oil Sheikhs) and the have nots (normal clubs who actually earn their money from football) will widen significantly as the financial arms race to artificially buy success entrenches. This is literally the worst thing that could happen in football and needs to be blocked and called out at every opportunity.
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
Is there anything to the "Mundo Deportivo" rumour that Qatar (PSG's owners) have hired Neymar as an ambassador to be the face of the upcoming World Cup, for … wait for it … exactly his buy-out clause, and that he will therefore be able to "buy-out" his own release clause leaving him a free agent and PSG off the hook re. FFP?
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If that was the case they would have to pay him a hell of a lot more than that as it would be income which is taxable.
 
Raoul said:
Its not particularly fair when you consider that this will only hyper-inflate transfer prices going forward. It was bad enough that post Pogba, many clubs are suddenly being held to ransom for players this summer, and it will be even worse next year to where the gulf between the haves (Oligarchs and Oil Sheikhs) and the have nots (normal clubs who actually earn their money from football) will widen significantly as the financial arms race to artificially buy success entrenches. This is literally the worst thing that could happen in football and needs to be blocked and called out at every opportunity.
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100% this
 
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