Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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I find it disgusting. He has a release clause, it's none of their business whether PSG can afford it or not. They cannot just reject a team paying release clause that's in the contract.

We could act as an intermediary here, couldn't we? We can afford his release clause and then PSG buy him from us for 10% extra.
 
Sneaky suspicion that la Liga and to be specific Real Madrid want the Neymar transfer dragged along for as long as possible. Am pretty sure La Liga will accept the bid as soon as Mbappe to Madrid is finalized. Madrid doesn't want Barca to use the Neymar money to Gazump Mbappe.

Had that thought for a little but it doesn't make sense.

Barcelona has as much influence in La Liga as Real. Also, they could just accept the bid and be over with it.
 
We are all laughing now at Barca, but if this goes through it means that oil clubs can do what they want without any ramifications.

City/PSG can get sponsorship deals 5 times worth United's and it will all be accepted. They can hoover up all talent, buy a club in every country (city smartly already doing this), loan/buy players out to these clubs. They can spend £500m every season until they get it right. This is not good news although pretty funny.
 
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I find it disgusting. He has a release clause, it's none of their business whether PSG can afford it or not. They cannot just reject a team paying release clause that's in the contract.

We could act as an intermediary here, couldn't we? We can afford his release clause and then PSG buy him from us for 10% extra.


Yeah, let's stage a John Obi Mikel MkII on this one.
 
I find it disgusting. He has a release clause, it's none of their business whether PSG can afford it or not. They cannot just reject a team paying release clause that's in the contract.

We could act as an intermediary here, couldn't we? We can afford his release clause and then PSG buy him from us for 10% extra.
Apparently they can. :lol:

You talk as if you know what the release clause is and how it works. Clearly that's not true.
 
We are all laughing now at Barca, but if this goes through it means that oil clubs can do what they want without any ramifications.

City/PSG can get sponsorship deals 5 times worth United's and it will all be accepted. They can hoover up all talent, buy a club in every country (city smartly already doing this), loan/buy players out to these clubs. They can spend £500m every season until they get it right. This is not good news although pretty funny.

Spot on. Action needs to be taken immediately at the FIFA/UEFA level to put a sledgehammer to all of this before it spirals out of control.
 
I find it disgusting. He has a release clause, it's none of their business whether PSG can afford it or not. They cannot just reject a team paying release clause that's in the contract.

We could act as an intermediary here, couldn't we? We can afford his release clause and then PSG buy him from us for 10% extra.
I find it more disgusting that a group is willing to pay Neymar 222m to supposedly promote the world cup (But really just the buy-out) brand while using borderline slavery to build the stadiums for said World Cup.
 
I wonder if they would have rejected it if it was us who were buying him? We're the only club who could afford to pay it without using oil money, so presumably Barcelona wouldn't have a problem with that...

Would have been interesting to find out I guess.
 
We are all laughing now at Barca, but if this goes through it means that oil clubs can do what they want without any ramifications.

City/PSG can get sponsorship deals 5 times worth United's and it will all be accepted. They can hoover up all talent, buy a club in every country (city smartly already doing this), loan/buy players out to these clubs. They can spend £500m every season until they get it right. This is not good news although pretty funny.

And if it doesn't go through it means that players contracts aren't protected by the league and there is two sets of rules, one for Barcelona and an other one for Real Sociedad.
 
A prohibition of state owned clubs sponsoring themselves to gain sporting advantage.



Who said anything about Real? They are already reported as not wanting to support La Liga and Barca in this motion, City too unsurprisingly.

Alas, for you, Barca + La Liga trumps Real Madrid.

I'd hazard a wild guess that Real Madrid have enough influence in the world of football for it not to happen. Instead of wishing for things that are highly unlikely ever to happen, why don't you take a step back, stop skriking, and enjoy watching this drama unfold?
 
Spot on. Action needs to be taken immediately at the FIFA/UEFA level to put a sledgehammer to all of this before it spirals out of control.
Agreed. La Liga and Barca are far from the perfect messengers, but someone had to step up. I hope the rest of the old G-14 and eventually 18 (although PSG was a part of this prior to Qatari ownership) stand in solidarity and challenge UEFA to act in the name of FFP. It is in all of our long-term interests.
 
Could be an attempt to overthrow the legal requirement in spain for release clauses in player contracts altogether.
 
I agree with that but in that case La Liga can get stuffed because they have been perfectly happy with Malaga or Girona.

They are all pragmatic in these situation, now the situation is damaging their brand so they see things differently. We know that Juventus are on side with them, if they can get some more big names they will have significant influence.
 
And if it doesn't go through it means that players contracts aren't protected by the league and there is two sets of rules, one for Barcelona and an other one for Real Sociedad.
Think the latter would be the lesser of two evils tbh. Allowing PSG and City to casually spend hundreds of millions of pounds of oil money will feck over everyone else.
 
And if it doesn't go through it means that players contracts aren't protected by the league and there is two sets of rules, one for Barcelona and an other one for Real Sociedad.
No other transfer that involved a player buying out his contract has included such an absurd amount of money that it could be challenged this way.
 
I agree with those saying we need tighter restrictions to stifle the oil clubs, but it's too late for this particular transfer. It's something to be done for the future, but as of right now the Neymar deal must be allowed to proceed.
 
And if it doesn't go through it means that players contracts aren't protected by the league and there is two sets of rules, one for Barcelona and an other one for Real Sociedad.
Fair point, but this is why UEFA/FIFA need to step up like @Raoul said. La Liga, it seems don't have legal grounds to take a stand.
 
We are all laughing now at Barca, but if this goes through it means that oil clubs can do what they want without any ramifications.

City/PSG can get sponsorship deals 5 times worth United's and it will all be accepted. They can hoover up all talent, buy a club in every country (city smartly already doing this), loan/buy players out to these clubs. They can spend £500m every season until they get it right. This is not good news although pretty funny.
These are my thoughts too. Even if UEFA look at it retrospectively and decide FFP has been breached, the damage has been done -- PSG still get to employ Neymar. In fact, if PSG think there's a chance they'll be punished with (for example) a transfer ban, why not just buy all the players now and take a couple of years out of the transfer market. Doesn't make much odds to them really.

I think that all that's really happening here is that La Liga are putting the ball very directly in UEFA's court. It'll force UEFA to sanction the deal, and if they later have to take PSG to task over FFP they'll look more than a bit silly.
 
Agreed. La Liga and Barca are far from the perfect messengers, but someone had to step up. I hope the rest of the old G-14 and eventually 18 (although PSG was a part of this prior to Qatari ownership) stand in solidarity and challenge UEFA to act in the name of FFP. It is in all of our long-term interests.

Best way to do this would be to put a FIFA wide cap on transfer fees or create an arbitration committee that will be assigned when clubs attempt to extort ridiculous fees for players who clearly aren't worth that much.
 

what happens now is Barcelona will tell Tebas to stop acting like a child and give them the money. Or just accept an offer themselves

Otherwise, neymars will sue, get a temporary license from FIFA(which they will get 100%) while the case goes to spanish court. Neymar still gets to play with PSG, while barcelona gets nothing
 
We could act as an intermediary here, couldn't we? We can afford his release clause and then PSG buy him from us for 10% extra.

A nose for business. Woodward would like this post. :D

Even better, we could afford him and then since any such agreement made before would be non-binding charge them 50% extra.
 
Apparently they can. :lol:

You talk as if you know what the release clause is and how it works. Clearly that's not true.
Neymar and PSG will easily win this in court. They explicitly changed the rules last summer to allow clubs to pay release clauses on player's behalf (most La Liga clubs are in debt that they cannot pay) but now that this harms their darling, they decided to go against the rules.

FFP are enforced by UEFA, not by La Liga. It isn't their business if PSG is within FFP or not.

Though on the other side, if it goes to some court on Spain, Barca will win. I mean, that court in Spain decided to destroy blood samples cause it might have hurt famous Spanish sportsman. If it goes in Court of Arbitration for Sport or whatever is called, Neymar will easily win.
 
Sneaky suspicion that la Liga and to be specific Real Madrid want the Neymar transfer dragged along for as long as possible. Am pretty sure La Liga will accept the bid as soon as Mbappe to Madrid is finalized. Madrid doesn't want Barca to use the Neymar money to Gazump Mbappe.
If I was The French FA I would release Mbappe's registration until Spain releases Neymar's
 
Its not particularly fair when you consider that this will only hyper-inflate transfer prices going forward. It was bad enough that post Pogba, many clubs are suddenly being held to ransom for players this summer, and it will be even worse next year to where the gulf between the haves (Oligarchs and Oil Sheikhs) and the have nots (normal clubs who actually earn their money from football) will widen significantly as the financial arms race to artificially buy success entrenches. This is literally the worst thing that could happen in football and needs to be blocked and called out at every opportunity.

Players and their advisers themselves will start to become wiser. Can't see many good players at the middling clubs signing long term contracts if they have bigger ambitions. 2-3 year deals max to leave them an easy out.
 
May still be held illegal if it goes to court.
Maybe, maybe not. I imagine La Liga know what they are doing.
Neymar and PSG will easily win this in court. They explicitly changed the rules last summer to allow clubs to pay release clauses on player's behalf (most La Liga clubs are in debt that they cannot pay) but now that this harms their darling, they decided to go against the rules.

FFP are enforced by UEFA, not by La Liga. It isn't their business if PSG is within FFP or not.
Apparently Spanish clubs can do that, not all clubs.

And don't forget, if Barcelona wanted to, they could just accept the offer. They don't have to go through the release clause.
 
Its not particularly fair when you consider that this will only hyper-inflate transfer prices going forward. It was bad enough that post Pogba, many clubs are suddenly being held to ransom for players this summer, and it will be even worse next year to where the gulf between the haves (Oligarchs and Oil Sheikhs) and the have nots (normal clubs who actually earn their money from football) will widen significantly as the financial arms race to artificially buy success entrenches. This is literally the worst thing that could happen in football and needs to be blocked and called out at every opportunity.
Absolutely, I agree. It's a joke that all these external funds can be pumped into a random club like PSG. Same with what happened with City.

I do think it's not La Liga's stand take though. I mean, Neymar being forced to stay would only create more issues. It's UEFA and FIFA that need to act in general rather than in relation to one transaction.

I genuinely do believe the authorities need to take control of the whole situation. As a United fan this transfer is something that doesn't impact me. But the whole free-market thing is clearly skewing the market completely and controls need to be put in place. FFP was a step in the right direction, or thereabouts. Spending needs to be linked with revenue simply to create a balance between performances and resources.
 
A lot people saying lessons will be learned in that clubs will put even higher release clauses in players' contracts, but personally I think it will make players more wary of having outrageous clauses.
Bale and Ronaldo have clauses worth 1 billion euros. Barca should have done the same for Neymar.
 
Agreed. La Liga and Barca are far from the perfect messengers, but someone had to step up. I hope the rest of the old G-14 and eventually 18 (although PSG was a part of this prior to Qatari ownership) stand in solidarity and challenge UEFA to act in the name of FFP. It is in all of our long-term interests.
Financial fair play is enforced in retrospect, not advance. It simply wouldnt make sense to tell rich clubs with huge value in saleable assets that they cant afford to buy an expensive player. Theyre quite capable of balancing the books in theory.
 
Bale and Ronaldo have clauses worth 1 billion euros. Barca should have done the same for Neymar.

Probably he would have asked Messi level wages or slightly less for such a high clause.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I imagine La Liga know what they are doing.

Apparently Spanish clubs can do that, not all clubs.

And don't forget, if Barcelona wanted to, they could just accept the offer. They don't have to go through the release clause.
That was the case up to last year, with United and Bayern needing to find workaround solutions for Herrera and Martinez. Last year, La Liga changed the rules to make it straightforward and both Spanish and foreign clubs can just pay the clause.

Their excuse seems to be cause they don't believe that PSG can pay the clause and still be within FFP. Which is not their business (it is UEFA's).
 
Neymar and PSG will easily win this in court. They explicitly changed the rules last summer to allow clubs to pay release clauses on player's behalf (most La Liga clubs are in debt that they cannot pay) but now that this harms their darling, they decided to go against the rules.

FFP are enforced by UEFA, not by La Liga. It isn't their business if PSG is within FFP or not.

Though on the other side, if it goes to some court on Spain, Barca will win. I mean, that court in Spain decided to destroy blood samples cause it might have hurt famous Spanish sportsman. If it goes in Court of Arbitration for Sport or whatever is called, Neymar will easily win.
It puts massive pressure on UEFA to act, and it depends on who else may be supporting Barca and La Liga in the background. This may be the line in the sand from the historically great clubs who are independently wealthy and don't need sugar daddies to challenge UEFA on this. They are already annoyed about the Qatari World Cup breaking up their season in 2022, and FFP was a response to appease the old g-14.
 
We are all laughing now at Barca, but if this goes through it means that oil clubs can do what they want without any ramifications.

City/PSG can get sponsorship deals 5 times worth United's and it will all be accepted. They can hoover up all talent, buy a club in every country (city smartly already doing this), loan/buy players out to these clubs. They can spend £500m every season until they get it right. This is not good news although pretty funny.

Agreed - even if this does go through, UEFA and the leagues will surely get together and come up with a solution to stop this. What is ridiculous though is that Citeh and PSG (to a lesser extent) have been doing this for years - their expenditures have vastly outweighed any 'real' incomes for a decade and the footballing world has turned a blind eye! Now that it happens to the precious Barca, La Liga have are now kicking up a fuss.
 
Bale and Ronaldo have clauses worth 1 billion euros. Barca should have done the same for Neymar.
Especially when they already fully knew that Neymar and Co are money grabbing leeches. Such a poor show on their part.
 
Was only asking if anyone here had any knowledge about the rumour. Agree with what you say but it would certainly go a long way towards making the deal viable re. FFP though.

It would and I'm not saying that it hasn't/wont happen just that the money they pay will be considerably more than the Buy Out.

At the end of the day they can afford to do this even if it cost them more. Then as you said PSG would be signing a free agent so would not have to worry about FFP.

Just thinking IF the promotional work was carried out in Qatar would they be the ones he paid the tax to so they could recoup the extra money?

I haven't heard anything but it would throw the football world into chaos if this happened.
 
I think that all that's really happening here is that La Liga are putting the ball very directly in UEFA's court. It'll force UEFA to sanction the deal, and if they later have to take PSG to task over FFP they'll look more than a bit silly.
No they won't, it's PSG who will look silly.
 
It puts massive pressure on UEFA to act, and it depends on who else may be supporting Barca and La Liga in the background. This may be the line in the sand from the historically great clubs who are independently wealthy and don't need sugar daddies to challenge UEFA on this. They are already annoyed about the Qatari World Cup breaking up their season in 2022, and FFP was a response to appease the old g-14.
Thing is, PSG will be totally fine cause on financial sheets, the transfer is divided per number of years on his contract. So, for this year, it will be just 40m or so (assuming that he signs a 5 year contract). If PSG sells Di Maria and Lucas for example, their net spent would be the same as that of United and lower than City's.

And well, UEFA might eventually look at it, but PSG have been fine since their ban 3 years ago, and UEFA looks always for the last 3 years. Barca and La Liga have no possibility of blocking this, they are just being usual twats.
 
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