I'm hearing some crazy stuff about the financial details of a deal, involving Neymar paying his own release clause to bypass FFP.
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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Put him in our team, hell be a disappointment.
On what basis do you make that assertion?
I would love if we tested that theory.
I don't personally think nationality has any bearing on when a player's career will peak or peter but there is definitely a prevailing thought that they do.
I just thought of something if they sell Neymar wouldn't it make the most sense going after Mbappe as a replacement?
It is wrong.
We're in agreement.
I was thinking about it and it kind of make little sense even today, you just have to look at Pepe, Rafinha, Dani Alves, fernandinho, Thiago Silva or Thiago Motta they are all in their 30s and going strong. And I remember plenty of other brazilians playing for the best clubs in their 30s.
Surely Barca saying he's not for sale is irrelevant if they meet his buy out clause or am I missing something, I've not read most of the thread.
Why would selling a wide forward and replacing him with a far inferior striker, make sense? They'd be better off signing Dembele, who can offer what Neymar does (without the goals). Not to add he'll be far cheaper as well, allowing them to use the remaining money to fix the other areas of the squad.
There is the stereotype of the Brazilian party boys but the pious evangelists are at least as common and represent a healthier lifestyle. Some PSG players from Brazil have held religious office at the club.
This is such a fecking ridiculous transfer if it goes through. These sugar daddy clubs need to be held accountable for this shit eventually. I'm a huge fan of Neymar, he's probably my favourite player to watch but 220m for one fecking player, ridiculous.
If Barcelona got Dembele and Mbappe for that money, they'd arguably be better off.
Mbappe can play the wide forward well. He even often drifts out wide and he would provide more end product than Dembele.
He's 18! Making assumptions like that is pure speculation. He may or he may not. There have been many great talents who withered away when the pressure of playing at a bigger club becomes a factor.
Dembele is really young too.
They seem to be eying Coutinho as a replacement for Neymar.
Yeah, but people accept that he will be inconsistent. With Mbappe, it seems like people see it as conclusive that he will score bags of goals.
And Henderson as the final cog in the wheel; the long awaited Xavi replacement.
They would both be risks I think Mbappe is the better bet.
How much has his salary increased by over the course of this thread. £250m over a standard 5 year contract would be £1m a week?
You want him that badly.
Euros. I'm not saying I want him at that price. Those are the reported figures from French journalists.
We broke the transfer record last year, and this year we spent 75 million on a good PL striker. There isn't any moral high ground to be had here vs us and the sugar daddy clubs.
Of course football transfer fees don't make sense, and you can probably go insane trying to figure them out. If you look at it purely through the scope of football though, if there's one player who is worth that kind of money it is Neymar. He is the 3rd best player in the world, and will be #1 when Ronnie and Messi drop off, and he is just about to start entering his peak years. Whoever has him for the next few years will have the best player in the world. If that is the fee that it takes to sign him then so be it, obviously Barca would never part with him except for an obscene fee, which they seem to be getting.
At 500m? That would be a massive gamble
Difference being that is money we ourselves earnt. This fee being more than double the world record fee, being paid upfront (unlike us in installments), with money that they didn't even make themselves, just doesn't sit right with me at all.
Also I don't agree with the prices we paid for Pogba and Lukaku, but it's a completely different scenario to PSG and Neymar as I mentioned.
What does it matter if we earnt the money? Your original issue seemed to be the amount they are rumoured to be paying. If you're now saying it's because they have a sugar daddy then by that logic any player they sign is wrong, at whatever price, because they didn't earn it themselves. And City. And Chelsea.
They could feasibly buy both, that means Messi in a CAM role, which was bound to happen eventually and you are right.... They would be a better team.
So Many thoughts about this so this won't be entirely coherent.
First of all the Saudis fecking hell! 200m??? I've always been sceptical of men in dresses.
Why is Neymar joining a team of losers? Did he not see it first hand in that disgusting capitulation?
I suppose 200m can buy a new mentality. If it goes through, I think PSG as a team have finally elevated themselves. At his best imo only Messi is better and this team will be built around him.
I don't think he's going there 'on holiday ' I think he is out to show he's the best player in the world. It's not a money thing only I believe, I mean he earns a lot as it is at Barcelona. He wants the perfect platform to showcase his talent with everything going through him.
If they sell and it doesn't seem they have a choice, Barcelona will regret it, Neymar has at least 7 years at the top imo. They will not be buying anyone better.
So this leaves Madrid as the only club in football where a player does not force a move out?
First of all the Saudis fecking hell! 200m??? I've always been sceptical of men in dresses.
Why is Neymar joining a team of losers? Did he not see it first hand in that disgusting capitulation?
I suppose 200m can buy a new mentality. If it goes through, I think PSG as a team have finally elevated themselves. At his best imo only Messi is better and this team will be built around him.
I don't think he's going there 'on holiday ' I think he is out to show he's the best player in the world. It's not a money thing only I believe, I mean he earns a lot as it is at Barcelona. He wants the perfect platform to showcase his talent with everything going through him.
If they sell and it doesn't seem they have a choice, Barcelona will regret it, Neymar has at least 7 years at the top imo. They will not be buying anyone better.
So this leaves Madrid as the only club in football where a player does not force a move out?
Wow, you managed to be wrong, racist and sexist in the same two sentence paragraph. New record!
You'd have to be pretty selective with the definitions and timeframes to call it money earnt. Go far back enough in time and at some point everyone benefitted from some outside investment or other factor that launched them to another level. Real had someone like Franco and their government giving a helping hand. This snobbiness about new money really comes across as nothing more than irrational jealousy. If anything, it's good that we have those sugar daddies creating a more diverse footballing landscape. Who on earth would want another decade of Barcelona hogging the best best players in the world?
This would be so stupid if it works.
IIRC Our deal with Herrera was similar. We gave the money to Herrea, and he paid the release clause and I'd think that the expenditure was still counted.
Hope we throw our hat in but this might just be a little bit too much of a crazy deal.
I mentioned sugar daddy clubs specifically in my post. I also said I don't agree with clubs like us (who don't have a sugar daddy) spending that kind of money. What people are failing to understand is, this transfer fee is more than double the record (a fee which is already stupid), it's being paid in full, rather than in installments and it's not even being funded by the club making the purchase. Yet they will have no repercussions for the transfer, that's my issue.
That's fine, normally I wouldn't give a feck, but this is ridiculous. All the top clubs want to be competing for the World's best players, not all the World's top clubs can afford to be paying these ridiculous prices being set by the sugar daddy clubs, though.
These prices aren't normal and imo in the long run aren't sustainable. With prices like this it just makes closing the gap even more difficult.
How am I being racist or sexist for that matter? I guarantee the deal is being sanctioned by a man in dress, what they call it is their own term for it.
But Ligue 1 does have pull with South Americans?
If he leaves, I would certainly expect him to play in the PL at some point.
This will come down to money. If PSG are determined, there owners certainly have the resources.
I do wonder at the quoted prices of even United and City would baulk at the numbers.
Barca leaving it up to Neymar if he wants to leave or not.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ne...eet-e220million-release-clause-180339099.html
Gutting to think this one might even be out of our reach.
We know Woody is not afraid to throw down money, but this is serious, serious money.
About 500m euros over five years.
Gutting to think this one might even be out of our reach.
We know Woody is not afraid to throw down money, but this is serious, serious money.
About 500m euros over five years.
This is a step down for Neymar righ
The whole time they've been here? They've consistently been amongst the best midfielders in the league since joining. In fact most small, technical players from other leagues flourish here. Hazard and Mahrez recently won POTY so I dont know why the PL still has this reputation.
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