He's not a number 9.
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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105 goals/54 assists in 186 games for Barca and 52 goals in 77 for Brazil. Those are just monster numbers if you exclude Messi/Ronaldo.
How are they third tier? They were 2nd in the Delloite Money league right behind United, Barcelona are a financial powerhouse.
My fault I wasn't specific enough. I don't care what number he has on his back. I'm just talking about us no longer needing a striker.
Nope, Barcelona's chairman said there's no way Neymar's leaving.
Seriously, why are people insane about football? How could any entity contemplate spending 220 million on any player, let alone a bespoke World Cup Willie lookalike?
Not chairman but a board VP did claim it wasn't happening. Of course, ultimately it translates to nothing to refute the rumor. Every transfer has denials preceding them
IF what you were saying rang true, Barca wouldn't entertain his antics, constantly renew his contracts or do all the under-the table stuff they have done, and clubs wouldn't be ready to pounce if he ever indicated he wants out of his current situation.
If we say Messi is untransferable, Neymar is legitimately the most coveted and expensive transfer there is in world football. I don't think anyone else gets close to the fee he would command.
Me too. I also raise my eyebrow at people thinking you get '10yrs' out of Neymar given the only Brazilians I can recall playing like beasts, with the same enthusiasm they always had, into their mid 30's are R.Carlos, Cafu and Rivaldo.
Neymar's ability on the pitch is far removed from anything currently in the PL, but at the same time, his lifestyle and penchant for doing what he wants would only amplify at a club where he was the undisputed top dog. Having Messi, a superior player, over him like a shadow at Barca probably keeps him in check.
I don't think he'd settle in Manchester, either.
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In the case of this transfer, there wouldn't be a deal between clubs. PSG just needs a cheque for the buyout clause stipulated in his contract to be given to the Spanish league office and he's free.
Release clause? Not much Barca can do if they match the clause and he agrees to move right??
It's truly amazing what a bargain Pogba looks just a season later. I knew things were getting mental money wise, but THIS mental?
Been said many times before, not how release clauses work in Spain
That is exactly how they work. If PSG shows up at the LFP office and give them a check worth €222M on neymar's behalf, neymar's contract with barcelona i terminated and the player is free to sign with PSG
Never happens this way, there's always some negotiation about the fee, how it is paid, taxes etc. - never as simple as drop a check off, except within Spain
There is a way and thats if PSG pay the buy out clause. So he'd be wishful in his thinking
Didn't we have something similar with Herrera and there was an argument wither it was 30m + VAT or the player had to pay the money to release the contract not another club, it wasn't just as easy as throwing cheques around
That is no longer an issue, following a change in the law in 2016.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ci...-could-make-buying-liga-manchester-united/amp
It's that simple, that's how it works but in the past it was cheaper to accept a transfer because the payment of the clause by a third part was considered like a remuneration which isn't the case anymore.
And yet, it never works like that
Hes not a striker though, plays Martials position
I don't think we can afford it after seeing the numbers being quoted (fees plus wages).
It does work like that. But in general players don't trigger the clause, clubs choose to negotiate a transfer that matches it.
A loan? Then you pay that back in installments.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of people who think United wouldn't be in for him if he gave any indication he would move. He's Woodward's wettest dream and a marketing juggernaut who brings a lot with him in terms of everything Woodward/the club covet.
So not just a question of dropping off a check then
It is just a question of dropping off a check, the problem is that it's one check, no installments.
I agree on that part about we would definately love to sign him. We have also cleared a massive part of the wage bill. 500m is a big outlay though
Maybe we are too late anyway. Seems like PSG have him convinced. Maybe we lost the battle and are keeping quiet. Who knows
Thats part of the reason the league is poor though isn't it?
Most promising players are bought by clubs in other leagues after a good season or two.
I don't see Neymar being worth this kind of money.
Neymar isn't worth that kind of money imo.
He is one heck of a player though and I understand why a club would pay that money.
He is one heck of a player though and I understand why a club would pay that money.
neymar is no #9/striker.
I've been trying to figure this exchange back & forth out, definitely has the feel of altered state of mind
top 3 if not 2 in the world, only 25.
if Kyle Walker goes for £50M, Lukaku for £90M (with add-ons), and Mbappe gets quoted £150M after half a decent season, i don't think it's too unreasonable to be honest
It is precisely like that. That's how Bayern did it with Javi Martinez, that's how united did it with herrera, etc. Negotiations happen simply because clubs prefer to negotiate, not because they have to. It used to be more complex, because technically it's the player who has to pay the sum, so if the club gives the player £30M, that money registers as income for the player, and thus the player would have to pay taxes on it. But the LFP has since changed the ruling so that clubs can pay the buyout clause on behalf of the player, so there's no extra taxes to be paid, only the normal ones(VAT, i guess)
Neymar hasn't been top 3 in the world for a while now.
Suarez / Griezmann and even Lewandowski have all surpassed him over the last few seasons imo. I'd even have Hazard up there over the last 12 months.
Modric as well if we're going with non attackers.
Its like people get caught in a bubble when discussing Neymar.
Suarez / Griezmann and even Lewandowski have all surpassed him over the last few seasons imo. I'd even have Hazard up there over the last 12 months.
Modric as well if we're going with non attackers.
Its like people get caught in a bubble when discussing Neymar.
It's actually the opposite as you're clearly down on the player. He didn't have the best of seasons, but there's no question he is a superior talent to everyone else not named Messi or Ronaldo. Combined with his age and marketing profile, there's no way any player not named Messi could conceivably be worth more.
Just as his reputation has been built up over seasons, it would take more than one out in the wilderness to lower it.
Neymar isn't a striker?
I know the definition of what is and isn't a striker may be variable between people, and in his case, the presence of other players at Barca means that he doesn't play in a traditional central position like old-fashioned number 9's do, but am I the only one who thinks the sentence 'Neymar is no striker' seems a bit off.
He banked a lot of those number in a short period of time during prime MSN periods. Those numbers aren't really the numbers I'm talking about. PSG aren't buying the 23 year old who briefly rose above Ronaldo in the best innthe world discussion.
It's the recent numbers, it's the last two seasons when he's tried and failed to be the difference maker when Messi has faltered. Neymar simply hasn't stepped up and Messi at 30 still has the entire club on his back.
Neymar should be improving year on year but instead he's In his mid twenties trying to recapture his form from 2 years ago. That doesn't scream ready to take over from Messi for me.
Barça are the poorest of the top clubs out there. They're a financial mess.
It's been two seasons at this stage.
The elite of the elite has very fine margins. He can't just snap his fingers and still be considered as good as the world class players that are performing significantly better than Neymar has in quite a while.
You earn being in the top 5 player list. It's striking to me that his marketability has been brought up more than his actual ability on here.
It's not happening, they just want something to write about!
Can't see PSG backing out of this... Would be a massive loss of face and they care much more about that than money
It's not how it went down with Javi, they had to nearly smuggle him out at night
"This was without question a complicated transfer," said Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge after Martínez signed a five-year deal
Neither with Herrera, even characterized as a farce of a pursuit & transfer for a whole host of issues
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