Wow
I'll admit I got worked up and let my frustration out with that post earlier but I won't apologise. If you're not angry, pessimistic and cynical about the way this club operates these days then you haven't been paying attention for the last nine years. The gall of them to bring Rangnick in as a 'consultant' and not listen to his advice about the new manager.
I totally agree. Our issue is not how much we spend, but who we spend it on
, they watch their side every week and know exactly how things have been this season.We've got some proper weird fans
Just because they got pep and he has been successful in the league, doesn't mean that their next manager can only be bald and a Lego pep. Before pep they had Mancini and pellegrini. I don't know what basis you are saying that city will never go for poch. Especially when poch is only second behind pep in terms of possessions based football. The type of football pep plays and also if you remember their encounter last season, poch outplayed pep in that regard and forced pep to play counter attack football with Ederson quarterback pass that helped decide the faith of the game
No one says he will hit the ground running. In fact they're saying no manager will do that.
It’s so hard to understand because it’s utter bollocks. Ronaldo was signed because merely 3 months after fans got a game called off the board were fecking terrified of him going to city. One look at the utter meltdown online could see why this was the case. It was widely reported and very obvious at the time. If it was a “commercial” signing we would have wanted him before he was off to City. We didn’t. Did the club spend 80m on Maguire and 50m on AWB for commercial reasons? Incredibly marketable footballers. And Dan James aka the Welsh Neymar of course. Donny for 40m just screams sponsors. Fred the Brazilian dazzler for 50m - he’ll rake in the clicks. The truth is simple - we’ve gone from manager to manager each with their own style giving them carte blanch on signings - ending up with a total supermarket sweep of a squad. We need to develop an identity of how we want to play, hire a manager who fits that and sign players to fit that profile. If that manager leaves we then hire another manager who fits the identity directed by the footballing structure who remain at the club. It’s basic stuff. Nothing to do with “not wanting to win because it costs too much” and everything to do with being competent with the money we spend and managers we hire.
The truth is both are a gamble and both could pay off. Ten Hag could be too rigid to a system to work for us and Pochettino could be too much of a bottler to work for us, it's hard to tell but they both deserve support and backing
I don't think they're spoiled either but no doubt some people will think they are. As someone said previously the PSG job is actually the perfect indicator of how he would do at United. Both squads are full of precious fragile egos on extortionate contracts but PSG have a more talented squad than we do. So if he can't do well there then it's not a great sign he'd be able to do well here either.Oh I'm not calling them spoiled
The unhappiness even while sitting atop the league is understandable given the type of talent they have, they shouldn't be serving up the type of performances that they have been too often this season.
It got to a point where they were even booing the likes of Messi and Neymar even though they're still terrific players and prove that for their national sides every break. Just been a reflection of their performances as a team this season, their fans just expected better football with the all star team they have.
They shouldn't have to rely on brilliance from Mbappe to carry them as much as they do with that level of squad.
I don't think they'll go for Poch not because he's not bald but because i think they have an agreement with Enrique to potentially take over if Pep walks next summer. Saying quote me might have been a bit strong but i do think Enrique will be the next City manager. Either that or Pep decides to continue for a few more years then i've got no idea who they'd appoint since a lot can change in football and new candidates might come up.
Its pretty clear that you're okay with mediocrity. You're okay with regular top 4 finishes - something Poch achieved for Spurs(something they could only dream of). You are happy with Utd making a SF once in a while because apparently that's a great feat. You're okay with appointing a manager that couldn't take his team to the next level which was actually winning things. You're okay with appointing a manager who isn't wanted by his current employers and who is an expert in bottling big games.
. Obviously you dont care about the pragmatic not so attractive football Poch serves and obviously you dont care about winning any trophies, same as Poch who said that it is only for feeding egos.Its amusing that this is so hard for some people to understand.
You don't have to apologize. You don't have to join the top red bandwagon.
A lot of people seem to have bought into the clubs recent mindset of always going for the comfortable and familiar option (PL proven/pragmatic/established/United DNA etc), as we have for the better half of a decade, rather than taking a genuine punt at something different.
Then the whole nonsensical advantage of his "PL experience" that our ex players love to harp on about counts for nothing then, especially if he's afforded the same patience as Ten Hag. What good is his supposedly biggest advantage over Ten Hag if we're expecting him to take just as long to get up and running for potentially lesser rewards?
I think its best explained by what @JPRouve eluded to in a post some time ago. IE the fact that Poch can have some comfort for supporters or advocates in that we know for sure he has a high floor in the Premier League.
The trouble is we've gone down the risk averse approach with Mourinho and LVG - old timers with impeccable CVs and a history of winning. It's done nothing for us in the grand scheme of things. I fear Poch will be more of the same - a manager of yesteryear who is seemingly a low risk appointment but one that ultimately does nothing for us in terms of ambition.
Thats unfounded to be fair.
No. He belongs at Atletico and that's where he should stay.
People just need to look at Klopp. That’s it, there wasn’t a great structure before him. Adman wrote a great post on exactly that.
I knew you’d bring this up finally. You sure do love mentioning things in a vacuum. Poch had been building that squad for a while and that was when they were probably at the peak of their powers and Pep had just inherited his side. They lost and drew quite a bit that season. I mean the following season after Pep had time to mould his team they took Spurs to the cleaners.
What was it?