Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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I'm hopeful there's a big update today considering Kerry Hau and Patrick Berger made this interview Monday and are keeping it on hold until tomorrow. Must be a reason they've been told to hold it?

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Not a dig at Ten Hag as he is my first choice, but I do understand people with some reservations for managers coming from Eredivisie.
I was really surprised to read that Jol's Ajax scored 106 league goals and ended the season with +86 goal difference, and he didn't set the world alight at Fulham.
I don't remember how their general play looked like back then, but stats were quite remarkable.
 
I'm hopeful there's a big update today considering Kerry Hau and Patrick Berger made this interview Monday and are keeping it on hold until tomorrow. Must be a reason they've been told to hold it?

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Why are you assuming they've been "told" to hold it and not that it's normal scheduling of publication including promoting it beforehand?
 
Not a dig at Ten Hag as he is my first choice, but I do understand people with some reservations for managers coming from Eredivisie.
I was really surprised to read that Jol's Ajax scored 106 league goals and ended the season with +86 goal difference, and he didn't set the world alight at Fulham.
I don't remember how their general play looked like back then, but stats were quite remarkable.

I don't understand this comparison.

Martin Jol is Tottenham manager for a few year before his Ajax time, and their fans are quite fond of him for his positive football; and thought that Levy did him dirty by undermining him in transfer dealing, then when result suffer, Levy sacked him.

If anything you're saying PL proven and former Tottenham manager wouldn't do well coming back to PL after winning trophy in farmer league!!! :wenger:
 
Not a dig at Ten Hag as he is my first choice, but I do understand people with some reservations for managers coming from Eredivisie.
I was really surprised to read that Jol's Ajax scored 106 league goals and ended the season with +86 goal difference, and he didn't set the world alight at Fulham.
I don't remember how their general play looked like back then, but stats were quite remarkable.
Did Jol ever have a game like this one?
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I'm hopeful there's a big update today considering Kerry Hau and Patrick Berger made this interview Monday and are keeping it on hold until tomorrow. Must be a reason they've been told to hold it?

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There's surely no way United are going to announce Ten Hag when they are still in such a close title race. If they were 10/15 points clear, perhaps. I imagine that if ETH is the man, then there will be an agreement with Ajax to wait until the league is won/lost.
 
Nothing normal about waiting a week with most sought after news in the football world right now?
I think it's completely normal that the publication of an interview conducted on Monday is on Friday?

And again, why are you now assuming that this interview even contains the "most sought after news in the football world"?
Setting aside that the football world does not revolve around Manchester United's managerial selection, do you really think Ten Hag would tell Sport1 from Germany in an interview a piece of news (i.e., that he's will become Manchester United manager) that the club itself has not confirmed publicly? Not a chance. Even if it was already agreed he could and would not tell the media in advance.
 
Let's face it, at some point Pochettino will be Manchester United manager. We all know it's happening.

Whether it's for next season, or to replace the next manager when he's sacked, at some point the board will act on their obsession with him.

We may as well just get it over with so we can move on already.
The board have had seven opportunities to appoint Poch since he arrived on the PL scene, and haven’t done so. I’m not sure why people believe it’s such a sure thing.
 
There's surely no way United are going to announce Ten Hag when they are still in such a close title race. If they were 10/15 points clear, perhaps. I imagine that if ETH is the man, then there will be an agreement with Ajax to wait until the league is won/lost.
Yeah this international break would've been perfect for announcing him, doing it a day or two before their next game is quite disrespectful to him and Ajax.

Would probably be better on Monday as they don't play til Saturday again but I'm hopeful nonetheless. Ajax players have been reported to want the future settled ASAP amid all media speculation.
 
I don't know where YouGov are plucking these figures from, presumably their arse - as they seem completely bizarre

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Yeah I did notice that. But again one of their previous polls had the vast majority of United fans thinking Ole should stay as manager. I’m guessing a lot of non United fans are potentially voting too.
 
I don't know where YouGov are plucking these figures from, presumably their arse - as they seem completely bizarre

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Pretty obvious the media wants us to appoint Pochettino because they know he won't get us up to much, that and a lot of potentially non-United fans posing as United fans to try and get us to appoint the wrong man.
 
Not a dig at Ten Hag as he is my first choice, but I do understand people with some reservations for managers coming from Eredivisie.
I was really surprised to read that Jol's Ajax scored 106 league goals and ended the season with +86 goal difference, and he didn't set the world alight at Fulham.
I don't remember how their general play looked like back then, but stats were quite remarkable.
You have to remember that Jol had Suarez, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Prime Stekelenburg, Van der Wiel and Eriksen in his squad. Any manager can steam roll any opponent with that team. But instead he played boring football and his teams stopped trying after like 3-0 in the first half. That was the worst season to be in the stadium, 45 minutes of entertainment and then 45 mins of torture. On top of that, he didn't even became champion that year...
 
Not a dig at Ten Hag as he is my first choice, but I do understand people with some reservations for managers coming from Eredivisie.
I was really surprised to read that Jol's Ajax scored 106 league goals and ended the season with +86 goal difference, and he didn't set the world alight at Fulham.
I don't remember how their general play looked like back then, but stats were quite remarkable.
Jol didn't have a 119 goal season like ETH had. Jol lost the title in that 106 goal season to FC Twente, where ETH was assistant for Twente. Plus, Jol's next season had Ajax with 36 goals in 17 matches. That's basically a 72 goal full season rate if he didn't resign from Ajax in December. ETH has never had a poor goal return like Jol showed in that final season.

Edit: Correction, ETH was not assistant for Twente at the time, as he had left the season prior.
 
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Jol didn't have a 119 goal season like ETH had. Jol lost the title in that 106 goal season to FC Twente, where ETH was assistant manager for Twente. Plus, Jol's next season had Ajax with 36 goals in 17 matches. That's basically a 72 goal full season rate if he didn't resign from Ajax in December. ETH has never had a poor goal return like Jol showed in that final season.
He wasn't. He left before the season.
 
I don't know where YouGov are plucking these figures from, presumably their arse - as they seem completely bizarre

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Yeah that's not right.

All polls taken by United fans - whether its polls by match-going reds or twitter where it's any follower around the World - show ten hag with 80% of the votes or more.

The other PL supporters wanting Rogers to be United's manager is believable though.
 
The audacity of pulling up these numbers after Gary Neville just said 82% of United fans in his twitter poll want Ten Hag..
Neville's poll was a poll on his Twitter with 2 options (Poch or Ten Hag), that other polls might have other outcomes is not really that audacious is it, especially when they contain options like Simeone or Tuchel or Rangnick with the incumbent bonus.
 
He wasn't. He left before the season.
Thanks for the correction.

Neville's poll was a poll on his Twitter with 2 options (Poch or Ten Hag), that other polls might have other outcomes is not really that audacious is it, especially when they contain options like Simeone or Tuchel or Rangnick with the incumbent bonus.
I doubt it would change much. There were like 200k or so votes and the other options wouldn't be popular for the masses.
 
Neville's poll was a poll on his Twitter with 2 options, that other polls might have other outcomes is not really that audacious is it.
The poll on this very website has 5 options, and he still scores more than 80%, which is in line with a lot of other polls out there, including Neville's.

Those numbers Sky have shown seem fishy, to say the least.
 
The poll on this very website has 5 options, and he still scores more than 80%, which is in line with a lot of other polls out there, including Neville's.

Those numbers Sky have shown seem fishy, to say the least.
The poll on this website doesn't have Tuchel, Simeone, or Rangnick as options, which make up already 30% in the poll on the screenshot. Questions of representativeness aside.
 
no you didn't someone else made that up
Don’t believe it was said to have been agreed. Just that it was thought that 5m would be around the price Ajax would accept.

I think if he becomes our next manager and the compensation has either a £, 5 or some 0’s, its only fair I get credit that we appointed him. Im like a soothsayer of managerial compensation.
 
I don't know where YouGov are plucking these figures from, presumably their arse - as they seem completely bizarre

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Outside of those influenced by twitter, YouTube, here etc many won't have even heard of Ten Hag let alone watched an Ajax game (like most here).
 
Moyes has to share part of the blame for the first transfer window though. He dithered too much. Could've had Thiago the minute he walked through the door but instead he chased after Fabregas who was never going to leave Barca then.
Moyes started in the job far too late (maybe putting it off because he was nervous?), did absolutely no preparatory research and was surprised at how rickety the structure was sans SAF once he’d actually got round to sitting at the manager’s desk.

Not his fault that he inherited a club in need of major restructuring, and he almost certainly wasn’t the one to bring it about, but if he’d done his homework properly I doubt it would have gone so badly for him.
 
You wonder if some want to still appear relevant at the club, rather than being a bunch of pundits who at times show how limited their footballing knowledge really is. Hopefully the board will give it proper thought about if they want what most, including these ex players would be the safe option in Poch or if we want to take a risk, change the club from top to bottom and look to the future. It will be easy to get rid of Poch, but ETH might do a SAF and start dismantling the structure of the club to rebuild it from top to bottom. It would be a lot harder bringing in another manager willing to carry that on.
We have to bite the bullet now and rip the whole first team infrastructure apart because its just disastrous. The concern shouldnt be about short or medium term results but should be focused more on establishing a more efficient wage structure, a discilpined first team and refocusing our recruitment operations towards something more sustainable and effective.

If I had it my way I would continue with Ralf for the next 18 or so months to lay the foundations and rebuild the first team. Get everyone earning 200k or more out, get in young hungry players on the crusp of making it and then look to bring in a manager.

I think whoever we bring in as manager will be swallowed by the toxicity around United and fan pressure will make it difficult for the board to hold back from firing.
 
Fergie was a good judge of player when he was a manager but I'm not sure that should extend to rating other managers in the present day.
Successful people are frequently unaware of what it is about them that has made them successful. Souness and Keane were both massively skilful midfielders with amazing vision. You wouldn’t think so listening to their punditry though; it’s all about desire and getting stuck in. Sure that had that as well, but it’s all that matters to them now. I suspect Fergie also overrates certain traits he knows that he possesses while completely missing others.
 
I don't know where YouGov are plucking these figures from, presumably their arse - as they seem completely bizarre

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They spelt Rodgers wrong on the graphic so I wouldn't put too much faith into what they say.
 
Steve McClaren: "Erik [ten Hag] is very disciplined and people have to buy into that and have that work ethic.
Tactically he’s outstanding. He worked with Pep [Guardiola] at Bayern Munich and took in his philosophy too.
They called him ‘Mini Pep’ out there."
 
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