It's Ten Hag all day long. The Glazers don't want the shite storm if they go for Poch. Even if its mostly just online, because in the ground Poch will get backed at least at first, obviously.
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So they’re telling us what everyone already knew the minute the 4 man shortlist was revealed. Must be a slow news day.
Whatever clear playing Identity Poch had has been beaten away by Neymar and co.
Get used to it
Ten Hag is the only one that fits the bill then if you take Enrique out the equation. It’s so obvious to everyone that Ten Hag should be getting the job which has me very worried our bumbling board go the opposite way and hire Pochettino.
Ironically enough, Neymar's form and numbers have fallen by the wayside under him compared to Tuchel...
Him and Messi have been shells of themselves in the league and Europe this season while still being talismans for their national teams every international break
Enrique is a fantastic coach. His style of play though requires some very specific type of players. That's the reason he did great at Barca and is doing great at Spain NT but he failed at Roma.
United shouldn't go for Enrique unless you are willing to spend big and not win anything for at least a year. Just like it happened with Guardiola at City.
I think Ten Hag would be an easier transition although hard as well mainly because United hasn't had a proper football idea for so long.
Now please explain this to those who claim Poch's experience in managing big names is a positive. Experience !== competency.Ironically enough, Neymar's form and numbers have fallen by the wayside under him compared to Tuchel...
Him and Messi have been shells of themselves in the league and Europe this season while still being talismans for their national teams every international break
Wouldn't listen a jot to what they say. Have so many "sources" to cover every eventual base and still get it wrong.
They had Poch as a formality months ago, which it obviously isn't.
They know as much as you and I, in fact, we probably know more.
Moyes and Mourinho were PL proven too. Meant feck all.
There is a line of reasoning that says that Rodgers, with his 2nd place finish with Liverpool previously and his two Celtic titles, the FA Cup and a Manager of the Year award IS a better candidate, or at least more proven than Ten Hag. I personally don’t rate him as highly as others, but he’s a decent manager. Not sure of the recruitment structure in Leicester, but if he has the final say, he’s done a pretty damn good job in bringing in good players.
Enrique is never coming here, so no point in including him.
I’m not sure Poch is the right guy for the job, but I’m no more confident in Ten Hag, even though the Caf seems well behind him. Pochettino’ s in game tactical management is pretty poor if you ask me. His strength is team setup and imprinting a philosophy, communicating responsibilities to the squad. The fact that he’s never won a league title is worrisome.
If you want to pick apart Ten Hag, that’s easy too. Being at Ajax, there is no indication that he is responsible for the conveyor of talent that rolls through there… They have their pick of youth in the country for their academy, they have a pretty brilliant structure around him (which we don’t have). It’s a lower league, ranked 8th in the world, just after Portugal and before Mexico. Ajax revenues and enterprise value dwarf everyone else in the Eredivisie, almost 2.5x the value of the runner up PSV…
Everyone on the Caf is pro-Ten Hag, which is fine, but he’s going to be making a HUGE step up if he comes in. He may end up being fantastic, but he’ll have a lot challenges he’s never dealt with before. I’m just saying it’s not without risk, and probably, Poch is the safer pick.
One after another..
There is me thinking Sir Alex is 80, oh well..
We must get Ten Hag or Enrique. The rest are just interview fillers
He doesn’t dictate the game to the opponent and he very much sits and waits. That’s arguably the biggest problem with Poch. If he was the manager Sheringham is describing here then more people would still want him here.
They booed under Tuchel as well
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What's your evidence to support this idea that Poch sits and waits? So now he's a pragmatic coach?
Seems like all the fans want ten Hag, but all pros related to united want pochettino, it’s because they’ve heard of him and he’s been in the prem, that’s all there going off. Even carragher said we should go for ten Hag and he would surely want us to make the wrong choice.
We’ll he didn’t carry on attacking Madrid when they was winning. He sat back a little and was hoping mbappe/Neymar or messi could produce something. Was going of individual brilliance to get him something in the game.
My evidence is watching his Spurs team when he was in England because they were one of the better teams in the league at the time. He was a pragmatic coach then and by all accounts that has been the case at PSG as well.
Tuchel got them to a champions league final and had a 75% win rate. Poch hasn't come anywhere close to either of those. Tuchel might have failed to tame the egos there or placate the fans enough, but Poch hasn't exactly succeeded on those fronts too. And that was the point - his experience in managing big names is overstated, he'll face the same problems here.
He actually suggested we go all out for Tuchel. But regardless I think Carragher's been sensible and objective with his suggestions for how United 'fix themselves' despite his Scouse connections. He was one of the few pundits that actually hinted that Solskjaer wasn't good enough whereas our ex players all queued up to absolve him of any blame. Ironically our ex players found themselves on the same page as opposition fans who were desperate for Solskjaer to stay on to our detriment.
Honestly, usually I wouldn't trust them. But if we look positively, in the last 18 months or so we have appointed a director of football and technical director, we have bought in a lot of talent into the youth ranks who are highly rated, we have appointed a new CEO who has said he wants to have the football people running the football side of things properly and we have appointed Ralf as interim while having him help us out afterwards. I know a lot of these are basic things but I do think we are actually looking a bit more sensible recently despite our poor performances on the pitch. That leads me to think we will go for Ten Hag too, especially considering it would cost us more to hire Pochettino.
Ye our ex players was always going to back ole. they don’t speak the truth when it’s one of there mates. Where as any other manager and they’d of wanted him out straight away. That really annoyed me how no matter how bad ole was doing, the likes of Neville was still backing him. I hope they give the next manager the same support they did with ole and let him build a team for us. It’s funny aswell because Neville failed in management, scholes failed in management yet there quick to criticise and judge.
Damn this thread is like a cult now!!
Muppetiers is bound to talk up Pochettino because he's a big fan, however think Murtough would agree with Ralf on this one.
Because as others have said we are still hanging onto the past too much and it will continue to hold us back until that changes
It's funny how people on here go on about a toxic fanbase but it looks decidedly sweet in comparison to our ex-footballers.
Bunch of arrogant, unintelligent attention seekers.
Bunch of arrogant, unintelligent attention seekers.
Probably never even seen Ajax play.
Like most here.
So that one game and in a second half of a tie where PSG dominated the attacking stats in both legs overall is your evidence? Dude that's a real reach. Any other matches to back this assertion?
Look at the stats from the first leg of that Real Madrid tie:
PSG had 21 shots to Real's 3. They had 58% possession and 677 passes to Real's 510.
As for his overall ethos maybe this in depth article will enlighten you, if you're a student of the game
https://www.sportco.io/article/maur...cs-managerial-career-profile-tottenham-953278
The Argentine style of football is to play a very high-pressing, attacking style of football. He prefers two formations, 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 which is possession-oriented and looks to build out with quick, incisive passes to his central midfielders.
Pochettino likes his players to execute vertical passes to teammates further up the pitch to switch defence into attack quickly.
Spurs played high intense high pressing attacking football under Pochettino. To suggest otherwise suggests you didn't follow them much outside of maybe top 6 ties or matches against United. Read the article. Attacking football is what Pochettino is about. When they challengec Chelsea for the title in 2016/17 for instance they had the best attack in the league. Kane, Son and Dele Alli each scored over 20 goals that season
Emery had a better win rate than Tuchel. 76.3%. He was also the recipient of boos as well during his time there and had issues interesting Neymar and Cavani. The same issues that plagued Tuchel. Is Emery a better manager than Tuchel?
How is Pochettino's experience of managing top players overstated when Hag has zero such experience?
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How often do you watch Ajax in the Eredivisie?
Explain this then? You can add 3 more Ligue 1 losses, 4 more Ligue 1 draws, being knocked out of the French Cup and bottling a 2-0 lead in the CL RO16
Fair play to Teddy for not pretending to be an expert on Dutch football. It’s honestly refreshing
PSG's form has been poor lately but tell what that has anything to do with Pochettino's approach to coaching even prior to his role in Paris? PSG sit 12 points clear at the top of Ligue 1 and have only lost four league games all season.
ETH bottled the biggest game of his career to Pochettino's Spurs in that 2019 CL semifinal. At home
I know Goldbridge is basically a youtube character, however he made a good point last night.
He said Utd will only get one chance at Ten Hag so should get him now whereas Pochettino could still be Utd manager in the future
He said Utd will only get one chance at Ten Hag so should get him now whereas Pochettino could still be Utd manager in the future
It's four months, if we can't wait four monthes for the best manager we deserve to fail
Your answer to what he was doing coaching wise prior to PSG is in the tweet with his horrific away record against the top 6 if that isn't proof in the pudding you're intentionally burying your head in the sand
You can talk about that CL semi in 2019 all you want(and Ajax's road to the semi was more impressive beating a strong Juve side and the defending champions of Europe 4-1 at home) but truth is one manager's stock has kept growing since then despite a revolving door of players leaving while the other is about to be sacked twice in 3 years. Look at the present instead of the past
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