LuckyScout78
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Like Conte need Kante and Rudiger to succeed and need some really good players at Inter to succeed. Withouth them. At Spurs, Conte need a lot of time to succeed. Same abilities and qualities required and needed at Spurs. If Conte want to succeed again with Spurs.
Managers, players, the club and the fans are mutual depend on each others.
So If i United and hiring Ten Hag. Then i will ask him under the interview. If he can convince and bring with him of Ajax players most key and important players to join him.
This is the biggest reason of all football clubs fail when they hire and though isolate the manager alone will bring success to the club. But the truth is. The managers had great and important players/factors to bring the manager and club success. Conte, Mourinho or whoever.
And with the Ajax squad and regular XI starting. Even like above. All XI are important. But if you it is a player that will strength and improve United XI and key player for Ten Hag era at United. I think that player would be Lisandro Martinez. Why?
Because is involving with the ball a lot. Dictate and spread the ball around. Most of Ajax build up start from that.
I link from whoscored showing how much ball touch he had and success passes:
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/340105/Show/Lisandro-Martínez
In the league : AvP : 81. PS : 88%. Long ball 5.4. Avg tackling 1,5 -2. Inter : 1.5 -2
In Ch.league : AvP: 87. PS: 91 % Long ball : 5
+ Compare to a top quality CB that dictate the ball a lot is Van Dijk for Liverpool:
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/95408/Show/Virgil-van-Dijk
Van Dijk : In the league: Avp 76.7. PS : 89%. Long ball: 5
In. Ch.league: 79.2. P.S : 90.7 % . Long Ball: 7.2
In common with both of them and what i like about them are. Both of the varying with short and long passes. When its right and effience with long passes they do it. And when its right to play to trough the midfield they do it. They are not locked in one passing style, but with are most effience during different situations. Its calling decision making.
So with the comparison with one of the CB out there in Van Dijk. Martinez abiliy with dictating and build up the attack is up there with the best CB in the game. Martinez left foot is really precise and good with the ball.
And if Ten Hag is coming and can bring a really quick and good RW with a really good end product like Raphinha. I can see a dangerous relation and way to score between Martinez to Raphinha. Like this:
Martinez ----------> Long diagonal ball to --------> Raphinha = set up for a quick counter attack against a high back line like City and Liverpool or play over the first press of the opponent team, theirs first pressing line. We have seen some diagonal passes/trough passes from Lindelof to Rashford. From right and more to left. With Martinez it will be from left CB to RW. Then opponent will fear of it and be aware of it.
And back to Ten Hag. Like i have said earlier. He knows how. He knows that CF are depend on really good consistent service. So when he bought a low confidence with Haller from West Ham. He knew he had to buy a top quality playmaker to feed Haller with passes. So it end up like this at Ajax:
Tadic -------------> precise crosses and passes -------> to CF Haller.
Its about. How to make Haller good?Of course the right answer is = top consistent playmaker.
When you see those things above. You are seeing the bigger picture. The relations between players = the collective. A conistent strong collective = A conistent good team.
If you see this this. Then you know how to build conistent good football team, special in the build up and attack. You knows which ingredients and factors/reason that will lead to the end product. Which is scoring more goals the opponent teams = to win the match.
Conclusion and sum up: That are the reasons why i voted for Ten Hag. And hopefully he can bring Lisandro Martinez with him to United too. I voted borth Ten Hag & Lisandro Martinez for United.
Potential defend line up with Ten Hag:
Bissaka - Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Again. When United hire a manager. United shall take a closer look and analyze Ten Hag success. The reason that lead to Ten Hag success = Ajax XI and squad too. Closely. Not Ten Hag isolate. To avoid it stand in the way to see the bigger picture :
United got the masterchef , but not all the important and key ingredients = to lead to a perfect meal/result. In football winning matches. Conte and Mourinho have been examples and whoever.
Managers, players, the club and the fans are mutual depend on each others.
So If i United and hiring Ten Hag. Then i will ask him under the interview. If he can convince and bring with him of Ajax players most key and important players to join him.
This is the biggest reason of all football clubs fail when they hire and though isolate the manager alone will bring success to the club. But the truth is. The managers had great and important players/factors to bring the manager and club success. Conte, Mourinho or whoever.
And with the Ajax squad and regular XI starting. Even like above. All XI are important. But if you it is a player that will strength and improve United XI and key player for Ten Hag era at United. I think that player would be Lisandro Martinez. Why?
Because is involving with the ball a lot. Dictate and spread the ball around. Most of Ajax build up start from that.
I link from whoscored showing how much ball touch he had and success passes:
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/340105/Show/Lisandro-Martínez
In the league : AvP : 81. PS : 88%. Long ball 5.4. Avg tackling 1,5 -2. Inter : 1.5 -2
In Ch.league : AvP: 87. PS: 91 % Long ball : 5
+ Compare to a top quality CB that dictate the ball a lot is Van Dijk for Liverpool:
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/95408/Show/Virgil-van-Dijk
Van Dijk : In the league: Avp 76.7. PS : 89%. Long ball: 5
In. Ch.league: 79.2. P.S : 90.7 % . Long Ball: 7.2
In common with both of them and what i like about them are. Both of the varying with short and long passes. When its right and effience with long passes they do it. And when its right to play to trough the midfield they do it. They are not locked in one passing style, but with are most effience during different situations. Its calling decision making.
So with the comparison with one of the CB out there in Van Dijk. Martinez abiliy with dictating and build up the attack is up there with the best CB in the game. Martinez left foot is really precise and good with the ball.
And if Ten Hag is coming and can bring a really quick and good RW with a really good end product like Raphinha. I can see a dangerous relation and way to score between Martinez to Raphinha. Like this:
Martinez ----------> Long diagonal ball to --------> Raphinha = set up for a quick counter attack against a high back line like City and Liverpool or play over the first press of the opponent team, theirs first pressing line. We have seen some diagonal passes/trough passes from Lindelof to Rashford. From right and more to left. With Martinez it will be from left CB to RW. Then opponent will fear of it and be aware of it.
And back to Ten Hag. Like i have said earlier. He knows how. He knows that CF are depend on really good consistent service. So when he bought a low confidence with Haller from West Ham. He knew he had to buy a top quality playmaker to feed Haller with passes. So it end up like this at Ajax:
Tadic -------------> precise crosses and passes -------> to CF Haller.
Its about. How to make Haller good?Of course the right answer is = top consistent playmaker.
When you see those things above. You are seeing the bigger picture. The relations between players = the collective. A conistent strong collective = A conistent good team.
If you see this this. Then you know how to build conistent good football team, special in the build up and attack. You knows which ingredients and factors/reason that will lead to the end product. Which is scoring more goals the opponent teams = to win the match.
Conclusion and sum up: That are the reasons why i voted for Ten Hag. And hopefully he can bring Lisandro Martinez with him to United too. I voted borth Ten Hag & Lisandro Martinez for United.
Potential defend line up with Ten Hag:
Bissaka - Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Again. When United hire a manager. United shall take a closer look and analyze Ten Hag success. The reason that lead to Ten Hag success = Ajax XI and squad too. Closely. Not Ten Hag isolate. To avoid it stand in the way to see the bigger picture :
United got the masterchef , but not all the important and key ingredients = to lead to a perfect meal/result. In football winning matches. Conte and Mourinho have been examples and whoever.