Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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I know Goldbridge is basically a youtube character, however he made a good point last night.

He said Utd will only get one chance at Ten Hag so should get him now whereas Pochettino could still be Utd manager in the future

What a weird and senseless thought. 'Let me date this girl now while she's attainable or before someone else gets her but I'll keep the other girl in my black book in case I get a chance with her in the future'. This is the guy who's word most united supporters stick to like glue? Wow
 
It's funny how people on here go on about a toxic fanbase but it looks decidedly sweet in comparison to our ex-footballers.

Bunch of arrogant, unintelligent attention seekers.


You realize how toxic that comment is ?
 
Your answer to what he was doing coaching wise prior to PSG is in the tweet with his horrific away record against the top 6 if that isn't proof in the pudding you're intentionally burying your head in the sand
You can talk about that CL semi in 2019 all you want(and Ajax's road to the semi was more impressive beating a strong Juve side and the defending champions of Europe 4-1 at home) but truth is one manager's stock has kept growing since then despite a revolving door of players leaving while the other is about to be sacked twice in 3 years. Look at the present instead of the past

His record against the top 6 wasn't great but it didn't stop him overachieving with Spurs and outperforming clubs that spent more, like United. Pochettino outperformed United during his time at Spurs. Where did our better record against the top 6 get us?
 
What a weird and senseless thought. 'Let me date this girl now while she's attainable or before someone else gets her but I'll keep the other girl in my black book in case I get a chance with her in the future'. This is the guy who's word most united supporters stick to like glue? Wow

Not weird and senseless at all because Pochettino isn't as in demand by top clubs outside our ex players thoughts
 
I know Goldbridge is basically a youtube character, however he made a good point last night.

He said Utd will only get one chance at Ten Hag so should get him now whereas Pochettino could still be Utd manager in the future
Based on what?
 
It's four months, if we can't wait four monthes for the best manager we deserve to fail

Well that's a weird slant to put on the whole thing.

You think it's a good idea to wait til after the World Cup? The Summer transfer window, Pre-season and half of the 2022/23 season fecked off?

I don't see how Enrique is that much better than the rest that it would make sense to do that.
 
Just a gut feeling I have much like we only had one chance at Guardiola, however were too slow and Bayern got it done. Klopp was totally on Woody and no one will convince me of any different.


Klopp is the one that got away. If only we got him who knows how different the past few years world have been
 
His record against the top 6 wasn't great but it didn't stop him overachieving with Spurs and outperforming clubs that spent more, like United. Pochettino outperformed United during his time at Spurs. Where did our better record against the top 6 get us?
Well both records didn't get Utd or Poch anywhere as neither party won anything but I'd rather we got a man who's shown he can do it away from home in Ten Hag who's only lost one away CL game against Liverpool in his last 21 away games than someone who has next to zero nuance in that regard. Poch's away record at PSG isn't that great either in Ligue 1 and this season he's won zero away games in the CL this season. That's a sign that his poor away record is a worrying pattern not an unfortunate fluke
 
Your answer to what he was doing coaching wise prior to PSG is in the tweet with his horrific away record against the top 6 if that isn't proof in the pudding you're intentionally burying your head in the sand
You can talk about that CL semi in 2019 all you want(and Ajax's road to the semi was more impressive beating a strong Juve side and the defending champions of Europe 4-1 at home) but truth is one manager's stock has kept growing since then despite a revolving door of players leaving while the other is about to be sacked twice in 3 years. Look at the present instead of the past
Your wasting your time trying to explain anything to him mate. He’s fighting a losing battle but will still try and prove his point with some awful stats.
 
Are you arguing for Ten Hag or against him with that?
For aha, sounds like it’s against don’t it… my point was even the scouser is siding with our fans and choosing the manager we want… where as our club legends are all going against the fans.
 
Well both records didn't get Utd or Poch anywhere as neither party won anything but I'd rather we got a man who's shown he can do it away from home in Ten Hag who's only lost one away CL game against Liverpool in his last 21 away games than someone who has next to zero nuance in that regard. Poch's away record at PSG isn't that great either in Ligue 1 and this season he's won zero away games in the CL this season. That's a sign that his poor away record is a worrying pattern not an unfortunate fluke

Poch challenged for the PL title in 2016/17 and got Spurs 86 points while outscoring eventual champions Chelsea. That's more points than United have attained in a single season since Fergie left. He also got Spurs to the CL final with way less money to spend on transfers while united blew a billion on misfits. Poch won nothing but don't tell me you wouldn't have taken his achievements at Spurs over the shit we've been served up since 2013
 
Oh ffs it's started already and we haven't even appointed a new manager yet.

We haven't appointed Ten Hag and multitudes are treating the situation as if it's him or bust. Yes, cult followers, many of whom don't even watch Ajax regularly in the Eredivisie and many of whom have little idea how he actually operates
 
It is weird how so many of our ex-players seem convinced Poch is Fergie incarnate. I actually liked Pochettino when he was at Spurs, but the coverage he gets in the media you'd think the last 3 years never happened.
 
Poch challenged for the PL title in 2016/17 and got Spurs 86 points while outscoring eventual champions Chelsea. That's more points than United have attained in a single season since Fergie left. He also got Spurs to the CL final with way less money to spend on transfers while united blew a billion on misfits. Poch won nothing but don't tell me you wouldn't have taken his achievements at Spurs over the shit we've been served up since 2013
Well I wouldn't take his achievements at Spurs over our achievements with Jose or LVG because in the former's case we won trophies and hit 81 points just a few less than Poch's and in the latter's case we were actually building towards a plan which would have actualized itself well with better recruitment plus we won a trophy. Give me trophies with top 4 finishes over top 4 finishes and "almost maybe" moments in cup competitions and almost every fan here will say the same.
Poch would have been nice 3 years ago but the game has evolved and other project managers have emerged or evolved since 2019 having done better jobs than Poch over the last few years in Ten Hag, Amorim, Lopetegui, Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Emery, Arteta, Xavi, Inzaghi, Pioli, Gaiter amongst others. What he did at Spurs is not relevant if he can't back it up in the present
 
Well I wouldn't take his achievements at Spurs over our achievements with Jose or LVG because in the former's case we won trophies and hit 81 points just a few less than Poch's and in the latter's case we were actually building towards a plan which would have actualized itself well with better recruitment plus we won a trophy. Give me trophies with top 4 finishes over top 4 finishes and "almost maybe" moments in cup competitions and almost every fan here will say the same.
Poch would have been nice 3 years ago but the game has evolved and other project managers have emerged or evolved since 2019 having done better jobs than Poch over the last few years in Ten Hag, Amorim, Lopetegui, Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Emery, Arteta, Xavi, Inzaghi, Pioli, Gaiter amongst others. What he did at Spurs is not relevant if he can't back it up in the present

So you wouldn't take a CL final appearance post Fergie and a genuine title challenge? Haha. Ok. We don't have to agree. Poch is my top pick.
 
Truth is either Poch or Hag will be better than anything we’ve had for years so I won’t get upset should either get the job, just get it done in good time so he can plan and get things rolling
 
So you wouldn't take a CL final appearance post Fergie and a genuine title challenge? Haha. Ok. We don't have to agree. Poch is my top pick.
Title challenge? Chelsea won like 14 games in a row after losing 3-0 to Arsenal and changing their system to a back 3 the title was a foregone conclusion after that period just like ours when we hit 81points.
I wouldn't swap a CL final appearance resulting in a loss over the trophies we've won Post Fergie Era. At the end of the day history is kinder to winners over Runner Ups.(On a side note I'd swap a CL trophy over everything we've won since Fergie retired)
Like I've said Poch is a good manager but I'd rather we just took a different approach to what Woodward would have done if he was still here. Agree to disagree though
 
We haven't appointed Ten Hag and multitudes are treating the situation as if it's him or bust. Yes, cult followers, many of whom don't even watch Ajax regularly in the Eredivisie and many of whom have little idea how he actually operates
Aren't you doing the exact same with Pochettino though? Pot calling the kettle there.
 
Poch challenged for the PL title in 2016/17 and got Spurs 86 points while outscoring eventual champions Chelsea. That's more points than United have attained in a single season since Fergie left. He also got Spurs to the CL final with way less money to spend on transfers while united blew a billion on misfits. Poch won nothing but don't tell me you wouldn't have taken his achievements at Spurs over the shit we've been served up since 2013



Sorry I can't work out if you are serious here, you would take the achievements of Poch spurs over 3 cup wins, a spurs fan would snap your hand for even the Micky mouse cup of them all :lol:
 
Poch challenged for the PL title in 2016/17 and got Spurs 86 points while outscoring eventual champions Chelsea. That's more points than United have attained in a single season since Fergie left. He also got Spurs to the CL final with way less money to spend on transfers while united blew a billion on misfits. Poch won nothing but don't tell me you wouldn't have taken his achievements at Spurs over the shit we've been served up since 2013

Astonishing take, bravo. We've had a rubbish few years, still wouldn't swap it with what Poch did at Spurs. What on earth have they got to show for it? Absolutely nothing.
 
So you wouldn't take a CL final appearance post Fergie and a genuine title challenge? Haha. Ok. We don't have to agree. Poch is my top pick.


Also if that was a legit title challenge then last year was too for us.


Basically a champs league final and playing total shite is a mad achievement, over winning 3 cups. Can imagine the spurs fans buzzing about talking about winning nothing that night
 
Title challenge? Chelsea won like 14 games in a row after losing 3-0 to Arsenal and changing their system to a back 3 the title was a foregone conclusion after that period just like ours when we hit 81points.
I wouldn't swap a CL final appearance resulting in a loss over the trophies we've won Post Fergie Era. At the end of the day history is kinder to winners over Runner Ups.(On a side note I'd swap a CL trophy over everything we've won since Fergie retired)
Like I've said Poch is a good manager but I'd rather we just took a different approach to what Woodward would have done if he was still here. Agree to disagree though

Pochettino's achievements with a club of Spurs magnitude and spending eclipses everything united has done post Fergie for a club of uniteds magnitude and useless spending.
 
Pochettino's achievements with a club of Spurs magnitude and spending eclipses everything united has done post Fergie for a club of uniteds magnitude and useless spending.
Small-club mentality tbh

You still play for silverware at the end of the day and Spurs never achieved any even with better squads than United had under Poch.

Even Arsenal fans would take their FA cup triumphs over trophyless seasons and impotent title 'challenges' 10 times out of 10
 
So you wouldn't take a CL final appearance post Fergie and a genuine title challenge? Haha. Ok. We don't have to agree. Poch is my top pick.
What the hell are you doing on the United forum, Neville? Go and do some punditry for Sky.
 
One thing about Poch that makes me doubt him is he’s never been faced with the scenario of losing his best players and being forced to rebuild and emulate the previous success. I don’t know about his Espanyol days but the only major player I can think of he’s lost at Spurs that was a considerable loss was Kyle Walker.

Meanwhile, ETH in his time at Ajax has lost De Jong, De Ligt, Van de Beek, Dest, Ziyech…and Ajax have carried on being relatively competitive considering every year their best players get picked off. Klopp faced it at Dortmund as he lost his stars for free to the big, bad Bayern and lost Coutinho to Barcelona. Ferguson lost Steve Archibald at Aberdeen after his first league title and lost Ronaldo to Real.

Through no fault of his own, Poch hasn’t been faced with having to replace his best players. How would have Spurs done if Kane and/or Son got sold?

Any manager can make a good team but the great managers can make new ones that are just as successful (if not more successful) and can show they can move on from players.
 
Small-club mentality tbh

You still play for silverware at the end of the day and Spurs never achieved any even with better squads than United had under Poch.

Even Arsenal fans would take their FA cup triumphs over trophyless seasons and impotent title 'challenges' 10 times out of 10

He is a better manager than Ole yes I agree but is he a better manager than even Ranieri? No he is not because Claudio won the PL with a much smaller club and Spurs is a big club in England anyway. With ETH you can see the style of play that he brings with Poch when Kane and Son are not firing, they do not play well. Also Erickson had a one off brilliant season with them. With Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, and the lot, he could not win the CL. He is not going to win us anything. Yes he will get us into the CL most probably but with Conte at Spurs, I have my doubts.
 
I'm not a Goldbridge fan but you seem to get instigated by anything he says. This is a fair point he made.

I don't even know what he looks or sounds like. It's ridiculous what he said if true, in my opinion.

Aren't you doing the exact same with Pochettino though? Pot calling the kettle there.

Not quite. At least I know Pochetinno's managerial style unlike the majority of his decorators and pro Hag posters who've repeatedly exhibited having little knowledge of both managers through a lack of due diligence.


Sorry I can't work out if you are serious here, you would take the achievements of Poch spurs over 3 cup wins, a spurs fan would snap your hand for even the Micky mouse cup of them all :lol:
For the funds Pochetinno worked with he's outperformed United in the post Ferguson era. That's the bitter truth. Even with uniteds Europa league, FA cup and League cup we've been a right joke since 2013 and have blown close to a billion. We're what Liverpool were before Klopp made them relevant again

Astonishing take, bravo. We've had a rubbish few years, still wouldn't swap it with what Poch did at Spurs. What on earth have they got to show for it? Absolutely nothing.

I'd take a genuine shot at the league title and CL in the post Fergie era over anything we've achieved since. We didn't even get enough respect for that EL triumph and failed to build on any of our small successes. Poch improved Spurs with each season and a league battle and CL final in his last few seasons was all he could do with what he was working with.

Also if that was a legit title challenge then last year was too for us.


Basically a champs league final and playing total shite is a mad achievement, over winning 3 cups. Can imagine the spurs fans buzzing about talking about winning nothing that night

What rubbish. Spurs finished 2016/17 with 86 points and outscored Chelsea in the end. The battle was close while City swept us away while Liverpool had a poor season. We never challenged, same as Mourinho's second season where we finished on 81 points and still never looked like real contenders
 
Small-club mentality tbh

You still play for silverware at the end of the day and Spurs never achieved any even with better squads than United had under Poch.

Even Arsenal fans would take their FA cup triumphs over trophyless seasons and impotent title 'challenges' 10 times out of 10

Spurs had 'no right' to even be in the positions they found themselves in during Pochettino's time there. United achieved nothing. We fired LVG right after winning the FA cup for instance and the celebrations were subdued and mood still rotten at the club. The mood was even worse after Mourinho's second place finish in 2017/18 and bled into the next disaster of a final season for him
 
He is a better manager than Ole yes I agree but is he a better manager than even Ranieri? No he is not because Claudio won the PL with a much smaller club and Spurs is a big club in England anyway. With ETH you can see the style of play that he brings with Poch when Kane and Son are not firing, they do not play well. Also Erickson had a one off brilliant season with them. With Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, and the lot, he could not win the CL. He is not going to win us anything. Yes he will get us into the CL most probably but with Conte at Spurs, I have my doubts.

I agree 100%

Would've preferred Poch over Ole in 2018/19 but 3 years on and with alternatives available now he hasn't shown anything that convinces me that he could take the club forward and get us out of the trophy rut the club has been on for years now.

Would love to be able to watch and be entertained by the club regularly again even if we're not contending straight away after the last few years being so topsy turvy in terms of performances and we haven't contended for anything.

We're in a similar spot that Liverpool were post-Rodgers. They had no CL football but you could still slowly see them building their identity and playing style under Klopp before he got the chance to truly build his own side and bring in his players. No matter their personnel, you always knew what to expect from them stylistically on the pitch each matchweek.

We haven't had anything similar to that in years and that's what I look forward to the most in a new manager which is why options like Lopetegui or Poch are wide off the mark to me in terms of what we should be going for. If we were hellbent on going the pragmatic route, that we've already tried before with LVG and Jose, Conte and Tuchel would've been my picks ahead of Poch but they're not realistic.

If he can't drill in a set playing style even in a no pressure farmers league with arguably the most talented side in Europe, I've got no hope that he could get a decent tune out of our current lot or build a formidable and attractive side capable of challenging the Citys, Liverpools and Chelseas at United
 
I don't even know what he looks or sounds like. It's ridiculous what he said if true, in my opinion.



Not quite. At least I know Pochetinno's managerial style unlike the majority of his decorators and pro Hag posters who've repeatedly exhibited having little knowledge of both managers through a lack of due diligence.



For the funds Pochetinno worked with he's outperformed United in the post Ferguson era. That's the bitter truth. Even with uniteds Europa league, FA cup and League cup we've been a right joke since 2013 and have blown close to a billion. We're what Liverpool were before Klopp made them relevant again



I'd take a genuine shot at the league title and CL in the post Fergie era over anything we've achieved since. We didn't even get enough respect for that EL triumph and failed to build on any of our small successes. Poch improved Spurs with each season and a league battle and CL final in his last few seasons was all he could do with what he was working with.



What rubbish. Spurs finished 2016/17 with 86 points and outscored Chelsea in the end. The battle was close while City swept us away while Liverpool had a poor season. We never challenged, same as Mourinho's second season where we finished on 81 points and still never looked like real contenders
To say Pochs Spurs have outperformed United in the same period is quite frankly hilarious.
And bar one season, Poch spent money. It's a myth that he was frugal with cash.
This post is littered with errors and revisionist history quite frankly.
 
I don't even know what he looks or sounds like. It's ridiculous what he said if true, in my opinion.



Not quite. At least I know Pochetinno's managerial style unlike the majority of his decorators and pro Hag posters who've repeatedly exhibited having little knowledge of both managers through a lack of due diligence.



For the funds Pochetinno worked with he's outperformed United in the post Ferguson era. That's the bitter truth. Even with uniteds Europa league, FA cup and League cup we've been a right joke since 2013 and have blown close to a billion. We're what Liverpool were before Klopp made them relevant again



I'd take a genuine shot at the league title and CL in the post Fergie era over anything we've achieved since. We didn't even get enough respect for that EL triumph and failed to build on any of our small successes. Poch improved Spurs with each season and a league battle and CL final in his last few seasons was all he could do with what he was working with.



What rubbish. Spurs finished 2016/17 with 86 points and outscored Chelsea in the end. The battle was close while City swept us away while Liverpool had a poor season. We never challenged, same as Mourinho's second season where we finished on 81 points and still never looked like real contenders


Wow they came 2nd but where never in the race. As I say can't work out if you being serious here, starting to think you are Amadeus burner account :lol:


You are clinging to absolute pointless stuff in grand scheme of things and packaging it up as achievements.


You are disregarding any sort of doubts about Poch time at spurs and PSG, and making out he been absolutely stellar this whole time, with no doubts about him.



From what I'm saying people want to run with the fresher option in Hag, but listening to you, you would think he been the manager who maybe about to get sacked from 3rd club out of 4. You have a inability to see any sort of flaws with Poch, where as most people understand Hag is a gamble as well, and is areas of him which are unknown with a club our size.



the whole disregarding trophies reeks of small time as well, and to be honest makes sense you are gung ho for Poch as he thinks they aren't important either.
 
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