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[Mainoldo]

Well you thought he's a sporting director so obviously you dont have a clue about his role. And many more things.

Oh here we are. The clueless left wing Caf posters society.

Clearly I said the wrong title. Imagine if I thought Darren Fletcher was doing Murtough’ Stoke, further more imagine believing I did.. But not surprised you thought that you just read stuff and grasp nothing.

But enlightening me. What has Fletcher brought to the table since having his ‘Technical Director role’?

Who’s he recommended to the first team? Was he the one who told Ralf to not use 4222? Was it infact Fletcher who suggested AWB should be placed back in the first 11?

 

[Tom Van Persie]

ten Hag's agent Kees Vos was also van Persie's agent and he brokered his transfer to United. Interesting link.

 

[United in sin]

Ten Hag seems to be willing to do whatever it takes to secure the role at united if these rumors are true.

He worked with former Ajax players in Michael Reiziger and Winston Borgarde as part of his assistant coaching trio and had little say on their appointments but he won't find the same caliber of coaching among uniteds former players. He could be in for a rude awakening if he gets hired

 

[Relevated]

RVP is good in the sense that he shares a very good history with United but he hadn't hadn't with us for so much that he would be too emotive in talking and his judgement wouldn't be clouded by anything. He'd be able to offer a realistic approach, as opposed to someone like ferdinand who is very emotive.

 

[jeff_goldblum]

Most of what I know about Ten Haag is second-hand as I don't follow Dutch football, but from first-hand experience of the others I can't see any of them being a better option.

We should steer well clear of Pochettino. He's a decent manager who gets way overhyped on here because his most 'successful' period (coming 2nd in 16/17 and getting to the UCL final in 18/19) corresponded with us being at two of our lower ebbs (finishing 6th both years). He's shown very little that convinces me he'd do a good job here.

 

[Real Name]

Oh here we are. The clueless left wing Caf posters society.

Clearly I said the wrong title. Imagine if I thought Darren Fletcher was doing Murtough’ Stoke, further more imagine believing I did.. But not surprised you thought that you just read stuff and grasp nothing.

But enlightening me. What has Fletcher brought to the table since having his ‘Technical Director role’?

Who’s he recommended to the first team? Was he the one who told Ralf to not use 4222? Was it infact Fletcher who suggested AWB should be placed back in the first 11?

A what?

Whats to grasp, you're just writing nonsense and then say to give you credit.

What should he do, brief the media and Mainoldo every day what has he done for the day?

 

[United in sin]

But anyway back on the topic of 'process' with these interviews.

What exactly are they hoping to hear from Poch or Lopetegui that would convince them they're better picks over ETH, especially if ETH has supposedly impressed in his interview.

If Poch in his interview said "yeah I'll win us the league next season, turn Maguire into Maldini and Rashford will be scoring 30 goals" do they take it seriously? Interviews are mostly conjecture and exaggerated claims.

So the club shouldn't bother looking at candidates because it's Hag or nothing for you? That's surely not how you expect the club to operate

 

[BorisManUtd]

See reply below. Thanks

'Ole's at the wheel, United are back' sounded cringe to me when he said it and it certainly aged terribly. Read your post on why we should hire Rio and it all sounds great in theory but there's no evidence Rio would bring much to us. We need quality in coaching department, that's most important.

 

[United in sin]

Most of what I know about Ten Haag is second-hand as I don't follow Dutch football, but from first-hand experience of the others I can't see any of them being a better option.

We should steer well clear of Pochettino. He's a decent manager who gets way overhyped on here because his most 'successful' period (coming 2nd in 16/17 and getting to the UCL final in 18/19) corresponded with us being at two of our lower ebbs (finishing 6th both years). He's shown very little that convinces me he'd do a good job here.

What about Luis Enrique? Lopetegui? Both play attacking and technical football the fans want to see. Enrique won the treble with Barcelona and is making Spain look like a great team again at NT level

 

[Real Name]

Or it is a sign of how irrelevant City is?

Yeah, what a strange take. Of all the things stuff being all over media regarding United is not a sign we're badly run but the club which still makes the most clicks.

 

[MonkeysMagic]

Whilst Utd will always emphasise that this a 'process' and there are no favourites, generally in all walks of life, you speak to the candidate first that you favour. There is an international break so Poch will be equally 'available' if he was the favourite.

That said, even if Utd were convinced by ETH at the meeting, no way do they announce his appointment with Ajax in a title race. So internally they may know who is taking over, officially this wont be announced for some time.

 

[Trophy Room]

Ah the Darren Fletcher bashing. After the McKenna bashing. And the Carrick bashing. And the Phelan bashing. We want football people making football decisions but they can’t be British or have any ties to United right!? Absolute fecking bellends.

Exactly. fecking clueless.

 

[Dembeza]

Any idea of when the other candidates will binterviewed?

If Luis Enrique is one of the candidates then it means the interview will only be done after the international break, which means the decision will be finalized this month?

 

[SirReginald]

Oh here we are. The clueless left wing Caf posters society.

Clearly I said the wrong title. Imagine if I thought Darren Fletcher was doing Murtough’ Stoke, further more imagine believing I did.. But not surprised you thought that you just read stuff and grasp nothing.

But enlightening me. What has Fletcher brought to the table since having his ‘Technical Director role’?

Who’s he recommended to the first team? Was he the one who told Ralf to not use 4222? Was it infact Fletcher who suggested AWB should be placed back in the first 11?

I can’t honestly explain the specifics of Fletchers role or how influential he is or has been since he got the job. My only concern with him is that RR doesn’t know what he does. The man being paid to restructure the club.

If a regular business hires auditors to begin a restructure, the one thing a manager would be worrying about is proving their worth and what they do is worth keeping.

So being seen to put cones out at training (I believe is what he said) as a senior (titled) position should really send alarm bells. But the structure of the club itself hasn’t been great since Gill was replaced by Woodward.

If you want a close comparison in the premier league, Cech has a job title of “Technical Director” similar to that of Fletcher. He works with the first team and the boardroom, getting involved in club politics. Even temporarily un retiring to support the team. Yet there’s never been a question mark on what he does or doesn’t do.

 

[sewey89]

What exactly has Darren Fletcher done wrong?

 

[romufc]

Ah the Darren Fletcher bashing. After the McKenna bashing. And the Carrick bashing. And the Phelan bashing. We want football people making football decisions but they can’t be British or have any ties to United right!? Absolute fecking bellends.

Welcome to the caf. If its a British ex player, then alot of bashing indeed.

Look at the abuse our own fans threw at McKenna's coaching, to now the job he is doing at Ipswich.

Apparently Fletcher is clueless because all these fans have spend hours talking to him about football so they know how good he is.

Its actually a really sad state if you ask me.

 

[Adisa]

That random twitter account was right about the Monday meeting

We all dismissed it as bull too

All these journs are now acting like they in the know.

 

[bond19821982]

Based on what exactly? How does someone who's never coached in his life and infamously come out with priceless snippets like "Ole at the wheel" become the man to get the best out of our players? A few of those players shouldn't even be at the club in the coming seasons, irrespective of who the coaches are.

Exactly. People thought Ole could get the best out of strikers because he himself was a striker and look how it turned out.

Ex- players - please stay where you are.

 

[DJ_21]

Hope we don’t interview the guy from Sevilla. He’s worse than LVG. His Sevilla team are boring and hardly have any shots.

 

[L1nk]

Exactly. fecking clueless.

It is but I also think people are sick of seeing under qualified coaches and staff given jobs seemingly just because they used to play for the club. It's like alot of pundits have been saying for a while, we should be getting qualified and best in class type coaches. During the Ole tenure we basically had coaches and staff learning on the job because they just happened to have ties to the club. Fletcher has a job as Technical Director because he used to play for us, not because he has extensive experience in that position, because he doesn't.

I think this is what people are annoyed by, there's one thing to hire an ex player if they've gone off and had extensive experience elsewhere, for example, RVN has had good experience coaching the PSV u-17s, the PSV u-19s and as Assistant Manager for the Netherlands, so I guarantee you wouldn't find many people against appointing him as a coach or assistant because he's actually gone off and gained some experience, the fact he used to play for us is just a bonus, rather than the main determining factor.

If we hired VDS, who has gone off and made himself successful as CEO of Ajax, for CEO of United, people would love it, the fact he used to play for us is a bonus. You hire Fletcher as CEO and people will rightly be up in arms because he has no experience in it, except that he used to play for us.

We have a habit of giving people with ties to the club positions in the club when they have zero or very little experience in said position, just because they have ties to the club, THAT'S what people are annoyed by.

 

[Adisa]

Not a great source but from what they're reporting, the club want a ex player to come in to Unite the dressing room. Rio and Van Persie have allegedly shown a interest in taking up the role.

Sounds a bit far fetched.

Unite what dressing room...sell the lot

 

[United in sin]

Welcome to the caf. If its a British ex player, then alot of bashing indeed.

Look at the abuse our own fans threw at McKenna's coaching, to now the job he is doing at Ipswich.

Apparently Fletcher is clueless because all these fans have spend hours talking to him about football so they know how good he is.

Its actually a really sad state if you ask me.

Perhaps Ipswich and league one is more his (McKenna's) level? How can you begin to compare the work he's performed at the two clubs? The supporters have every right to sensibly question Fletcher's pedigree and qualifications. I don't agree with bashing him for the sake of it. I do like Fletcher

 

[Hughie77]

If this guy comes in at end of season, he needs to win his league, before coming .the wheels are picking up speed on this guy now. Let's see

 

[Rolaholic]

Klopp was the hipsters choice once.

So were Tuchel, Arteta, Conte etc...

 

[United in sin]

Hope we don’t interview the guy from Sevilla. He’s worse than LVG. His Sevilla team are boring and hardly have any shots.

It should be pointed out Sevilla are second in La Liga under Lopetegui and have only lost twice all season. They've managed this despite being afflicted with injuries to attackers routinely this season to the point where fans have been bashing their medical department. That's why they were desperate for Martial

 

[romufc]

Perhaps Ipswich and league one is more his (McKenna's) level? How can you begin to compare the work he's performed at the two clubs? The supporters have every right to sensibly question Fletcher's pedigree and qualifications. I don't agree with bashing him for the sake of it. I do like Fletcher

McKenna was not managing the club, he was a coach. Clearly he wasn't rubbish like everyone kept saying. Also, for someone who has never managed to manage league 1 is not easy unless you implying it is.

Fletcher has said that he started his coaching badges when he was at WBA and Stoke and is in a similar role to Cech at Chelsea. I dont see Chelsea fans all crying about his qualifications and pedigree, they instead appreciate it and prefer it.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

So were Tuchel, Arteta, Conte etc...

One of these isn’t the same.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

JLingz and Rashy will love him

 

[United in sin]

McKenna was not managing the club, he was a coach. Clearly he wasn't rubbish like everyone kept saying. Also, for someone who has never managed to manage league 1 is not easy unless you implying it is.

Fletcher has said that he started his coaching badges when he was at WBA and Stoke and is in a similar role to Cech at Chelsea. I dont see Chelsea fans all crying about his qualifications and pedigree, they instead appreciate it and prefer it.

How have I remotely insinuated that's it's easy to manage/coach at any level? League one is still a vastly different standard to the PL, let alone the upper levels of the league and European football.

Chelsea fans have little reason to question Cech when the club has a structure in place that has continually kept them where they need to be. Chelsea recover from setbacks and managerial failures much faster and efficiently than most other top clubs in Europe. The fans would forensically analyze these appointments if given reason to

United has been an absolute catastrophe since Fergie's departure and some of the fans are asking pertinent questions. Would Fletcher be appealing to united based on his qualifications and experience alone if he didn't previously play for the club?

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Resch]

The problem with a new manager is, that the spirit of mediocrity still is at the club. Too many people are satisfied with a fourth place. To many think about money and do not think about football.

 

[Traub]

If this guy comes in at end of season, he needs to win his league, before coming .the wheels are picking up speed on this guy now. Let's see

If he is announced, I wouldn't judge his team's performance post announcement. We've seen how such an announcement can disrupt the team.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

He's becoming a right unbearable cnut.

 

[FootyGirl88]

I like Poch and would have had him here a few years back but think that ship has sailed. ETH seems a better fit for us right now and his career is on the upwards trajectory which is a plus.

 

[ManchesterManchester]

He's becoming a right unbearable cnut.

Yeah and as soon as Poch will inevitably fail, Neville will be saying we should have gone for Ten Hag. He is just like the Man Utd hierarchy, he is totally stuck in the past

 

[Andycoleno9]

Some fans won't be happy until we cut all ties to the past and become another soulless club. It won't be long until they are calling for the renaming of the SAF and Charlton stands.

Yes, that is exactly what we must and should do (regarding job roles and especially around first team). We must hire people based on their skill and CV not based on what they did for United as players.

 

[United in sin]

He's becoming a right unbearable cnut.

How so in this case? He's named his preference and stated a fact

 

[VidaRed]

Its time bois.....

Spoiler

 

[United in sin]

Yes, that is exactly what we must and should do (regarding job roles and especially around first team). We must hire people based on their skill and CV not based on what they did for United as players.

This

 

[Idxomer]

How so in this case? He's named his preference and stated a fact

Yeah, nothing wrong with that tweet.