The last 10 years have taught me to always assume the worst in regards to the decision making in this club. I have utmost faith in our board's remarkable ability to feck this up. I'm not believing anything until I see signatures on papers.
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Its fascinating how many buzz words some deluded people can throw at us to justify how 'modern' and 'improved' our system had become and yet....these results are barely ever noticeable on the pitch. Apart from few outliners, all transfers made during Ole time were expensive shit, we still struggle to get rid of the deadwood, we couldn't even provide Rangnick with 1 player in January and its nearly April and we still have to announce our next manager. That doesn't sound like a well run club for me. And no 2 promotions in 6 months isn't normal.
But anyway back on the topic of 'process' with these interviews.
What exactly are they hoping to hear from Poch or Lopetegui that would convince them they're better picks over ETH, especially if ETH has supposedly impressed in his interview.
If Poch in his interview said "yeah I'll win us the league next season, turn Maguire into Maldini and Rashford will be scoring 30 goals" do they take it seriously? Interviews are mostly conjecture and exaggerated claims.
What exactly are they hoping to hear from Poch or Lopetegui that would convince them they're better picks over ETH, especially if ETH has supposedly impressed in his interview.
If Poch in his interview said "yeah I'll win us the league next season, turn Maguire into Maldini and Rashford will be scoring 30 goals" do they take it seriously? Interviews are mostly conjecture and exaggerated claims.
Sounds interesting
Maybe, but Butt actually had more direct/relatable experience for the role than Fletcher has
Eric Ten Hag
Ralf Rangnick
Rio Ferdinand
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
That's a team I could get behind like no other.
Ralf Rangnick
Rio Ferdinand
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
That's a team I could get behind like no other.
Moan just to moan.
Clueless
It’s weird we still want to interview Enrique when the rumours are he isn’t going to leave Spain until after the World Cup. Maybe that isn’t true? He’d be my choice as manager.
Rio has no place in that coaching setup. He has no qualifications or experience, and comes across as bit thick and impulsive. It needs to be ETH, his choice of assistant, and maybe someone like Stam, RVP or RVN - i.e. a young (preferably Dutch?) promising coach with actual coaching experience.
Ouch.
Funny how from excitement about ETH people quickly turned to bashing Fletcher. Vintage cafe.
Whether you want to believe it or not, having someone on the coaching staff who has insights into the club a manager from the outside doesn’t is useful.
Moan just to moan
Think ten Hag has become no1 target lately, as board is probably not impressed with Poch' PSG stint.
Enrique being a candidate probably because of that possibility of Rangnick staying as a manager for one more season. Won't happen probably though.
Enrique being a candidate probably because of that possibility of Rangnick staying as a manager for one more season. Won't happen probably though.
Eric - fine by me
Ralf - ok, hope he knows what he's doing outside the coaching departement.
Rio - stay in the punditry box
Ruud - are we even in good relations with him?
Ultimately, just let the manager pick his coaching staff.
Rio would get more out of Rashford, Sancho, Bruno, Maguire, Lindelof, AWB and Shaw than any professional "qualified" coach in world football.
Not bad for someone abit THICK yeah?
Getting Ragnick who will, I hope, step up to office once we get a new manager and no Woodward is a start. I dont think anyone thinks we're suddenly much better and improved but some positive things are happening. Its not easy to clear the deadwood just like that cause of big salaries.
I think we all are. I mean god forbid was we to lose him. Who would have a clue how to do his role.He would be a real forerunner in my mind if he was readily available. Would you still be open to his appointment if the club were willing to wait for him to complete his engagement with Spain?
This is just a sign of how badly run we are. The fact that simply having talks is all over the news. I remember when City announced Pep, yes everyone knew they wanted him, but no one knew the minute by minute details. Just one day the press new it was happening and City had to confirm it.
Why Rio?
Based on what exactly? How does someone who's never coached in his life and infamously come out with priceless snippets like "Ole at the wheel" become the man to get the best out of our players? A few of those players shouldn't even be at the club in the coming seasons, irrespective of who the coaches are.
It all depends if we are giving rangnick the power to change anything. Every thing seems so vague with United from Rangnick's consultancy job to what exactly phelan and Fletcher do. If Rangnick cannot figure their role then no redcafe 'expert' can
I don't get the interest with him. He did OK for a while with an already great team at Barca but nothing else of note. Not with Spain or the other clubs he's managed. I'd say he's not worth the wait.
OK? He won the treble with Barca.
Well you thought he's a sporting director so obviously you dont have a clue about his role. And many more things.
Assistant needs to be ex player? Can we please not post bullshit from unknown source?
Many others have done worse with better Barcelona squads. He was amazing at Barcelona. He also restored respect for Spain at national level. They were one of the best teams at the Euros last summer and outplayed Italy in the semifinals before losing on penalties
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I agree some of the players mentioned should be sold. Maguire and Lindelof wouldn't have got away with such criminal performances this long if Rio was there at the club. They'd either learn and improve or be got rid of sooner.
Ole did a job that was needed and everyone felt the same. Rio just did it on TV. A LOT of United fans wanted Ole to be given the job at that time. I wasn't one of them.
It takes more to win and get a winning mentality than football tactics or coaching alone.
I would bet big on Rio improving players mentality by being a part of the management team and being close to the players. His attitude towards football and being the best he could be was spot on. Professionally you can't say a bad word about him other than a missed drugs test.
His personality might not be to all fans tastes. But boo fecking who. We need people in there that can raise the levels and standards of our players. Rio can do that and if he's open to it we should take him up on the offer.
Beckham, Keane, Rio, Ruud, Stam, Van der Sar, Evra, Vidic, Scholes.... those mentality monsters we've had at the club are the ones that should have been involved over the years in different capacities. All would add a lot to the squad. There's a reason proper clubs like Barca, Bayern and Real involve their legends. We just chose the wrong ones so far.
Giggs has the morality of a turd and Carrick can't say boo to a goose. Let the real leaders in the door and see what happens.
Phelan's role has been in question ever since he was with Fergie.
As for other stuff I wouldn't make too much from Ragnick's comments about Fletcher and I agree I hope Ragnick will be given power to act, especially now he's get to know the squad 1st hand.
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Was it a team he created? After an overhaul?
It might not just be about deciding they're better bets than ETH.
Imagine Ten Hag absolutely bombs here and we're suddenly looking for another manager in 12-18 months time. At that point having put in the time to get a good idea of these other candidates' ideas may well stand the club in good stead. Especially as they would be unlikely to have the same time and space to conduct a similarly thorough process next time, as it was the unsual Rangnick appointment that bought them that.
With this being Murtough & Fletcher's first time having to appoint a manager, there's no harm in them using the time they have to build a clear picture of managers who may be candidates for the job in the future.
No more Dutch managers or ex-United assistant managers.
Some fans won't be happy until we cut all ties to the past and become another soulless club. It won't be long until they are calling for the renaming of the SAF and Charlton stands.
I think he could have a good World Cup with Spain especially if he keeps playing young players. But can't say I feel strongly enough to want him here at United in this current situation.
Ridiculous hyperbole
Or it is a sign of how irrelevant City is?
He's a great manager with a winning history at the highest levels, what in your mind actually disqualifies him? Is Ten Hag or someone else more uniquely suited to manage this united in it's current situation?
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