Is it just me who thinks he’s totally missed a w off that tweet…he means now favourite for the job surely.
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Is it just me who thinks he’s totally missed a w off that tweet…he means now favourite for the job surely.
Because ETH is massively respected and is quite widely considered the next big thing in management.
It’s been so long since I had a genuine conversation with anyone about Utd that didn’t involve some kind of self deprecation on my behalf or awkward pity on theirs.
So you’re saying there is light...???
Good post.
I agree, we should allow ten Hag to bring in whoever he likes. However, it has been rumoured that he only wishes to bring one staff member with him. Mitchell van der Gaag. In this scenario, a supplementary addition such as Van Persie, Stam etc would be ok I think.
This’ll be wrapped up before the end of the month, maybe not officially but to the point we all know it’s a done dealio.
It says we want to interview him though, so we clearly are being proactive. The biggest issue is that you basically sacrifice a summer transfer window if you're waiting for him to join after the world cup.
This United DNA thing needs to stop, this dressing room doesn't need uniting, the bulk of it needs binning off and players brought in who are united under the managers vision and are loyal to him, not their clique of buddies. At most I'd put someone like Mata or Matic on the coaching staff, has RvP done any coaching?
I think if the managerial boy wonder Nagelsmann hadn’t have been as good as he was for RB Leipzig, ETH would currently be at Bayern.
Personally, i am scared about info that under him all players are starting from zero and they all get a chance to prove themselves. I understand that regarding some players you can't be sure but overall, i was hoping that he will not waste time on lost causes and waste pre-season on evaluation (like LVG did).I agree too the Pep Guardiola is my idol is coming. Looking forward to a massive clearout
Stam yes two baldies. Is it right he'll bring just one mam with him? What about the current list of ex Molde/Sydney etc coaches we have.
Am I worrying for nothing as I thought we needed a coaching clear out also.
Am I worrying for nothing as I thought we needed a coaching clear out also.
Definitely a hipster choice just look at the forum in the lead up to announce him
Too much smoke at this point.
Can we stop with this ffs. Give your manager freedom to pick his own staff. Enough with United DNA nonsense and nepotism.
First of all the source is questionable mate.
And secondly, coaches like Guardiola, LVG, ten Hag etc, prefer having one person from within the club ih their backroom staff, because it helps them, and not because they're there to coach the players. Both Guardiola and LVG selected Hermann Gerland at Bayern for that exact reason.
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I don’t think it’s a big deal if it’s someone who is building himself up as a coach like Van Persie is doing now.
He'll be with Spain till December for sure. And we're not even sure if he will want to continue with Spain after that or look to manage in another league. Even though Enrique is in the shortlist, he's very much unattainable at the moment. I think he's the last option for us, after all else has failed.
If you were stepping into a job at a level you've never managed before, at a place with a toxic culture, wouldn't you want someone who's been there before, is respected by the staff and speaks your native tongue?
Managers deliver bad news to players on a daily basis, who do you think talks them round when they've been dropped?
I can’t see Ten Hag wanting Ferdinand as his assistant. What coaching credentials has he got? Plus, he gets paid more to talk nonsense on TV.
You’d be better off letting him choose his own assistants and get rid of whichever coaches he doesn’t want. I think one of his assistants now is one of Van Gaal’s video analysts who was with him at United. Can’t remember his name. For all Van Gaal’s faults, his staff were good. Hoek improved de Gea’s kicking, and Stuivenberg has had good jobs since and is doing well at Arsenal.
You’d be better off letting him choose his own assistants and get rid of whichever coaches he doesn’t want. I think one of his assistants now is one of Van Gaal’s video analysts who was with him at United. Can’t remember his name. For all Van Gaal’s faults, his staff were good. Hoek improved de Gea’s kicking, and Stuivenberg has had good jobs since and is doing well at Arsenal.
Surely the player thing is saying we'd basically be replacing Phelan as the 'bring the lads together manager'?
At least Ruud and van Persie have coaching experience.
At least Ruud and van Persie have coaching experience.
Firstly what is wrong with bringing former players onto the coaching staff? Bayern, Barca & Ajax do it.
RVP works for Feyernoord as an assistant manager for the youth and 1st team technical coach.
RVN works for PSV is the B teams head coach & Dutch National team assistant under LVG.
If they share the same philosophy with the manager what's the problem?
The fact the rumours of ETH only wanting 1 assistant to join him means we still have to recruit & replace them all as RR's teams deal finishes in the summer.
So before the interview most people saw him as the favourite. After his interview, we're now briefing there is no favourite.
Should I be worried
Should I be worried
What are you doing here with that much sense?
Nepotism FC!
I do think it's important we have someone who knows the club within the coaching staff still. They will be a big help.
Expecting a bunch of Red Bull's lads to come in as coaches in the summer also.
The seemingly forced assistant manager choice isn’t too much a deal. As it’s been said before, managers seem to like to involve someone who has close links to the club when they themselves aren’t. Sir Alex had Brian Kidd as his assistant manager for the 90s. I think Guardiola still keeps Brian Kidd hidden somewhere in the City setup to this day.
I’d worry if we dictated the entire staff to ETH. He’ll probably bring 1-2 of his guys over and now we have Murtough, Fletcher, whoever this Deputy Football Director is and Ralf as a consultant, he’ll be well suited to the role and he’ll have a structure of support.
It won’t be him and fecking Ed Woodward running everything like it would have been 3 years ago or something.
I’d worry if we dictated the entire staff to ETH. He’ll probably bring 1-2 of his guys over and now we have Murtough, Fletcher, whoever this Deputy Football Director is and Ralf as a consultant, he’ll be well suited to the role and he’ll have a structure of support.
It won’t be him and fecking Ed Woodward running everything like it would have been 3 years ago or something.
Maybe I'm just cynical mate but given how rotten the club is I'm not keen on inside influence in the mix, especially the British players with academy history, nobody that will push Ten Hag towards Maguire, McTominay or Rashford as key players, that's why Mata or Matic would be my preferred choices if it has to happen.
I don't think you need coaching credentials to Unite a dressing room. The report itself is from a highly questionable source.
And the name you're looking for is Max Reckers, who was our video analyst under LVG.
Madness isn't it? We need a coach at the club who at least know's the club
I can't see Rio being up for an assistant coaching position. He has way too many things going on with his media jobs, other business ventures etc to be committed to a job that requires a shit ton of work for relatively far less pay. It'll likely be Phelan being retained or someone like Fletcher doing a dual job like he is doing now.
It's bringing our former players in specifically that I have an issue with, not the general concept, as I don't think any good has come from the involvement of Giggs, Carrick and Fletcher over the last decade, and the likes of Neville and Scholes haven't shone in the media coverage of our club either.
Ok maybe it would be fine if they have credentials. Just as long as it isn't CO92.
I don't hate the idea of van Persie being assistant coach tbh. He seems fairly intelligent, has coaching experience, is Dutch and is a premier league icon who you'd hope would be respected. His links to the club aren't so strong that he'd just pander to the players nor would it feel like another 'jobs for the boys' type scenario. Rio would be a stupid idea.
As long as he's allowed to bring in his no.2 from Ajax, then I can get behind RVP as one of the other assistants.
As long as he's allowed to bring in his no.2 from Ajax, then I can get behind RVP as one of the other assistants.
Nothing seems imminent though which js annoying because it gives them more time to mess it up. Still got a horrible sinking feeling it will be Pochettino
I think what will happen mate, is that the new manager will select one person from the club to assist him and guide him regarding the youth at the club etc. That is one of the biggest reasons LVG and Guardiola selected Hermann Gerland at Bayern due to his extensive knowledge of the club. The new guy will also bring in his own people.
So before the interview most people saw him as the favourite. After his interview, we're now briefing there is no favourite.
Should I be worried
Not worried, no. ETH is obviously in the running, but they seem to want to follow a proper process, so he's just one of four possible candidates at this stage.
Let alone the fact that Rio comes across as incredibly dumb.
Why dont you just say you have an issue with ex British players?
Didnt know Andy Mitten is an author of 11 books.
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