Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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I don’t need Social media to form opinions thanks. This club was in the mud a good while before all these fan channels popped up.

If you have a more positive view of the club going forward, I’m happy for you.
Not really, I just reject this notion that a manager is hamstrung on whom to play (unless its Ronaldo).

Rangnick himself has dropped Rashford for quite a few games and you're somewhat thinking managers are forced play him (weird).
 
Not really, I just reject this notion that a manager is hamstrung on whom to play (unless its Ronaldo).

Rangnick himself has dropped Rashford for quite a few games and you're somewhat thinking managers are forced play him (weird).

He has dropped him yes but only after he became so inexplicably bad that it was for everyone’s benefit. It’s just my opinion of course and if you think it is weird that is your choice, I respect that.

Also I do believe other players besides Ronaldo are almost guaranteed to play unless they drop to such a poor level. Others will also stay in the squad because they are overpaid and selling them would prove a financial disaster based on the ridiculous fees we paid for them in the first place. We will no doubt hear the usual - players must leave first before signings can be made - thus the new manager will be hamstrung from the beginning. Again my opinion.
 
The fact Woodward has gone and he ran everything means we have to give the board a clean slate at least until the new season starts. He was a dictator and everyone else could have said the opposite and he still did it his way for all we know
Absolutely not, no one gets a pass or a clean slate. By all accounts it was Woodward and one of the Glazers making those crappy decisions. Think Joel. Probably even how he stayed in the job so long. They knew he was one with them. I don't know how said Glazer got to hide behind Woodward for this long.
 
He has dropped him yes but only after he became so inexplicably bad that it was for everyone’s benefit. It’s just my opinion of course and if you think it is weird that is your choice, I respect that.

Also I do believe other players besides Ronaldo are almost guaranteed to play unless they drop to such a poor level. Others will also stay in the squad because they are overpaid and selling them would prove a financial disaster based on the ridiculous fees we paid for them in the first place. We will no doubt hear the usual - players must leave first before signings can be made - thus the new manager will be hamstrung from the beginning. Again my opinion.
I see where you are coming from, but Rashford I think was dropped early on and Rangnick had no problems dropping Maguire before Lindelof caught covid.

Before that Ole had an extended period not playing Pogba before Raiola piped up with his eve of Champions League blast. Mourinho had no problems benching one of Rashford and Martial almost throughout and Pogba was extensively benched too.

I don't think managers are overriden in team selection.
 
Absolutely not, no one gets a pass or a clean slate. By all accounts it was Woodward and one of the Glazers making those crappy decisions. Think Joel. Probably even how he stayed in the job so long. They knew he was one with them. I don't know how said Glazer got to hide behind Woodward for this long.
Joel just signs off on club decisions. They trusted Woodward with running the club.
 
I don't really get the anti-Ancelotti stuff to be honest. I can only imagine the people slating the idea haven't read the article:



This is how the article opens for what it's worth, surely there can't be too many better 4th or 5th choice options than Ancelotti?

Why bother when Rangnick is in the door already? Give him another year if you are going to wait (though I don’t see the point unless you’re guaranteed someone top and an agreement is signed).
 
I don't know that I think he has the job, but if/when he did have the job then that is very much how we'd handle it I think. It's been reported a few times that we have a particularly good relationship with Ajax as a club and I'm sure we'd be very concious not to destabalise their season in our approach.
Oh best believe we'll be tweeting ten Hag pictures every 5 minutes if we draw them in the CL.
 
ETH makes far too much sense, you just know we are going to feck this up and appoint Pochettino.
 
If Ten Hag does get the job then do we have to say fair fecks to the board for once? “Rangnick until the summer, then Ten Hag” was what most of us on here were asking for as soon as Ole left, but decided the board probably had no idea who either of them were.
Have to agree with. Let's just hope the hierarchy are reading from the same hymn book!
 
Would give my left nut for ETH and a green light for a clear out
 
I don't really get the anti-Ancelotti stuff to be honest. I can only imagine the people slating the idea haven't read the article:



This is how the article opens for what it's worth, surely there can't be too many better 4th or 5th choice options than Ancelotti?
I don’t understand that logic though. If you don’t get your main targets just let Ralf stay on. Would be absolutely bizzare if we got rid of him for another “temp”
 
The fact Woodward has gone and he ran everything means we have to give the board a clean slate at least until the new season starts. He was a dictator and everyone else could have said the opposite and he still did it his way for all we know
Having the final say on things doesn’t mean he did everything. He learned to delegate more toward the end of his tenure.
 
Ancelotti being mentioned as a possible alternative and SAF recommendation, is bloody absurd.

What the club needs before a new manager, is a new owner and proper footballing people, making the decisions.

This current club is just pathetic
 
Ancelotti being mentioned as a possible alternative and SAF recommendation, is bloody absurd.

What the club needs before a new manager, is a new owner and proper footballing people, making the decisions.

This current club is just pathetic

He’s like flipping choice number 4. Give it a rest and stop overreacting.
 
ETH is the overwhelming choice here.


Can't think of a better or more suited choice. Totally what we need and a manager still fresh and hungry to win trophies.
 
I don’t understand that logic though. If you don’t get your main targets just let Ralf stay on. Would be absolutely bizzare if we got rid of him for another “temp”
Well because if Ralf is to move upstairs, as appears to be the plan, then you'd imagine he would be in agreement with the appointment and Ancelotti would hardly be a "temp" - he's a manager that would easily do 2/3 years and has shown himself very adaptable to different styles over a long career based on the players at the club he walks into. He wouldn't be my first pick by any means but if picks 1,2,3 etc weren't available I don't see it as a disaster.
 
Well because if Ralf is to move upstairs, as appears to be the plan, then you'd imagine he would be in agreement with the appointment and Ancelotti would hardly be a "temp" - he's a manager that would easily do 2/3 years and has shown himself very adaptable to different styles over a long career based on the players at the club he walks into. He wouldn't be my first pick by any means but if picks 1,2,3 etc weren't available I don't see it as a disaster.
Why is it assumed Ralf would move upstairs? Surely he’s the best option if we can’t get the main targets. Fairly sure he would agree/be open to it also.
 
Why is it assumed Ralf would move upstairs? Surely he’s the best option if we can’t get the main targets. Fairly sure he would agree/be open to it also.
Well because that's we said would happen when he got the job.
 
Latest odds (Paddy Power)

Pochettino Evens
Ten Hag 9/4
Conte 5/1
Rangnick 6/1
Simeone 12/1
Ancelotte 14/1
 
He’s like flipping choice number 4. Give it a rest and stop overreacting.

Overreacting?

Yesterday he was all the press talked about if we didn't sign Poch.

Please explain how appointing this dinosaur is a forward step for this club?
 
Overreacting?

Yesterday he was all the press talked about if we didn't sign Poch.

Please explain how appointing this dinosaur is a forward step for this club?
Dinosaur is harsh, he’s a very good coach. But you are right, it wouldn’t be a great appointment as it would be very short term thinking and we need to build long term to ensure continued future success.
I’d like to think it Ralf is involved in the decision as a club builder he will advise against such an appointment. I’d also assume the SAF links are rehashed old news as Ancelloti was on the list when Sir Alex retired. Add that to the news he will be replaced in Madrid and come up with 57.
 
Praying the board finally do something right and bring in Ten Hag. I'm on me knees...
 
What do people think of the possibility of a really left-field manager appointment?

Someone not being talked about in the current climate but someone that Rangnick recommends based on what he has seen from our crop of players.
 
What do people think of the possibility of a really left-field manager appointment?

Someone not being talked about in the current climate but someone that Rangnick recommends based on what he has seen from our crop of players.
I'm just going to have to trust their judgement. As long as they're going to bring in an attacking, entertaining philosophy and give youth a chance then I'll be okay with it.
 
Overreacting?

Yesterday he was all the press talked about if we didn't sign Poch.

Please explain how appointing this dinosaur is a forward step for this club?

Did you read the articles? As I didn’t.

So please highlight the bits where it says if we don’t get Poch we will go for Don Carlo next and by all means I will apologise.
 
Ancelott would be a very underwhelming back up option in the event where we can't get either Ten Hag or Pochettino. His last three jobs at Bayern, Napoli and Everton were all disappointing. I remember it being reported that the Bayern players were especially underwhelmed by his tactics and coaching.

He's a legendary manager, but he's years past his peak. Also, he's very much the sort of manager who is more concerned about instilling the right attitude amongst his players. Tactics aren't as high a priority for him. This is exactly the sort of manager we should not be looking for. We need someone to continue and improve upon Rangnicks work.
 
Given how our history has been, I think we'll get ETH and he'll suck. Be it a manager or a player, we become so fixated that one person is going to become our saviour that all notions of reality are suspended.

So the people who are willing to part ways with their genitalia for us to sign Ten Hag, my humble request is to hold your horses.
 
Given how our history has been, I think we'll get ETH and he'll suck. Be it a manager or a player, we become so fixated that one person is going to become our saviour that all notions of reality are suspended.

So the people who are willing to part ways with their genitalia for us to sign Ten Hag, my humble request is to hold your horses.
The fixation isn't just on one person though is it?

The whole point of hiring Rangnick was to help out with this sort of thing with the managerial search and eventually upstairs after his interim stint is done. Any excitement would be due to the club finally putting football people who know what they're doing for a change in decision making positions rather than Ed fecking Woodward...
 
I fear we will go through the same destructive cycle of hiring somebody and then not giving them free reign to build the squad they want and sell the players that need selling, forcing them to make do with the existing roster of mediocrity, churn out average performances, and invariably be sacked after 2 and half years.

I would personally sell at least half of the squad tomorrow, Maguire and Rashford included.
 
I think the appointment of RR, with the promise/potential (whatever it was) of him moving into an advisory role at the end of the season, has indicated a shift away from the recruitment and oversight of player/staff acquisition we saw under Woodward. RR seems like an honest man, and I doubt he would have taken the role under the Woodward regime (I know Woodward was in charge but changes were clearly afoot). If RR does indeed move upstairs, then perhaps ETH is a very real possibility as I think he would be destined to fail under Woodward, but could flourish under RR.
 
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