Might aswell.. we don’t have standards here. I wouldn’t be bothered.
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Might aswell.. we don’t have standards here. I wouldn’t be bothered.
This I agree with with 100% but I'm just not quite sure labeling Conte as knee jerk is true. I guess we will find out soon enough. He has never been my first choice either way but imo on the contract he was given it would have been an upgrade on Ole and then depending on how things went we could have parted ways with him relatively easily either way as at the end of the season he would only have 1 year left.
I have a strong feeling the board is out for Poch.
On the contrary I guess as reports claimed that He is the one who’s not interested in us.
Any change for the sake of change is a knee jerk. If we get rid of Ole it must be a well considered choice and not just the best easily available now.
That first sentence doesn't make sense. Change for the sake of change? We are talking about getting rid of a serial underperformer who's previous clubs improved after he was removed. It's been three years, there is no "knee jerk" decision. I can't believe someone thinks removing ole would be considered knee jerk. Spurs decision was knee jerk. Ours is three years in the making but fans like you and our board believe three years is somehow not long enough. I don't understand, it's like you guys want to suck.
And people talking about Zidane seem to miss that he is a surprisingly similar manager to Ole as a manager, albeit one who is much better at tactical substitutions.
3 Champions League’s. Explain the similarities my g.
How's that then? Zidane is a multiple CL and league title winner, Ole is not. Unless you seriously count the Tippeligaen.
While we're at it, Ole is surprisingly similar to Pep and Klopp as well, albeit one who has much less trophies, tactical nous and coaching ability.
He won 3 ucls and you think he's similar to ole?
Might be the worst comparison I heard since our board said ten hag was like moyes
The comparison is a massive insult to Zidane.
He is in another universe compared to Ole as a manager.
Give it Zidane till the end of the season
Andre Villas Boas wasn't doing badly with Marseille and would be gettable on an interim basis.
Removing Ole for just whoever is available is obviously a silly knee jerk reaction. As opposed to a planned carefully considered change.
Half the posters on here are so hysterical about replacing Ole by Thursday that they want any change because they think anyone is better than Ole. Which is obviously a very silly thing to do. It happens so often in football and is almost universally a disaster that I can't believe people want it to happen to United again.
I hope not.
If Zidane had just won 1 Champions League, I think you’d have a point in that he may not be good since that squad was super loaded with exceptional players and it’s hard to fail with that much quality.
But 3 in a row isn’t a fluke by any means. Some great managers couldn’t even retain it, let alone win it 3 times in a row.
But 3 in a row isn’t a fluke by any means. Some great managers couldn’t even retain it, let alone win it 3 times in a row.
There's an in-between. Whether that means an interim manager or getting in more experience to the coaching staff. Seems to me a lot more preferable than doing nothing.
Don't be soppy. He has a very similar management style to Ole and is tactically meh. He subs well but he did have an even better pool of players to work with at Madrid.
You think hiring a serial winner would have been a silly knee jerk reaction? That's a horrible and completely uninformed take. The only reason it would be knee jerk is because our board and fan base are so inept that they didn't plan for Ole being terrible for the third season running.
Coaches of the quality we want won't take an interim appointment. Why would they?
We could get Giggs back for a while if we want an interim.
I doubt he will be going anywhere at present. Summer 2022 more likely than winter 2021
But yeah, money talks
Not being mentioned and often rarely ever thought about. But would United fans here take Ernesto Valverde at the helm? Ten hag and Pochettino are preferably the best choices out there and seriously should be the ones eligible for the job.
I'm not talking the most sought after coaches in the game, but experienced coaches. I don't think it would be that difficult.
If they are a manager who wouldn't suit us then the reason for change is primarily driven by hysteria about Ole. And the hysteria of many fans might well pushing the idiots in charge to made a crap change.
The idea that Ole has been terrible for 3 seasons is ludicrous. We finished second last year which is a huge upgrade. It isn't that I don't think we could do better but when we change it needs to be the right change.
Tactically meh doesn't win 3 straight champion league titles with a league title in between and pushing a peak MSN Barcelona all the way until the end whilst coming in mid-season.
It is a stupid suggestion.
He left(with Ronaldo) and Real looked awful. He came back with no Ronaldo and led Real to their best defensive record in years while securing the La Liga title. The following season, he led Real to the semi-finals of the CL and pushed Atletico all the way while dealing with a massive injury crisis.
His in-game adjustments are incredible and has won numerous CL ties while doing so.
Zidane isn't the only manager who's managed a great pool of players. We have that right now and Ole looks clueless managing them.
You can prefer other managers to Zidane(I prefer Ten Hag over him), but the constant disrespect he gets on here is mind-boggling. If Ole achieved what Zidane achieved, posters here would erect statues of Ole outside their own homes.
Putting a traffic cone instead of Ole is an upgrade at this point.
Caretaker rest of the year and then get who we want at the end of it.
Not that hard to work out.
Tonight should have been another nail in the coffin but Ole fans will no doubt claim that a spawny draw away against a 2nd rate Italian side is progress . I despair
Why some mention Pochettino? PSG sticks with him still!
Yeah I can't discuss anything with someone who think complaining about our manager is "hysteria". This is why the club deserves Ole. Fans like you who lower expectations because they're afraid of the future.
It does with the squad he had and he relied on no particular tactical philosophy and good man management (like Ole). He uses subs much better than Ole but also had a far better squad especially in terms of strength in depth. I'm not saying he would be terrible I like him personally and I and may be very successful but I'm not convinced he is the manager for United when what he brings hasn't worked that well here.
Far better choice than Conte of course. Ten Hag has done nothing to suggest he would be suited to United imo. Pochettino is probably the best choice of he is in fact available given managers like Klopp and Guardiola aren't available and Klopp would be an almost impossible appointment even if he were available.
Changing manager for the sake of making ANY change is driven by hysteria. If you replace your manager you want to upgrade in a carefully considered way.
Criticising the manager is fine and in most cases justified. The manner of criticism in here is however often very hysterical. So bad that the hysteria in this forum could be bottled and sold. Many posts and posters are simply an embarrassment.
100% correct but is our board capable of this mate?
100% correct but is our board capable of this mate?
Probably not based on past evidence. But you can hope.
No one had won the Champions League back to back before Zidane
He's a bit of a twat and he'd be a dead man walking from Day 1.
I don't think he's good enough to win titles but I don't think he'd get the chance. The first sign of trouble and the crowd would be on his back because of the aforementioned twatishness and the scouse connection.
Ronaldo as player caretaker manager?
Personally think your way of thinking is the embarrassing way but okay.
Nice line in schoolyard debate. Is your dad bigger than my Dad as well?
You literally did it first? But no, my dad's a midget.
Huh? I justified/explained everything I posted. You just responded to me saying many hysterical posts are embarrassing by saying "no you are embarrassing". Which is a childish schoolyard response personified.
Uncles are where it's at.
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