Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
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It does with the squad he had and he relied on no particular tactical philosophy and good man management (like Ole). He uses subs much better than Ole but also had a far better squad especially in terms of strength in depth. I'm not saying he would be terrible I like him personally and I and may be very successful but I'm not convinced he is the manager for United when what he brings hasn't worked that well here.

Far better choice than Conte of course. Ten Hag has done nothing to suggest he would be suited to United imo. Pochettino is probably the best choice of he is in fact available given managers like Klopp and Guardiola aren't available and Klopp would be an almost impossible appointment even if he were available.
Pep hasn't won a champions league in 10 years despite having some of the best squads in football. It's not easy to win 1 champions league, never mind 3 on the bounce, and another semi-final in that time. And add to that 2 league titles in 4 full seasons.

There seems to be this idea that if a team isn't pressing high Pep or Klopp style then they don't have any tactics... A coach is doing a good job if he is getting the team performing consistently as a cohesive unit in and out of possession, and Zidane has done that.

In 3 years Ole has built a team that looks Sunday league standard in all facets of the game, defensive organisation is poor, passing is poor, building from the back is poor, pressing is poor, attacking patterns are poor. I think we'd be shocked what a competent manager like Conte or Zidane could do with a team like this, particularly if we give them a transfer window to complete the team.
 
Honestly, this slow and measured nonsense needs to die.

Football nowadays just doesn't work this way and even if it did at some clubs, United have shown with the OGS debacle they cannot do it well.

Enough of hoping for the best, let's go for good or excellent and we might end up with a trophy or two or even a Klopp at some point.
 
There seems to be this idea that if a team isn't pressing high Pep or Klopp style then they don't have any tactics... A coach is doing a good job if he is getting the team performing consistently as a cohesive unit in and out of possession, and Zidane has done that.

I don't think Zidane would be a disaster and may do very well. However, he would do it using many of the same ways and methods that Ole gets so slagged for and like Ole he doesn't really have a tactical philosophy (for want of a better term). My main point is that many of the most emotional "ole out" posters don't have a clue what they want, or would get with any particular change.
 
Huh? I justified/explained everything I posted. You just responded to me saying many hysterical posts are embarrassing by saying "no you are embarrassing". Which is a childish schoolyard response personified.

Calling someone embarrassing at the end of your post is literally doing the same thing I did. I've explained why I think your thought process is boomer ideology, so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Have fun with Ole, we'll be stuck with him for the season sadly.
 
Calling someone embarrassing at the end of your post is literally doing the same thing I did. I've explained why I think your thought process is boomer ideology, so I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Have fun with Ole, we'll be stuck with him for the season sadly.

I called posters making hysterical posts embarrassing. Which it is. The modmins collectively cringe when we have to go into the United forum. It isn't about thinking ole is great.

When people start calling Ole a PE teacher or a fraud you know rational though has long since gone.
 
Is any of the option mentioned are available realistically right now?
 
If they are a manager who wouldn't suit us then the reason for change is primarily driven by hysteria about Ole. And the hysteria of many fans might well pushing the idiots in charge to made a crap change.

The idea that Ole has been terrible for 3 seasons is ludicrous. We finished second last year which is a huge upgrade. It isn't that I don't think we could do better but when we change it needs to be the right change.
I often wonder why I still see people post this. Suit us? What suits us exactly? Genuine question because United Way, City Way, Liverpool Way, there's no such thing. Each manager who's brought in has his own philosophy of playing the game.

I won't call people complaining in the forum as hysteria. This club has long enough underachieved. In fact its been doing so for the past 10 years while our chief rivals have remained strong competitors in every competition. As a club we should be looking to the best possible personnel to drive this club forward. Anyone who says Ole, McKenna and Carrick fit that bill is on some serious meds or not all their dogs are barking.
Hysteria can be characterized as passionate fans who care for the future of the club. I've been supporting United for 30+ years and I'm still around but definitely not happy with the club's current direction under Ole.

If fans want to vent, let them. Each individual has his/her own way of dealing with disappointments when it comes to United.
 
I often wonder why I still see people post this. Suit us? What suits us exactly? Genuine question because United Way, City Way, Liverpool Way, there's no such thing. Each manager who's brought in has his own philosophy of playing the game.

Well I'd have though bringing in 3 or possibly 4 managers since SAF who fairly obviously didn't suit United would be a bit of a clue as to what constitutes unsuitable. Conte would have been another unsuitable appointment and fairly obviously so. Rogers is anther obviously unsuitable option.

I won't call people complaining in the forum as hysteria.

It is not hysteria to have complaints. But it is hysterical to express them in a ludicrously dramatic way many have been doing so.

If fans want to vent, let them. Each individual has his/her own way of dealing with disappointments when it comes to United.

Shame they have to embarrass the rest of us by association while doing so.
 
Well I'd have though bringing in 3 or possibly 4 managers since SAF who fairly obviously didn't suit United would be a bit of a clue as to what constitutes unsuitable. Conte would have been another unsuitable appointment and fairly obviously so. Rogers is anther obviously unsuitable option.



It is not hysteria to have complaints. But it is hysterical to express them in a ludicrously dramatic way many have been doing so.



Shame they have to embarrass the rest of us by association while doing so.

You literally didn't answer his first question. Name a single manager that "suits us" please. You keep saying none of our previous ones did but haven't given names of ones who do. Also not sure how Conte doesn't suit us and why you think moyes didn't when he was literally hand picked by the one man who knew us the best.
 
I can't help thinking that the Board are looking at Simeone
 
You literally didn't answer his first question. Name a single manager that "suits us" please. You keep saying none of our previous ones did but haven't given names of ones who do. Also not sure how Conte doesn't suit us and why you think moyes didn't when he was literally hand picked by the one man who knew us the best.

Moyes didn't suit us at all because he wasn't a very good manager and was a rabbit in the headlights when appointed, no matter by who. Conte doesn't play very attractive football and would flounce out after 2 years like he always does.

Klopp - not available and impossible due to being Liverpool manager
Pochettino - probably the best choice if available
Zidane - best of the rest probably
 
Let me first state that the moment SAF retired i was looking and following top managers to see who will suit it the best.


Currently there is like exactly 5 top managers in the world - Klopp, Guardiola, Conte, Simeone and maybe we can count Tuchel to them. Like them or not, this is a proven winner managers. Klopp no doubt is the very best out of them.
Guardiola is operating with tons of money, otherwise count him out, and even with all the money and the way superior squad and all the support he had(his place is never even questioned, so no pressure at all at him), he can't win the CL since Barcelona. And their both CL was due to referee, reference Chelsea, Arsenal.
Simeone is a very defensive type, but he is a proven world class manager that can operate and can handle with not so much money, and can sell/buy players to navigate his team to the top table. One very important thing, that just a very few manager can do is to build a team from the scratch, and he definitely can.
Tuchel last year and this year so far with Chelsea is showing great stuffs. I include him in the last, because of his recent and last year performance.
And the only guy that was available, and so many people as well as our board was against him, for no obvious reason - Antonio Conte.


He is the guy that can make a team that looks terrible to play at top level and win trophies. Proven that with 3 different team. He can build from the scratch and create insanely dangerous team, without having the money or players like Guardiola for example. With his charisma he is making average players, play like a top level ones. But this is just words of a newbie, let me use concrete facts and bust some myths:



The comparison with Jose Mourinho. Whoever make such comparison obviously know very little about football, or just not follow Conte career and style. Firstable with Jose the blame is always on someone else, as far as Conte if the result is bad, he always take the blame.


Style wise they are have nothing in common. Some people on here are saying Conte is playing ugly football, not scoring much goals, not exciting, and all that kind of stuff. Yet this cannot be more far from the true.


A very simple statistics of season 2016-2017.
Chelsea finished 10 in the previous season and no one was giving them chance for anything, and people were saying their squad is washed and done.


Klopp was already at Liverpool for 6 months, City brought Guardiola and was making transfer even before he was appointed with his approval and for his style. And we brought Jose Mourinho with plenty of cash spend before him come, and he also spend plenty of cash.
Chelsea definitely had the worst chances, and people wasn't even bringing them for the top 4 conversation.
He didn't get the player he wanted from the get going, with the exception of Kante and Alonso, which turns out to be a key part of his team build.
He transform them and won the title, while there was team that was in way better position to get it.


Why i bring this ? It's simple.
Guardiola team scored 80 goals and finished 3rd, and Guardiola was awarded with 270mln.
Liverpool scored 78 goals and finished 4th.
We finished 6th and scored just 54 goals. Mourinho then was awarded 200mln. And just to remember he spend like 200mln. And he spend 200mln. when he comes as well.
Chelsea's Conte scored 85 goals, and obviously finished 1st. Only Tottenham scored 1 more goal, and that was due to their last bouts was against relegated team that fought for nothing, and they scored like 20 goals in 4-5 matches.
How is average of 2.23 goals is a bad and defensive football is beyond me, not to mention he managed to outscore the most attacking minded coaches like Guardiola and Klopp.
But let see his seasons at Inter. 81 goals in his first season, and 89 goals(2.34 per match) in his second one in a very tight defensive Serie A. The only team that scored more was Atalanta, and they are highly attacking team, and scored just 1 goal more, but received 47, compare to Inter's 35. Not a comparison at all.


Conte team has a clear and a visible style, unlike what we have now, or what we have under any manager post SAF. His teams are well organized and know exactly well how to organize their attack, and what to do in every second. And while he is very adaptive, he is still using the same style, even when he needs to adapt when he is to face a way better opposition.

And another great thing in him is his transfer. He knows exactly what position and what player he needs.
Kante is a player he wanted, and we all know how that plays out. In Inter he brought players like Hakimi for 40mln., and in 2 years time they sold him for 71mln. Lukaku for 80mln. then sold for 115mln. Not to mention how he turns Inter players around and make a complete jobbers to looks like top levels players. He also can develop great players.
He build Juventus from scratches and make them hegemon in Italy. Develop tons of great players in there, and they later sell them for tons of money.
Here is the facts:

When he took charge in Juventus they were 7th in the league. He made them champions 3 time in a row.
When he took charge in Chelsea, they were 10th in the league. He made them champions straight away.
When he took charge in Inter, they were 4th, 21 points away from the 1st. He finished second just 1 point behind, and next season he made them Champions with 12 points clear lead.
Before he took charge in Juventus, he managed to win Serie B with Bari, and also win a promotion for Siena.

That clearly speaks for itself that he is proven at all levels, and can build team from scratches.

As far as the fallouts with some of the boards i will speak later on this one, cause my post is already too big. I will just say that in the current football, there is no such thing as long term manager or players. It's actually good to refresh the squad in 3-4 years time, cause the current primadonas lose motivation very fast and it's hard to squeeze the best from them any longer.
 
What do the Ligue 1 watchers think of Galtier? 3 Manager of the year trophies in 9 years, won the league with Lille and developed young players. If we got him this summer and he kept his 4-4-2:

----------Ronaldo(Yilkmaz)-Bruno/Greenwood/Rashford(David)
Sancho(Bamba)------------------------------------RW(Ikone)

so he'd have to move one of Greenwood or Rashford to the wing (which in a 4-4-2 seems dicey defensively but gets our best players on the pitch and I don't think Ikone or Bamba are exactly Mauro Camoranesi defensively on the wing) or throw Diallo in I suppose if he wanted a more orthodox winger.

He plays a double pivot but one more attacking than the other, but I imagin he might want 2 new central mids.

Left back pushed up more than RB which suits us with Shaw and Wan-Bissaka and Maguire is like a 37 year old Fonte.
 
I am amazed how fecked we actually looks right now. We have, once more, put ourself in a situation where there is no good alternatives left.

We will end up with Rodgers or a caretaker (probably someone at the club like Phelan or Fletcher) when they eventually understand this can not go on.
 
Moyes didn't suit us at all because he wasn't a very good manager and was a rabbit in the headlights when appointed, no matter by who. Conte doesn't play very attractive football and would flounce out after 2 years like he always does.

Klopp - not available and impossible due to being Liverpool manager
Pochettino - probably the best choice if available
Zidane - best of the rest probably
Poch would be great to be honest but not sure when he'll be available.
I'm all for giving youth a chance and Poch is the guy to do that.

Some members can be a bit much but it's OK if people show frustration, but obviously within the rules of the forum.
Fans will be on edge looking at our current situation and you have to understand they may be fed up and had enough of the club underachieving.
I don't condone disrespectful behavior to fellow forum members but If some are harsh towards Ole its because they're judging him as manager and not Ole the Umited player.
We have to separate the two.

And I agree with you we need to take our time to appoint new manager. If that means waiting until summer to do it then so be it. I'm prepared to sit through through season with Ole and get quality replacement.
I've accepted our current situation won't change anytime soon i and hope others do the same.
 
How nice would it be if we negotiated deals for Ten Hag & Van der Sar to replace Ole & Woodward at the end of the season.

One can only dream...
 
Let me first state that the moment SAF retired i was looking and following top managers to see who will suit it the best.


Currently there is like exactly 5 top managers in the world - Klopp, Guardiola, Conte, Simeone and maybe we can count Tuchel to them. Like them or not, this is a proven winner managers. Klopp no doubt is the very best out of them.
Guardiola is operating with tons of money, otherwise count him out, and even with all the money and the way superior squad and all the support he had(his place is never even questioned, so no pressure at all at him), he can't win the CL since Barcelona. And their both CL was due to referee, reference Chelsea, Arsenal.
Simeone is a very defensive type, but he is a proven world class manager that can operate and can handle with not so much money, and can sell/buy players to navigate his team to the top table. One very important thing, that just a very few manager can do is to build a team from the scratch, and he definitely can.
Tuchel last year and this year so far with Chelsea is showing great stuffs. I include him in the last, because of his recent and last year performance.
And the only guy that was available, and so many people as well as our board was against him, for no obvious reason - Antonio Conte.


He is the guy that can make a team that looks terrible to play at top level and win trophies. Proven that with 3 different team. He can build from the scratch and create insanely dangerous team, without having the money or players like Guardiola for example. With his charisma he is making average players, play like a top level ones. But this is just words of a newbie, let me use concrete facts and bust some myths:



The comparison with Jose Mourinho. Whoever make such comparison obviously know very little about football, or just not follow Conte career and style. Firstable with Jose the blame is always on someone else, as far as Conte if the result is bad, he always take the blame.


Style wise they are have nothing in common. Some people on here are saying Conte is playing ugly football, not scoring much goals, not exciting, and all that kind of stuff. Yet this cannot be more far from the true.


A very simple statistics of season 2016-2017.
Chelsea finished 10 in the previous season and no one was giving them chance for anything, and people were saying their squad is washed and done.


Klopp was already at Liverpool for 6 months, City brought Guardiola and was making transfer even before he was appointed with his approval and for his style. And we brought Jose Mourinho with plenty of cash spend before him come, and he also spend plenty of cash.
Chelsea definitely had the worst chances, and people wasn't even bringing them for the top 4 conversation.
He didn't get the player he wanted from the get going, with the exception of Kante and Alonso, which turns out to be a key part of his team build.
He transform them and won the title, while there was team that was in way better position to get it.


Why i bring this ? It's simple.
Guardiola team scored 80 goals and finished 3rd, and Guardiola was awarded with 270mln.
Liverpool scored 78 goals and finished 4th.
We finished 6th and scored just 54 goals. Mourinho then was awarded 200mln. And just to remember he spend like 200mln. And he spend 200mln. when he comes as well.
Chelsea's Conte scored 85 goals, and obviously finished 1st. Only Tottenham scored 1 more goal, and that was due to their last bouts was against relegated team that fought for nothing, and they scored like 20 goals in 4-5 matches.
How is average of 2.23 goals is a bad and defensive football is beyond me, not to mention he managed to outscore the most attacking minded coaches like Guardiola and Klopp.
But let see his seasons at Inter. 81 goals in his first season, and 89 goals(2.34 per match) in his second one in a very tight defensive Serie A. The only team that scored more was Atalanta, and they are highly attacking team, and scored just 1 goal more, but received 47, compare to Inter's 35. Not a comparison at all.


Conte team has a clear and a visible style, unlike what we have now, or what we have under any manager post SAF. His teams are well organized and know exactly well how to organize their attack, and what to do in every second. And while he is very adaptive, he is still using the same style, even when he needs to adapt when he is to face a way better opposition.

And another great thing in him is his transfer. He knows exactly what position and what player he needs.
Kante is a player he wanted, and we all know how that plays out. In Inter he brought players like Hakimi for 40mln., and in 2 years time they sold him for 71mln. Lukaku for 80mln. then sold for 115mln. Not to mention how he turns Inter players around and make a complete jobbers to looks like top levels players. He also can develop great players.
He build Juventus from scratches and make them hegemon in Italy. Develop tons of great players in there, and they later sell them for tons of money.
Here is the facts:

When he took charge in Juventus they were 7th in the league. He made them champions 3 time in a row.
When he took charge in Chelsea, they were 10th in the league. He made them champions straight away.
When he took charge in Inter, they were 4th, 21 points away from the 1st. He finished second just 1 point behind, and next season he made them Champions with 12 points clear lead.
Before he took charge in Juventus, he managed to win Serie B with Bari, and also win a promotion for Siena.

That clearly speaks for itself that he is proven at all levels, and can build team from scratches.

As far as the fallouts with some of the boards i will speak later on this one, cause my post is already too big. I will just say that in the current football, there is no such thing as long term manager or players. It's actually good to refresh the squad in 3-4 years time, cause the current primadonas lose motivation very fast and it's hard to squeeze the best from them any longer.
Great post and completely agreed. Conte would have made us feared immediately.
 
Deja Vu again, all the good managers are taken. We are running out of option and always slowest to react.

Now the options being mentioned are not inspiring at all:

1) Rodgers
2) Potter
3) Southgate

We are stuck with Ole for now and hopefully next season we can get in

1) Nagelsmann
2) Hansi Flick
3) Marco Rose
4) Ten Hag
 
I know his stock has somewhat fallen but I do think Pochettino is a brilliant candidate.

What he did at Spurs was pretty incredible. The results were good, they got to a CL final, all that. But actually just how competitive they were. They could go toe to toe with top sides, it wasn't about cowering, or getting through games with pragmatism. He built a proper side with energy, quality and the tactical framework to pull it off.

He understands English football, he handles himself as a United manager should. I also think regardless of how this PSG affair ends up he will have learnt a lot handling that calibre of player and the expectation. Let's be honest he probably will win the league so the fact he hasn't won anything won't be a stick to beat him with.
 
Surprised no-one has mentioned Gasperini after last night's game, he has an incredibly well drilled team.

edit: hadn't realised just how consistent Atalanta have been under him either, 3rd three seasons in a row and 4th in his first season having been a perennially bottom half team prior to his arrival.

Has had them in the Champions League knockout rounds past two seasons in a row as well.
 
I know his stock has somewhat fallen but I do think Pochettino is a brilliant candidate.

What he did at Spurs was pretty incredible. The results were good, they got to a CL final, all that. But actually just how competitive they were. They could go toe to toe with top sides, it wasn't about cowering, or getting through games with pragmatism. He built a proper side with energy, quality and the tactical framework to pull it off.

He understands English football, he handles himself as a United manager should. I also think regardless of how this PSG affair ends up he will have learnt a lot handling that calibre of player and the expectation. Let's be honest he probably will win the league so the fact he hasn't won anything won't be a stick to beat him with

I agree. The work he did at Southampton before that was equally impressive. He is more than capable of building a squad that plays extraordinarily well. Both at Spurs and at Southamptom he made players better within the system than they probably were/are as individuals.

I think it was probably right for us to go with Ole first, he's done a lot to get the ball rolling and changed the atmosphere after Mourinho's toxic reign, but now is the time to get him, or someone like him to go a step further. I think he'd help us establish a style of play, and generally make us a better side to watch as well.
 
Surprised no-one has mentioned Gasperini after last night's game, he has an incredibly well drilled team.

edit: hadn't realised just how consistent Atalanta have been under him either, 3rd three seasons in a row and 4th in his first season having been a perennially bottom half team prior to his arrival.

Has had them in the Champions League knockout rounds past two seasons in a row as well.

He’s too old.
 
1. Ten Hag
2. Rose
3. Pochettino

Only 3 candidates I'd get behind to be honest. After the world cup Mancini or Enrique would be palatable.

Rodgers or Southgate would be sickening, and the fans would rightly turn on them the first sign of trouble. If we go down the British manager route for the sake of it we deserve to fall into an even deeper oblivion.
 
I would give it to Atalanta manager. Seems to be real football coach and tactician much better then Ole. If he has Atalanta the way they are without key players then what can he do with our talented squad. They always seemed to have an outlet last night playing out from the back and with width.

18 month contract from now.
 
Poch just feels like Mourinho in the sense that he will get the job someday, but the timing may be bad. Poch is a good manager and it seems our board is obsessed with him. I'm neutral at best. I think he's a top 5 candidate but it just feel like a decision made a few years too late.

I think there are better candidates like Conte before he went to Spurs but would rather take Poch over someone like Potter. I think it's just a very whelming appointment that seems typical of our board. We always seem to make the easy decision and it's backfired a bunch.

From firing managers too late to appointing the new one because of a fluke win. We always make the easy decision instead of the right one. It's frustrating and I think Poch would completely encapsulate that mindset.
 
Alrighty lads tonight is the battle of 2 of our potential managers

Ten Hag vs Rose(was one of the candidates before Ole got the job)

All eyes on that match. Dortmund will be out for blood after a 4-0 thrashing in the away game. It's going to be interesting to see how Ten Hag will handle that.
 
I'm willing to expect what we got until we can get Luis Enrique from Spain. Just hope and hope and something might happen.
Not winning the league we could well get a good run in cups who knows, but there's one issue any manager has and its to defend better.
This attack will score , that's a plus. Only
 
Any thoughts on Ten Haag ?

Does he really suit for us ?

Not everything that shines outside will shine over here

We learned that in enough times.
 
The express- not exactly reliable - claims Zidane wants the job now? Surely just conjecture?
 
I know his stock has somewhat fallen but I do think Pochettino is a brilliant candidate.

What he did at Spurs was pretty incredible. The results were good, they got to a CL final, all that. But actually just how competitive they were. They could go toe to toe with top sides, it wasn't about cowering, or getting through games with pragmatism. He built a proper side with energy, quality and the tactical framework to pull it off.

He understands English football, he handles himself as a United manager should. I also think regardless of how this PSG affair ends up he will have learnt a lot handling that calibre of player and the expectation. Let's be honest he probably will win the league so the fact he hasn't won anything won't be a stick to beat him with.

He lost the championship to Leicester! In a two horse race he managed to finish third! He went to a CL final and it was a pathetic display.

If he is sacked by PSG everyone will look at him as a loser, himself included. I think he will be a broken man after this.
 
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He lost the championship to Leicester! In a two horse race he managed to finish third! He went to a CL final and it has a pathetic display.

If he is sacked by PSG everyone will look at him as a loser, himself included. I think he will be a broken man after this.
Not by us he won't. We love going after unemployed managers whose stock have considerably fallen.
 
Not by us he won't. We love going after unemployed managers whose stock have considerably fallen.

Not another loser, please! Some fans were wondering why Ole was losing in semi-finals. Then he also lost a final. Pochettino is like that too, he managed to lose the title with PSG. For them, winning titles is only "an ego thing", unnecessary...
 
He lost the championship to Leicester! In a two horse race he managed to finish third! He went to a CL final and it was a pathetic display.

If he is sacked by PSG everyone will look at him as a loser, himself included. I think he will be a broken man after this.
Everyone lost to the league to Leicester. Why not just give them the credit, it was a strange season. I don't see how that's a point against him any more than it is with respect to every other manager that operated that year.

Yes they were poor in the final but how easy is it to get Spurs to a position like that? This is a club that is routinely mediocre and he took them levels above that. I don't think one football match can override everything he did there, as poor and disappointing as it was.

I think it depends. He could be sacked by PSG even if he wins the league. That's just how it is with them. I don't think he'd be broken by that so it's a bit of a dramatic statement. If he doesn't win the league then questions are to be asked anyway but I think he will.
 
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Here's the three Managers mentioned most often in here European results.

Updated with all midweek matches included

ManagerCompetitionClubGamesWDLGFGAGDW %
Pochettino​
CL​
Paris SG​
10​
4​
3​
3​
17​
14​
3​
40%​
Pochettino​
CL​
Tottenham​
31​
15​
6​
10​
57​
42​
15​
48%​
Pochettino​
Europa​
Tottenham​
22​
10​
6​
6​
34​
23​
11​
45%​
ten Hag​
CL​
Ajax​
28​
15​
6​
7​
55​
28​
27​
54%​
ten Hag​
Europa​
Ajax​
8​
5​
1​
2​
13​
8​
5​
63%​
Rodgers​
CL​
Celtic​
12​
1​
3​
8​
10​
34​
-24​
8%​
Rodgers​
CL​
Liverpool​
6​
1​
2​
3​
5​
9​
-4​
17%​
Rodgers​
Europa​
Leicester​
12​
5​
4​
3​
21​
14​
7​
41%​
Rodgers​
Europa​
Celtic​
10​
4​
0​
6​
7​
14​
-7​
40%​
Rodgers​
Europa​
Liverpool​
14​
6​
4​
4​
23​
21​
2​
43%​

No matter how you dress it up, if you look at individual clubs, look at combined competition stats or look at all of their european stats combined, ten Hag is clearly the best by a country mile.
 
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