Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

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I'm thinking of a "partnership draft" just for fun.

This would only have 8 teams. Each team will have 2 managers, who will alternatively make the picks. There will be no communication between the managers either before or during the draft. I know this can't be enforced, but will leave it to integrity of participants.

Partners must not have teamed up in any draft matches before.

The first 2 picks (one by each manager) will be from legacy pool and rest may be open or have some broad criteria.

Also during matches all 4 playing managers will be banned from posting in thread. No write ups. One manager will come up a formation picture and that's it. Neutrals discussion only. Rinse and repeat for reinforcements.
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Auction Draft

Rules

R.1) All players named in the player list below are eligible and do not require proof of match. Any unlisted player born before 31st Dec 1939 requires a full match to be available to be eligible. Unlisted players born after on or after 1st Jan 1940 are eligible and don’t require a full match

R.2) In case of drawn matches, team with goalkeeper with higher value will win (Winning bid amount). In case of same value, a neutral panel will decide which goalkeeper is better.

R.3) Initial funds of 700m for a 13 player squad. No substitutions allowed in the match but if you progress to next round, you must play your 12th and 13th player. By Q/F round, your entire squad must be utilized.

4) 2 players per reinforcement round; 1 for final. 50m extra funds will be available per reinforcement round

Bid Process:

B.1 - Once posted, it's final. No edits / change to bids (player or value) permitted. No deletions or revoking your bids either.

B.3 - Upbids only in multiples of 10m. 10m minimum upbid. During final 3 hrs of the bid, up bids of minimum 20m only.

B.4 - Bids get finalized after 12hrs of no up-bids.

B.5 - Bid format "dd/mmm - hh:mm - Player Name - Manager Name - value" (e.g. 14/Jan - 23:14 - Marcus Rashford - Indnyc - 100m). 24h time format. GMT timezone only.

B.6 - For players in list, you can only start off with the listed bid value. If not in list minimum starting bid value is 20m.

B.7 - Total bid values cannot be higher than available funds.

Trade Process:

Trading allowed between managers

T.1 - Players can only be sold or traded for profit. i.e. value higher than they were bought with a minimum of 10m profit.

T.3 - Players can be sold back to the bank at discount. Below are the discounted rates
  • Bid amount greater than or equal to 80m; discount of 20m. For example a 80m player will get 60m back; 160m player gets 140m back
  • Bid amount less than or equal to 70m; discount of 10m. For example 70m player will get 60m back; 50m gets back 40m
Initial Player Value

150m - Pele
150m - Diego Maradona
150m - Franz Beckenbauer
150m - Johan Cruyff
150m - Garrincha

130m - Cristiano Ronaldo
130m - Lionel Messi
130m - Alfredo Di Stefano
130m - Eusebio
130m - Ferenc Puskas
130m - Frank Rijkaard
130m - George Best
130m - Gerd Muller
130m - Lothar Matthäus
130m - Luis Ronaldo
130m - Marco Van Basten
130m - Michel Platini

120m - Alessandro Nesta
120m - Bobby Charlton
120m - Bobby Moore
120m - Daniel Passarella
120m - Franco Baresi
120m - Paolo Maldini
120m - Lilian Thuram
120m - Marcel Desailly
120m - Romario

100m - Djalma Santos
100m - Elias Figueroa
100m - Francisco Gento
100m - Gaetano Scirea
100m - Jürgen Kohler
100m - Kurt Hamrin
100m - Luis Figo
100m - Roberto Baggio
100m - Stanley Matthews
100m - Thierry Henry
100m - Xavi
100m - Zico
100m - Zinedine Zidane
100m - Zoltan Czibor

80m - Albert Shesternev (SHESTERNYOV)
80m - Alessandro Costacurta
80m - Alessandro Del Piero
80m - Amancio Amaro
80m - Andrea Pirlo
80m - Andreas Brehme
80m - Andres Iniesta
80m - Andriy Shevchenko
80m - Antonio Cabrini
80m - Bernd Schuster
80m - Berti Vogts
80m - Bixente Lizarazu
80m - Bryan Robson
80m - Cafu
80m - Carlos Alberto
80m - Claude Makelele
80m - David Beckham
80m - Didi
80m - Dino Zoff
80m - Domingos Da Guia
80m - Dragan Dzajic
80m - Duncan Edwards
80m - Edgar Davids
80m - Edwin Van Der Sar
80m - Eric Cantona
80m - Fabio Cannavaro
80m - Fernando Redondo
80m - Francesco Totti
80m - Gabriel Batistuta
80m - Giacinto Facchetti
80m - Gianluigi Buffon
80m - Giuseppe Bergomi
80m - Gordon Banks
80m - Jaap Stam
80m - Jairzinho
80m - Javier Zanetti
80m - Johan Neeskens
80m - Jose Emilio Santamaria
80m - Karl-Heinz Forster
80m - Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
80m - Lev Yashin
80m - Luis Suarez Miramontes (Luisito)
80m - Michael Laudrup
80m - Nilton Santos
80m - Patrick Vieira
80m - Paul Breitner
80m - Paul Mcgrath
80m - Paul Scholes
80m - Paulo Roberto Falcao
80m - Pavel Nedved
80m - Peter Schmeichel
80m - Peter Shilton
80m - Philip Lahm
80m - Pietro Vierchowod
80m - Raymond Kopa
80m - Rio Ferdinand
80m - Roberto Carlos
80m - Roberto Rivellino (Rivelino)
80m - Ronaldinho
80m - Roy Keane
80m - Ruud Gullit
80m - Ruud Krol
80m - Ryan Giggs
80m - Samuel Eto'o
80m - Sandor Kocsis
80m - Sandro Mazzola
80m - Sepp Maier
80m - Silvio Marzolini
80m - Silvio Piola
80m - Socrates
80m - Victor Rodriguez Andrade
80m - Zbigniew Boniek

50m - Arjen Robben
50m - Armando Picchi
50m - Ashley Cole
50m - Bastian Schweinsteiger
50m - Billy Bremner
50m - Branco Zebec
50m - Bruno Conti
50m - Carlos Valderrama
50m - Ciro Ferrara
50m - Clarence Seedorf
50m - Diego Godin
50m - Dani Alves
50m - Dejan Savicevic
50m - Denis Law
50m - Dennis Bergkamp
50m - Didier Deschamps
50m - Diego Simeone
50m - Dunga
50m - Enzo Francescoli
50m - Eric Gerets
50m - Fabien Barthez
50m - Fernando Hierro
50m - Franck Ribery
50m - Frank De Boer
50m - Frantisek Planicka
50m - George Weah
50m - Gerson
50m - Graeme Souness
50m - Gunter Netzer
50m - Gyorgy Sarosi
50m - Gyula Grosics
50m - Hristo Stoichkov
50m - Jean Tigana
50m - Jimmy Johnstone
50m - John Charles
50m - Johnny Rep
50m - Jose Leandro Andrade
50m - Jose Manuel Moreno
50m - Jose Nasazzi
50m - Josef Masopust
50m - Jozsef Bozsik
50m - Juan Alberto Schiaffino
50m - Juan Sebastian Veron
50m - Kaka
50m - Karl-Heinz Schnellinger
50m - Kevin De Bruyne
50m - Laurent Blanc
50m - Luis Monti
50m - Luis Pereira
50m - Luis Suarez (Uruguay)
50m - Luka Modric
50m - Manuel Amoros
50m - Manuel Neuer
50m - Marcelo
50m - Mario Coluna
50m - Marco Tardelli
50m - Mario Zagallo
50m - Marius Tresor
50m - Matthias Sammer
50m - Matthias Sindelar
50m - Maxime Bossis
50m - Michael Ballack
50m - Nandor Hidegkuti
50m - Nemanja Vidic
50m - Neville Southall
50m - Neymar
50m - Obdulio Varela
50m - Oleg Blokhin
50m - Oliver Kahn
50m - Omar Enrique Sivori
50m - Oscar Ruggeri
50m - Paolo Rossi
50m - Patrice Evra
50m - Patrick Jennings
50m - Paul Pogba
50m - Piet Keizer
50m - Pirri
50m - Preben Elkjaer
50m - Raul
50m - Ricardo Carvalho
50m - Rinat Dasayev
50m - Rivaldo
50m - Robert Rensenbrink
50m - Roberto Ayala
50m - Roberto Donadoni
50m - Roberto Rosato
50m - Ronald Koeman
50m - Rui Costa
50m - Ruud Van Nistelrooy
50m - Sol Campbell
50m - Stefan Effenberg
50m - Teofilo Cubillas
50m - Thomas Muller
50m - Toninho Cerezo
50m - Tostao
50m - Ubaldo Matildo Fillol
50m - Uli Stielike
50m - Uwe Seeler
50m - Velibor Vasovic
50m - Vladimir Beara
50m - Wim Van Hanegem
50m - Xabi Alonso
50m - Zlatan Ibrahimovic

30m - Ademir Da Guia
30m - Ademir Marques De Menezes
30m - Adolfo Pedernera
30m - Alain Giresse
30m - Alan Hansen
30m - Alan Shearer
30m - Alberto Spencer
30m - Alcides Ghiggia
30m - Aldair
30m - Allan Simonsen
30m - Amadeo Raul Carrizo
30m - Anatoliy Demyanenko
30m - Andoni Zubizarreta
30m - Andres Mazali
30m - Angel Labruna
30m - Arsenio Erico
30m - Branco
30m - Branko Stankovic
30m - Brian Laudrup
30m - Carles Puyol
30m - Carlos Gamarra
30m - Cesc Fabregas
30m - Christian Panucci
30m - Christian Vieri
30m - Claudio Gentile
30m - Dan Petrescu
30m - Danny Blanchflower
30m - Danny Blind
30m - David Seaman
30m - David Villa
30m - Davor Suker
30m - Deco
30m - Denis Irwin
30m - Didier Drogba
30m - Dixie Dean
30m - Emlyn Hughes
30m - Ernst Ocwirk
30m - Esteban Cambiasso
30m - Frank Lampard
30m - Gaizka Mendieta
30m - Gary Neville
30m - Gheorghe Hagi
30m - Gheorghe Popescu
30m - Giampiero Boniperti
30m - Giancarlo Antognoni
30m - Gianluca Pagliuca
30m - Gianluca Zambrotta
30m - Gianni Rivera
30m - Gilmar Dos Santos Neves
30m - Giuseppe Meazza
30m - Grzegorz Lato
30m - Gunnar Gren
30m - Gunnar Nordahl
30m - Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck
30m - Hans-Peter Briegel
30m - Harald Schumacher
30m - Harry Kane
30m - Hector Chumpitaz
30m - Hristo Bonev
30m - Hugo Sanchez
30m - Ian Rush
30m - Igor Netto
30m - Iker Casillas
30m - Jair Da Costa
30m - Jan Ceulemans
30m - Jan Popluhar
30m - Jari Litmanen
30m - Jean-Marie Pfaff
30m - Jimmy Greaves
30m - Jocelyn Angloma
30m - John Terry
30m - Jorginho
30m - Jose Antonio Camacho
30m - Jose Luis Chilavert
30m - Juan Joya
30m - Juan Roman Riquelme
30m - Junior
30m - Jurgen Klinsmann
30m - Just Fontaine
30m - Kazimierz Deyna
30m - Kenny Dalglish
30m - Kevin Keegan
30m - Ladislao Kubala
30m - Ladislao Mazurkiewicz
30m - Leonidas
30m - Liam Brady
30m - Lucio
30m - Luis Enrique
30m - Maicon
30m - Manfred Kaltz
30m - Manuel Sanchis
30m - Marc Overmars
30m - Mario Corso
30m - Mario Kempes
30m - Mauro Tassotti
30m - Michael Essien
30m - Michael Owen
30m - Michel
30m - Neil Franklin
30m - Nobby Stiles
30m - Paolo Montero
30m - Paul Gacoigne
30m - Pep Guardiola
30m - Pepi Bican
30m - Petr Cech
30m - Phil Neal
30m - Phillip Cocu
30m - Pierre Littbarski
30m - Rainer Bonhof
30m - Ricardo Zamora
30m - Riccardo Ferri
30m - Rinus Israël
30m - Robert Jarni
30m - Robert Pires
30m - Robert Prosinecki
30m - Roberto Perfumo
30m - Robin van Persie
30m - Ronnie Hellström
30m - Ruben Ayala
30m - Ruben Sosa
30m - Sergi Barjuan
30m - Sergio Busquets
30m - Stefan Reuter
30m - Tarcisio Burgnich
30m - Tom Finney
30m - Valentino Mazzola
30m - Valery Voronin
30m - Walter Zeman
30m - Walter Zenga
30m - Wayne Rooney
30m - Willi Schulz
30m - Willy Sagnol
30m - Wim Suurbier
30m - Wolfgang Overath
30m - Yaya Toure
30m - Ze Roberto
30m - Zizinho
30m - Zvonimir Boban
 
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Like the fact you can't use the last spaces for random players as they need to play the 2nd round, nice touch @Indnyc
 
Will stop bidding for now until things are sorted out. Getting a bit messy even at this stage
FFS, update the list!
Everyone please stop bidding while list is being updated
Everyone, STAHP!
EVERYONE STAHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, continue from the latest list you all @$%$%@
It is INSANE!!
 
I think an auction draft with a similar blocklist like Don Alfredo's will have more active bidding wars.
 
I think an auction draft with a similar blocklist like Don Alfredo's will have more active bidding wars.
Names doesn't really impact the bidding process.

Usually the more active bidding wars were due to some players being a bit underrated in the past and ended up worth more than they are actually worth. :lol:
 
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8. MJJ
 
Always In for an auction draft!

@Indnyc any reason Messi is 130m and Garrincha 150m?
So that there is more bidding war on him :)

I tried to make more tiers at the top end from last time and have given more money to ensure more bidding wars
 
In.

Explain T1.

If you buy a player for say 50m you can only sell for a minimum of 60m.

If you want to sell 1 and buy 2, same logic where some of the two must be greater than the player you are selling by at least 10m

Say you brought Didi for 100m; You can sell him at any price greater than or equal to 110m

Similarly Didi (100m) = Edgar Davids (80m) + Rooney (30m)
 
If you buy a player for say 50m you can only sell for a minimum of 60m.

If you want to sell 1 and buy 2, same logic where some of the two must be greater than the player you are selling by at least 10m

Say you brought Didi for 100m; You can sell him at any price greater than or equal to 110m

Similarly Didi (100m) = Edgar Davids (80m) + Rooney (30m)
Oh, see you've deleted the R3 doesn't apply part, I didn't understand.
 
I say remove the tiers, let the market decide!
I agree that it's a bit weird. I would understand 2 tiers, for example (with low estimates — like 50 and 20), so that the likes of Di Stefano won't go for absolute peanuts, but this detailed pre-trade system takes a lot of fun out of auction. You have to be able to make a few bargains/steals, which is pretty much impossible in this format.
 
I'm not against a limited block list: say Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano.. 10 players maximum.

Well once the bidding starts it is market decided anyway

I say remove the tiers, let the market decide!

We belong to the same camp: deregulated and fun auction draft.

A maximum of 5 active bids per managers would be great.

12 hours to secure a deal and make the process more long?

Decent sheep allocated to somebody who hasn't respected the financial constraints (budgets) and # of players --- a decent sheep is somebody like Thomas Meunier.

#Liberalism #Freedom of movement #no constraints
 
An auction draft with fixed prices would be pretty boring
 
I'm not against a limited block list: say Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano.. 10 players maximum.

We belong to the same camp: deregulated and fun auction draft.

A maximum of 5 active bids per managers would be great.

12 hours to secure a deal and make the process more long?

Decent sheep allocated to somebody who hasn't respected the financial constraints (budgets) and # of players --- a decent sheep is somebody like Thomas Meunier.

#Liberalism #Freedom of movement #no constraints

I agree with the others - fixed prices for all those above 50 m makes it a bit boring in terms of bidding. Maybe put lower fixed prices - thus we will have a bigger bidding wars and generally more intense process.

I wouldn't put active bid limit though. Nominations yes but not limit your active bids for the very same reason.