Decades will likely be worse in this one as say someone picks Player A that retired in 81 and you've only got the 00s your basically down to whoever was coming through at the time the other guy retired, and then also had a long career.
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Decades will likely be worse in this one as say someone picks Player A that retired in 81 and you've only got the 00s your basically down to whoever was coming through at the time the other guy retired, and then also had a long career.
the group chain is only league based....
used messi example so will continue with him, if you choose the peak that has psg and miami and you also have 80s criteria you can pick anyone that played in ligue 1 and mls in the 80s
- So those Pools are separate criteria, can be overlapped, or has to be all fullfilled?
- Also the "4" is the number of managers or players? Thanks, Sjor.
4 is number of managers, you will choose(or will be given on random) one of those 4 criterias and then you choose within what you want(do you want pep and mitchells or pulis and big sam)
if we play thst will have to think what to do with managers as i assume a lot wont be able to follow league criteria
You see how it works in the previous
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-4-way-draft.431242/#post-21280160
Thanks, Sjor and 2mu. I'm in for 4-way.
or just to simplify and do a reserve 4way with all choosen stuff(managers, clubs, decades, countries) blocked
@Šjor Bepo Fire-up the 4 way draft thread and see how many want to play.
original chain idea wont work with the managers sadly, maybe if we add the pool of non CL/Lib/WC/Copa/Euro winners as the pool for the ones that dont have the league within their own pool?
another option is reserve 4way with all options choosen in previous draft blocked
I'm not sure how balanced that would be but could work.
I'm in for anything.
Here's an idea.
I will create a 12 x 16 table at the start of the draft, which will be fully filled with 192 unique football clubs (ideally the greatest 192 clubs of all time).
The draft will follow a snake style. When it's your turn, you can pick any available club slot and fill in your name and player choice in the box.
The player's peak performance at that club will be what counts in the games.
I will create a 12 x 16 table at the start of the draft, which will be fully filled with 192 unique football clubs (ideally the greatest 192 clubs of all time).
The draft will follow a snake style. When it's your turn, you can pick any available club slot and fill in your name and player choice in the box.
The player's peak performance at that club will be what counts in the games.
Cool.
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In. I also have some idea's for a sheep draft
Sounds good. I'm in.
Sounds good. In.
I have a thought, how about we let the participants choose any club as long as that club hasn't been chosen previously instead of having a preset list of clubs.
id prefer if scrappy picked all clubs
I will work on the list today with chatgpt
Thinking of this idea which would be interesting, i will create 16 different criteria, the criteria will be randomized so everyone get's a new one every round (you won't get the same criteria 2 times in a row), will be snake order drafting. Will make the criteria fun and interesting not too research heavy.
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He will be on the block list as way too opin as long as greek league is one of the criterias
Just had a thought for a draft concept which is a sheep draft where everyone has a separate criteria each round assigned at random and given out by private message (the criteria being publicly revealed when the results are announced at the end of each round).
Also could do it where all the categories are revealed at the start of the round but not which player has which category. If that was done, could also have players submit 1 player to block (can meet any of the categories) but if the same player is blocked more than once the block is cancelled and the player is still available (and if we wanted to e particularly tough, successfully blocked players could be added to the banned list). This block mechanic might be interesting in a regular sheep draft as well.
Also could do it where all the categories are revealed at the start of the round but not which player has which category. If that was done, could also have players submit 1 player to block (can meet any of the categories) but if the same player is blocked more than once the block is cancelled and the player is still available (and if we wanted to e particularly tough, successfully blocked players could be added to the banned list). This block mechanic might be interesting in a regular sheep draft as well.
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I've noticed a lot of the people don't want to play because of research heavy /restrictive drafts, let's park this idea Michael maybe for the next one (we've done plenty of sheep drafts too), would like to run this criteria draft next as a bit of a break from last one which was pretty restrictive too.
fire up the new draft
Had this idea while ago but I'm going to start making a database of all players that won a draft and how many times, maybe after the next one in a couple of months we can do a draft of players that never won one.
Around 5 years ago we had the Virgin draft. These two posts may be a good place to start:
Nope! But I can host it.
Will set up the draft thread tomorrow, need to iron out a couple of wrinkles first.
Reference material for interested parties:
Basic Virgin Draft theme/rules writeup (subject to change).
In alphabetical order (first name):
- Alan Ball: 1
- Alan Hansen: 2
- Albert Shesternyov: 2
- Alberto Tarantini: 1
- Aleksandar Shalamanov: 1
- Alessandro del Piero: 1
- Alessandro Costacurta: 1
- Alessandro Nesta: 5
- Alex Raisbeck: 1
- Alex Stepney: 1
- Alf Sherwood: 1
- Allan Simonsen: 1
- Amadeo Carboni: 1
- Amadeo Carrizo: 1
- Amancio Amaro: 1
- Anatoliy Demyanenko: 1
- Anderson: 1
- Andrea Ranocchia: 1
- Andreas Brehme: 3
- Andrés Iniesta: 2
- Andriy Shevchenko: 2
- Andy Goram: 1
- Antonio Cabrini: 1
- Arjen Robben: 5
- Arsenio Erico: 1
- Arthur Albiston: 1
- Ashley Cole: 5
- Atsuto Uchida: 1
- Bastian Schweinsteiger: 7
- Bixente Lizarazu: 1
- Bobby Charlton: 2
- Bobby Moore: 5
- Bodo Illgner: 1
- Brad Friedel: 1
- Branco: 1
- Brian Laudrup: 1
- Bruno Conti: 1
- Bryan Robson: 5
- Cafú: 4
- Carles Puyol: 1
- Carlos Alberto: 6
- César Azpilicueta: 1
- Christian Vieri: 1
- Ciro Ferrera: 3
- Claude Makelélé: 1
- Claudio Bravo: 1
- Claudio Gentile: 2
- Cláudio Taffarel: 2
- Clodoaldo: 1
- Cristiano Ronaldo: 8
- Dani Alves: 1
- Daniel Passarella: 3
- Daniele de Rossi: 1
- Danny McGrain: 1
- David Alaba: 2
- David de Gea: 4
- David Silva: 1
- David Villa: 1
- Davor Šuker: 1
- Dejan Savićević: 1
- Denis Law: 4
- Des Walker: 1
- Didi: 2
- Diego Fuser: 1
- Diego Forlán: 1
- Diego Godín: 2
- Diego Maradona: 8
- Diego Simeone: 2
- Dirceu: 1
- Dixie Dean: 1
- Djalma Santos: 4
- Domingos da Guia: 1
- Dragan Dzajić: 2
- Duncan Edwards: 4
- Dunga: 1
- Edgar Davids: 4
- Edinson Cavani: 1
- Edmílson: 1
- Edwin van der Sar: 4
- Elías Figueroa: 7
- Eric Abidal: 1
- Eric Gerets: 7
- Esteban Granero: 1
- Eusébio: 1
- Fabio Cannavaro: 3
- Ferenc Puskás : 2 (1 as lead striker)
- Fernando Hierro: 2
- Fernando Redondo: 3
- Filipe Luís: 1
- Francesco Toldo: 1
- Francesco Totti: 1
- Francisco Arce: 1
- Francisco Gento: 1
- Franck Ribéry: 1
- Franco Baresi: 6
- Frank Rijkaard: 7 (0 as CB)
- František Plánička: 1
- Franz Beckenbauer: 8 (6 as midfielder)
- Gabriel Batistuta: 3
- Gaetano Scirea: 7
- Gaizka Mendieta: 1
- Gareth Bale: 1
- Garrincha: 4
- Gary Neville: 1
- Gary Pallister: 1
- George Best: 5
- George Weah: 1
- Gerd Müller: 5
- Gérson: 1
- Gheorghe Hagi: 2
- Giacinto Facchetti: 9
- Gianfranco Zola: 1
- Gianluca Zambrotta: 1
- Gianluigi Buffon: 2
- Gianni Rivera: 1
- Gilmar: 1
- Giorgio Chiellini: 1
- Giuseppe Bergomi: 2
- Giuseppe Signori: 1
- Gordon Banks: 1
- Graeme Le Saux: 1
- Graeme Souness: 2
- Grzegorz Lato: 1
- Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck: 1
- Hans-Peter Briegel: 1
- Harry Gregg: 1
- Harry Kewell: 1
- Héctor Chumpitaz: 1
- Hristo Stoichkov: 4
- Hugo Sánchez: 2
- Ian Rush: 1
- Igor Netto: 1
- Ilkay Gündogan: 1
- Jaap Stam: 7
- Jack Wilshere: 1
- Jairzinho: 4
- Jan Popluhár: 1
- Jan van Beveren: 1
- Javier Hernández: 1
- Javier Mascherano: 1
- Javier Zanetti: 6
- Jean Tigana: 5
- Jeffrén Suárez: 1
- Jens Lehmann: 1
- Jerome Boateng: 1
- Jimmy Greaves: 1
- Jimmy Johnstone: 1
- Joaquín: 1
- Jocelyn Angloma: 1
- Joe Hart: 1
- Jeroen Zoet: 1
- Johan Cruyff: 2 (1 as False 9)
- Johan Neeskens: 5
- John Barnes: 1
- José Antonio Camacho: 2
- José Luis Chilavert: 2
- José Leandro Andrade: 1
- Josef Masopust: 2
- Jozsef Bozsik: 1
- Juan Jesus: 1
- Juan Joya: 1
- Juan Mata: 1
- Julian Draxler: 1
- Jürgen Kohler: 6
- Karlheinz Förster: 3
- Karl-Heinz Rummenigge: 3
- Karl-Heinz Schnellinger: 3
- Kevin de Bruyne: 3
- Klaus Urbanczyk: 1
- Kyriakos Papadopolous: 1
- Ladislao Mazurkiewicz: 2
- Laurent Blanc: 1
- Leovegildo Júnior: 1
- Lilian Thuram: 7
- Lionel Messi: 8 (1 as False 9)
- Lothar Matthäus: 4
- Lúcio: 1
- Luigi Riva: 1
- Luis Enrique: 1
- Luís Figo: 3
- Luís Pereira: 1
- Luis Suárez: 1
- Luis Suárez Miramontes: 3
- Luka Modrić: 1
- Manfred Kaltz: 1
- Manuel Amoros: 2
- Manuel Neuer: 1
- Marc Overmars: 1
- Marcel Desailly: 9 (4 as DM)
- Marco Tardelli: 1
- Marco van Basten: 6
- Marco Verratti: 2
- Marcos Rojo: 1
- Mario Basler: 1
- Mário Coluna: 1
- Mario Götze: 1
- Mario Kempes: 1
- Mark Hughes: 1
- Mauro Silva: 2
- Matthias Sammer: 5
- Maxime Bossis: 1
- Michael Essien: 2
- Michael Konsel: 1
- Michael Laudrup: 3
- Michel Platini: 6
- Michel Preud'homme: 4
- Mike England: 1
- Milutin Šoskić: 1
- Miralem Pjanić: 1
- Miroslav Klose: 1
- Nani: 1
- Nemanja Vidić: 5
- Neven Subotić: 1
- Neymar: 1
- Nílton Santos: 6
- Nobby Stiles: 1
- Obdulio Varela: 2
- Oleg Blokhin: 2
- Oliver Kahn: 1
- Oscar Ruggeri: 3
- Osvaldo Ardiles: 1
- Paolo Maldini: 12 (5 as leftback in 4)
- Pat Jennings: 1
- Patrice Evra: 2
- Patrick Vieira: 3
- Paul Breitner: 4 (1 as leftback)
- Paul Ince: 1
- Paul McGrath: 2
- Paul Madeley: 1
- Paul Scholes: 1
- Paulo Roberto Falcão: 3
- Pavel Nedvěd: 5
- Pelé: 9
- Peter Beardsley: 1
- Peter Platzer: 1
- Peter Schmeichel: 7
- Peter Shilton: 1
- Petr Čech: 1
- Phil Neal: 1
- Philipp Lahm: 2
- Piet Keizer: 2
- Pietro Vierchowod: 3
- Preben Elkjær: 1
- Rainer Bonhof: 1
- Rafael da Silva: 1
- Raúl Albiol: 1
- Raúl González Blanco: 2
- Ray Clemence: 1
- Ray Wilson: 1
- Raymond Kopa: 1
- Renato Augusto: 1
- Revaz Dzodzuashvili: 1
- Ricardo Carvalho: 1
- Ricardo Kaká: 1
- Rinat Dasayev: 3
- Rio Ferdinand: 6
- Rivaldo: 4
- Rob Jones: 1
- Rob Rensenbrink: 2
- Roberto Baggio: 4
- Roberto Bettega: 1
- Roberto Carlos: 3
- Roberto Rosato: 1
- Roger Byrne: 1
- Romário: 4
- Romelu Lukaku: 1
- Ronaldo Luís: 9
- Roy Keane: 7 ***
- Ronaldinho: 6
- Ruud Gullit: 4
- Ruud Krol: 4
- Ruud van Nistelrooy: 1
- Ryan Giggs: 5
- Samuel Eto'o: 1
- Sándor Kocsis: 2
- Sandro Mazzola: 1
- Santiago Cañizares: 1
- Sepp Maier: 1
- Silvio Marzolini: 1
- Sol Campbell: 2
- Søren Lerby: 1
- Stanley Matthews: 1
- Stefan Effenberg: 2
- Stefan Reuter: 1
- Steve Coppell: 2
- Steve McManaman: 1
- Steven Gerrard: 2
- Svatopluk Pluskal: 1
- Tarcisio Burgnich: 1
- Teófilo Cubillas: 1
- Terry Butcher: 1
- Terry Cooper: 1
- Thiago Alcântara: 1
- Thiago Silva: 2
- Thibaut Courtois: 1
- Thierry Henry: 6
- Thomas Helmer: 1
- Tobias Sippel: 1
- Ubaldo Fillol: 4
- Uli Stielike: 1
- Uwe Seeler: 2
- Valery Voronin: 4
- Velibor Vasović: 1
- Vladimir Jugović: 1
- Wayne Bridge: 1
- Wayne Rooney: 1
- Wesley Sneijder: 1
- Willem van Hanegem: 1
- Willi Schulz: 1
- William Gallas: 1
- Wim Suurbier: 1
- Wolfgang Overath: 1
- Xabi Alonso: 3
- Xavi Hernández: 2
- Yuri Djorkaeff: 1
- Zé Roberto: 1
- Zico: 2
- Zbigiew Boniek: 2
- Zinédine Zidane: 3
- Zito: 3
- Zizinho: 1
- Zlatan Ibrahimović: 1
- Zoltán Czibor: 1
- Zygmunt Anczok: 2
we should do another UNO draft
@prolifik and myself thinking about running The Wire Draft, tv show drafts went spectacular so far with fools and horses and seinfeld already done and wire has a lot of potential!
As long as few or no spoilers then I'm in. I'm on Season 3 of the Wire
- managers would be separeted in two groups - police and criminals
- each group would have their own pm convos where they can talk strategy etc. but not individual picks! in every group there would be either me or pro as some sorr of higher court
- each group will have at least one manager that knows the tv show well as tactics and stuff will be connected with tv show
Throwing out a couple of ideas that I've played on other forums/WhatsApp:
Common Club Pairs: you pick two players at a time, and they must have shared two clubs in common. For example, you could pick Luka Modric and pair him with Gareth Bale using Spurs and Real Madrid as the common clubs. Could have some restrictions on the picks (e.g. one Ballon d'Or winner per pair) to prevent duos like Messi-Ronaldinho, Matthaus-Rummenigge, etc.
Capitals Draft: players picked based on peak/prime with a club based in a capital city. You can't use the same capital more than once.
Common Club Pairs: you pick two players at a time, and they must have shared two clubs in common. For example, you could pick Luka Modric and pair him with Gareth Bale using Spurs and Real Madrid as the common clubs. Could have some restrictions on the picks (e.g. one Ballon d'Or winner per pair) to prevent duos like Messi-Ronaldinho, Matthaus-Rummenigge, etc.
Capitals Draft: players picked based on peak/prime with a club based in a capital city. You can't use the same capital more than once.
What about "fraud" XI...there would be 12 rounds with different criterias and each round/criteria would be formed around one player who i consider overrated. You all get to guess a player via PM, if your answer is correct you can use the blocked players as well for the criteria if not the blocks are active.
I was thinking more of a random draft where another manager make a pick for you. For example in R1 you pick for the player below you and in R2 the player below picks for you (with draft manager making the end picks). The pool for this would be the 1 player each from RedCafe GOAT lists. After 5 rounds, it will be a open snake.
We can add some additional self picked limitations to keep this GOAT free.
There's a element of challenge in building around the players other picked for you. Plus no research needed.
We can add some additional self picked limitations to keep this GOAT free.
There's a element of challenge in building around the players other picked for you. Plus no research needed.
@Fenômeno Did you suggest doing a new Virgin Draft? Michael updated the players who won a draft in the Farmers and GOATs thread.
I'm away for a few weeks so don't have the time at the moment.