New Left Back

Thought it a certainty we'd sign one a couple of months back but now don't think so, mainly because we have a number of players who can play there and a fair few bigger priorities.
Who can play there though? Shaw is a 5 games a season player, Darmian is one of the worst fullbacks i've seen in a United shirt, Young is Young and Blind isn't a left back. Who would you trust to play there for 50 games next season? Unless Jose is gonna rediscover his love for untested academy players it is one of our biggest priorities in my eyes.
 
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Still remember CBJ galloping up and down the left hand side before putting a deadly ball in like I have hardly seen before. I feel like he could do a good job considering we have plenty back up
 
Just seen Alex Sandro linked to arsenal and man city on sky sports, how on earth are we not in for him?

Just because Arsenal and City might be interested, doesn't mean that we are not or that he is for sale.
 
Just because Arsenal and City might be interested, doesn't mean that we are not or that he is for sale.
Hopefully, he's a quality player and would sort our left back problem out for years to come. Sandro and Shaw sounds solid to me
 
Hopefully, he's a quality player and would sort our left back problem out for years to come. Sandro and Shaw sounds solid to me

The left sided Valencia sounds awesome to me.

Sandro
Keane
Fabinho
Lukaku

Would be a great summer that's 4 regulars that would compliment DDG Bailly Valencia Herrera Pogba and Mykytarin in playing week in week out.
 
I wouldn't want any new signings for left back.
I want to see a competition between Shaw and CBJ, and competition always spark up intensity and development.
We can also use Young and Blind as backups. No need for a mediocre left back signing that will hinder the developments of Shaw and CBJ.
If we're going to sign Marcelo-level left back, I'm in. But otherwise, I would go with what we already have.
 
I wouldn't want any new signings for left back.
I want to see a competition between Shaw and CBJ, and competition always spark up intensity and development.
We can also use Young and Blind as backups. No need for a mediocre left back signing that will hinder the developments of Shaw and CBJ.
If we're going to sign Marcelo-level left back, I'm in. But otherwise, I would go with what we already have.
Same CBJ that couldnt get into a Wolves team that finished 15th in the championship?
 
Same CBJ that couldnt get into a Wolves team that finished 15th in the championship?

Don't you know, our players are all Lionel Messi in the making, we're just holding them back or something. Once they move onto other clubs, we'll see how good they all are, as has been evident with just about every transfer we've made in years.

lol
 
This CBJ stuff is weird. He's not going to make it here.

As for the left back slot, unfortunately I think Darmian has Mourinhos trust. Injury to Shaw may also have given him a stay of execution, therefore, don't see any players coming in for that position.
 
Getting a new LB is crucial as left side was completely dead last season and it clearly unbalanced all team. Shaw had like 5 good games in 3 seasons, CBJ couldn't even make it at Wolves so I have no idea why someone thinks he is good enough for us. Darmian is the best we have now but he is very limited.
 
Same CBJ that couldnt get into a Wolves team that finished 15th in the championship?
Okay.. rule CBJ out. But Wolves have no intention of developing the youngster, so it wouldn't be fair to judge his level by him getting in the line up or not.
Shaw Darmian Young Blind. Unless we get rid of one or two, I don't want our squad stacking up on that position right now.
Striker, holding midfielder, center back are more urgent as those position depths are thin or need replacement.
I still believe Shaw can be our long term left back. Its just a matter of him getting the trust from Mourinho in order to get the game time he needs for his development.
 
If we are indeed going for a CB (which we most likely are), it would be foolish to go for a LB.
We have a player with incredible potential in Shaw who is highly injury prone but still young. But more importantly, we have brilliant squad player in Blind who would be absolutely wasted if a new CB and LB arrive. He is not bad at all as a LB both while defending and attacking. And he is not very injury prone. Having someone like him around gives us the buffer to give a few more years to Shaw. If we do sign a LB and a CB, I can see both of them wanting to leave at some stage which in the long run would be a very bad idea IMO. Besides, we have Ashley Young too for a season at least who is not bad at all as a backup for LB.

Would love quality players around, but prioritizing the needs among positions is very important. A LB is not a desperate requirement this summer. Not by any stretch of imagination.
 
I'd keep darmian as back up RB and if Shaw has another season like he's had then darmian can cover him too. Blind, Young and 1 of Smalling or Jones future needs to be questioned, I'd be happy to let Blind, Young and Jones leave if we're to bring in a top LB like Sandro. I believe CBJ would potentially make a solid CB with his composure, tackling and passing ability also being 6"2 helps, so hopefully as I like the player he still has a future at the club.

CB - Smalling(Varane/Pepe), Rojo, Bailly, CBJ, Mensah
FB - Valencia, Darmian, Sandro, Shaw
DM - Carrick, Herrera, Tuanzebe

(If a top CB could be bought like Varane then Smalling can leave too, I got a sneaky feeling were going to get Pepe)
 
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Okay.. rule CBJ out. But Wolves have no intention of developing the youngster, so it wouldn't be fair to judge his level by him getting in the line up or not.
Shaw Darmian Young Blind. Unless we get rid of one or two, I don't want our squad stacking up on that position right now.
Striker, holding midfielder, center back are more urgent as those position depths are thin or need replacement.
I still believe Shaw can be our long term left back. Its just a matter of him getting the trust from Mourinho in order to get the game time he needs for his development.

If we are indeed going for a CB (which we most likely are), it would be foolish to go for a LB.
We have a player with incredible potential in Shaw who is highly injury prone but still young. But more importantly, we have brilliant squad player in Blind who would be absolutely wasted if a new CB and LB arrive. He is not bad at all as a LB both while defending and attacking. And he is not very injury prone. Having someone like him around gives us the buffer to give a few more years to Shaw. If we do sign a LB and a CB, I can see both of them wanting to leave at some stage which in the long run would be a very bad idea IMO. Besides, we have Ashley Young too for a season at least who is not bad at all as a backup for LB.

Would love quality players around, but prioritizing the needs among positions is very important. A LB is not a desperate requirement this summer. Not by any stretch of imagination.
If you want to win titles, you dont go into season with an unestablished injury prone luke shaw, a utility player that lacks pace in Blind, an aged former winger playing on his wrong foot in Young, and an offensively clueless italian on his wrong foot in Darmian. That is a recipe for failure.

The team needs a solid LB going into the season, and when he is out, any of the mentioned four can fill in. But to rely on any of those guys against the best in europe would leave us praying to God for them to have mercy.
 
Our left back situation reminds me of centre midfield at the end of Ferguson's reign. Lot of quantity, not much quality.
 
Remember at Chelsea Mourinho had right footed not very attacking LB in Azpi. He might see the same in Darmian. I hope Shaw gets the spot back but, that probably will not happen.
 
Our left back situation reminds me of centre midfield at the end of Ferguson's reign. Lot of quantity, not much quality.
Yeah this is spot on. I would be happy to see Young and Darmian shipped out with one quality player coming the other way. Shaw should have another season to try and revive his career with us, Blind is a decent utility man and Mitchell should be in with a shout in the cups.
 
We absolutely don't need a new left back. We need a CB, a CM, and two attacking players. We're covered in wing backs, Luke will prove all of you wrong, sure of that.

I don't get why you're all after Mendy, it's an absolutely ridiculous price for a left back. We have Shaw, Blind and Darmian, so we would need to sell Shaw in order to get someone else, which I wouldn't like at all, because Shaw has proved that when in form, he's the best in the league.
 
Remember at Chelsea Mourinho had right footed not very attacking LB in Azpi. He might see the same in Darmian. I hope Shaw gets the spot back but, that probably will not happen.

Even by the standards of 'defensive full back' Darmian is terrible going forwards. When Azpilicueta played that role under Mourinho in 14/15 he created 0.62 chances per 90 minutes. Last season Darmian only managed 0.13. Valencia had 1.16.

It takes Darmian five games to create as much as another 'defensive full back' does in one. And it takes him ten games to create as much as a balanced full back like Valencia.

I agree with you on Shaw. He's fourth choice under Mourinho and that's when he's fit! I would expect him to ask for a transfer this summer to try and get his career back on track.
 
Remember at Chelsea Mourinho had right footed not very attacking LB in Azpi. He might see the same in Darmian. I hope Shaw gets the spot back but, that probably will not happen.
I think those ideas of "replicating manager's old teams" live mostly in the minds of the fans. Managers don't think like that because it doesn't work in real life, in my opinion.
 
We absolutely need a LB.
We are the only top club on the planet without an attacking threat from fullback areas.
Valencia, although good at dominating his flank is hopeless in the final third.
I like Damian but he's even less of an attacking threat than Tony.
Mendy is a must imo.
 
Even by the standards of 'defensive full back' Darmian is terrible going forwards. When Azpilicueta played that role under Mourinho in 14/15 he created 0.62 chances per 90 minutes. Last season Darmian only managed 0.13. Valencia had 1.16.

It takes Darmian five games to create as much as another 'defensive full back' does in one. And it takes him ten games to create as much as a balanced full back like Valencia.

I agree with you on Shaw. He's fourth choice under Mourinho and that's when he's fit! I would expect him to ask for a transfer this summer to try and get his career back on track.

But Mourinho wants a 'defensive' fullback and an 'attacking' one in his starting 11. That's why he chooses Valencia and Darmian often. He doesn't want both fullbacks bombing forward unfortunately. Personally i'm not a huge fan of Darmian but I think with him and Shaw we are fine at LB for now. There are many other areas we need to address first.
 
But Mourinho wants a 'defensive' fullback and an 'attacking' one in his starting 11. That's why he chooses Valencia and Darmian often. He doesn't want both fullbacks bombing forward unfortunately. Personally i'm not a huge fan of Darmian but I think with him and Shaw we are fine at LB for now. There are many other areas we need to address first.

My point was that you can still be a defensive full back without being useless going forwards. Azpilicueta was a defensive full back under Mourinho and contributed a lot more offensively than Darmian does. Kolasinac was in the Bundesliga team of the season at left back and beats Darmian in every defensive metric (more tackles, more interceptions, more headers) but also contributes more to his team's attack than Darmian (more goals, more assists, more chances, more dribbles).

Darmian is simply a poor player no matter what the manager wants from him. Remember Mourinho publicly criticised Shaw at multiple times last season and in a post match interview described Rojo as 'a bad left back'. This highlights the quantity > quality problem we have in the position and has resulted in Darmian being our first choice not because he's good, but because our other options are as bad or worse. I struggle to see us becoming a top team until this problem is rectified.
 
My point was that you can still be a defensive full back without being useless going forwards. Azpilicueta was a defensive full back under Mourinho and contributed a lot more offensively than Darmian does. Kolasinac was in the Bundesliga team of the season at left back and beats Darmian in every defensive metric (more tackles, more interceptions, more headers) but also contributes more to his team's attack than Darmian (more goals, more assists, more chances, more dribbles).

Darmian is simply a poor player no matter what the manager wants from him. Remember Mourinho publicly criticised Shaw at multiple times last season and in a post match interview described Rojo as 'a bad left back'. This highlights the quantity > quality problem we have in the position and has resulted in Darmian being our first choice not because he's good, but because our other options are as bad or worse. I struggle to see us becoming a top team until this problem is rectified.
Darmian almost become the first choice LB by default, not because he was the best option, just that Mourinho didn't want Blind, Rojo or Shaw in there most of the time.
 
If you want to win titles, you dont go into season with an unestablished injury prone luke shaw, a utility player that lacks pace in Blind, an aged former winger playing on his wrong foot in Young, and an offensively clueless italian on his wrong foot in Darmian. That is a recipe for failure.

The team needs a solid LB going into the season, and when he is out, any of the mentioned four can fill in. But to rely on any of those guys against the best in europe would leave us praying to God for them to have mercy.

If you want to run a club successfully, you don't go on replacing players every couple of years. That does not guarantee success as well. Patience is a concept lost on the modern day fan. Luke Shaw's raw potential deserves at least 1 more year. And having 4 players for 1 position is stupid.
 
Just spend the £40 million that Monaco want for Mendy and use Shaw and CBJ as his back up, as "solid" as Darmian apparently is at left back his lack of balance or creativity or any attacking nous puts so much pressure on the left sided forward to be the sole focus of attack on that side whereas whoever plays on the right knows they'll have Valencia supporting.
 
I believe CBJ would potentially make a solid CB with his composure, tackling and passing ability also being 6"2 helps, so hopefully as I like the player he still has a future at the club.
Axel, Williams, TFM and maybe even Poole are better at CB. He is too timid and until he gets over that he can't play CB in the PL. Personally think Riley is a better fullback and Demi has potential too. Although I do like CBJ but the others are just better imo.
 
If you want to run a club successfully, you don't go on replacing players every couple of years. That does not guarantee success as well. Patience is a concept lost on the modern day fan. Luke Shaw's raw potential deserves at least 1 more year. And having 4 players for 1 position is stupid.
Luke Shaw has been at the club for 3 seasons and we are yet to see this raw potential materialize but you would have us waiting another season on him? This is not Shaw United!.Nobody is saying he should be sold but the club cannot go into a season betting on Shaw to fulfill his potential.
 
I think he's saying the opposite. Because he's English, some posters on here underrate him. At least thats what I thought he meant.
Yeah i knew that tbh i just fancied a sarcy reply. Loads of people seem to use that fallacy to hide their nationalist preferences.
 
I wouldn't want any new signings for left back.
I want to see a competition between Shaw and CBJ, and competition always spark up intensity and development.
We can also use Young and Blind as backups. No need for a mediocre left back signing that will hinder the developments of Shaw and CBJ.
If we're going to sign Marcelo-level left back, I'm in. But otherwise, I would go with what we already have.

I kind of agree, it is similar to our centre back situation. We have a lot of players can play in both positions but bar Bailly at centre back none have stood out, some are mediocre, some have had injury problems, some fall into both categories. But we do have numbers and we do have promising youngsters for both positions. Im all for signings in both, more centre back than left back for me, but most of the names I am seeing mentioned are no better or marginally better at best than what we already have. Doesnt have to be a big name but we dont need more numbers in the two position, in fact less would be better, only worth adding to if it is real genuine quality
 
With Mourinho preferring only one attacking full back, I think Rojo may ease into starting left back in upcoming season.
But I hope Shaw gets the job in long term.
 
With Mourinho preferring only one attacking full back, I think Rojo may ease into starting left back in upcoming season.
But I hope Shaw gets the job in long term.

Hope not as he is shite at left back actually worse than Darmian. Perhaps we will move to a three.
 
As long as Mourinho can get full backs who can both attack and defend then I don't buy into this idea that he only wants one attacking full back. It's not like he would refuse a full back just because he has attacking qualities.

All he has to do is instruct them that they can't both attack at the same time.