Shaw will be out the first decent offer comes in and good riddance . Darmian provides a lot more as a squad player and without the attitude
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Shaw will be out the first decent offer comes in and good riddance . Darmian provides a lot more as a squad player and without the attitude
I just had a look at transfermarkt.com who is the top 10 of leftbacks in Terms of estimated market value.
Blind and Shaw are in there as 6th and 7th
Not that I take this serious but I am afraid there are not too many top LBs being realistic Targets at the Moment.
With Lindelöf in Blind might get a lot of games as LB. I still believe that Blind could grow into a similar role like Carrick but it seems that won`t happen.
Blind and Shaw are in there as 6th and 7th
Not that I take this serious but I am afraid there are not too many top LBs being realistic Targets at the Moment.
With Lindelöf in Blind might get a lot of games as LB. I still believe that Blind could grow into a similar role like Carrick but it seems that won`t happen.
Cannot believe people think we don't need one.
Blind is brilliant
We'll be fine.
Was just about to post about this. We have absolutely nobody on that left side. Watching Blind there gives me cancer.
A pre season match. PRE SEASON.
Blind has delivered from left back for two seasons straight. Politely wind your neck in. We have Blind and we have Shaw. That's our left backs. Deal with it.
Blind has always been a wank left back
Blind is far from good enough, basing that on two seasons playing there. Far too slow and doesn't have other attributes to make up for it.
This is a pre season game, but the main problem with Blind is his lack of pace. When that Madrid youth player ran at him today, he always had the better of him. I for one can't wait for Shaw to come back.
Say that to @Minimalist - called me crazy for suggesting we require a new left back.
Blind was good in that half.
Darmian is fine there as well, as long as sick note Shaw is here don't be expecting a new left back.
Darmian is fine there as well, as long as sick note Shaw is here don't be expecting a new left back.
Blind is shite at left back, always has been.
Have we even been linked with anyone? Can only assume Jose has big hopes for Shaw this season.
Really? Good? He had one good cross, but mostly
He lost the ball through poor passing or, surprisingly bad touches. He was average at the very best.
Blind won the match lads. Get it up yas!
In all seriousness I rate Blind obviously. I don't know what the hell you lot have been watching - his pace has rarely been a problem despite all the talk about it. It's practically a RedCafe meme at this stage about he's going to get destroyed by such and such a winger/forward. Never happened. His intelligence sorts that weakness out most of the time.
Also some of you mentioned Shaw. I think you're having a laugh if you think Blind hasn't been more productive than Shaw. Blind can at least cross the fecking ball and provide some support.
In all seriousness I rate Blind obviously. I don't know what the hell you lot have been watching - his pace has rarely been a problem despite all the talk about it. It's practically a RedCafe meme at this stage about he's going to get destroyed by such and such a winger/forward. Never happened. His intelligence sorts that weakness out most of the time.
Also some of you mentioned Shaw. I think you're having a laugh if you think Blind hasn't been more productive than Shaw. Blind can at least cross the fecking ball and provide some support.
That's in poor taste.
The most pressing position would be defensive midfield, followed by a winger and then left-back. Watching Fellaini is a hell of a lot worse than Blind. Blind can do a job. But still, not sure he's good enough and is it too much to ask for 3 more signings? Who is there better though? Bertrand?
For me, Blind, Darmian, etc are okish. But I do think Jose, United, and even most of the fans want more than okish.
Weve seen standards set by the likes of Irwin and Evra.
Blind is good at doing a job, but in terms of potential you would think Shaw (if fit) would be the man for that role. Thats a big if of course.
Weve seen standards set by the likes of Irwin and Evra.
Blind is good at doing a job, but in terms of potential you would think Shaw (if fit) would be the man for that role. Thats a big if of course.
Blind is a CB or a number 6.
Mitchell should be getting more games until Shaw is fit. I also really rated Borthwick-Jackson when he got some games last season. He seemed mature beyond his years and he has an outstanding delivery on him.
Agree regarding Borthwick-Jackson, he looked very steady when he played; don't think he could do worse than Blind or Darmain, and given his height I'm surprised Mourinho hasn't taken to him more.
I think Jose has settled on Blind/Darmian/Shaw for the LB position.
They are all pretty average, but because we have 3 players vying for 1 position, I can't see Jose signing a LB. I think next season, we'll see 2 of those 3 moved on and a new LB (in his prime), enter.
They are all pretty average, but because we have 3 players vying for 1 position, I can't see Jose signing a LB. I think next season, we'll see 2 of those 3 moved on and a new LB (in his prime), enter.
Clearly need 1. Blind isn't good there. Darmian offers nothing going forward. Shaw is likely not the answer either.
The back up for this position currently is so easy to replace. Just don't get why we aren't in for one. Our wide play is so poor.
He had more than one good cross, and was generally tidy and actually looks to play the ball forward. He was good and should be starting left back in the upcoming season.
He's a classy player.
We have the guns Blind and Darmian
Convincing Woodward to spend on left back this summer could be hard as scoring a penalty, today.
If Shaw will have a finally a steady season and Mensah will play more, there will be a significant boost of needed pace but reality can work both ways... perhaps January will be time for awakening but I hope it won't be too late.
If Shaw will have a finally a steady season and Mensah will play more, there will be a significant boost of needed pace but reality can work both ways... perhaps January will be time for awakening but I hope it won't be too late.
We already have 3 players vying for the LB position.
Are you asking why we aren't looking to buy a 4th player for the LB position?
We won't be buying anybody in January. Last season we bought...zero players in January...correct?
Season before, in January, we bought zero players. Yes?
So, why would anybody think that this year will be any different?
We would buy Lindelof previous January if not the contract price complications, if I remember correctly.
Doubtful there's a rule of thumb when it comes to time of spending.
I'm saying bin them. They are all replaceable. Bin one of them. Don't care which one.
Jose is probably thinking that there aren't many options out there, and we have Blind, Shaw, Darmian, Mitchell, Rojo and even Young who he could get something out of at various points.
But it really is hard to get a well-balanced team without two reliable full-backs. All of the players I mentioned have severe limitations whether it be defensively, in attack or simply their age or injury record.
Plus, as I've mentioned in this thread, midfield and the wide areas are more pressing for me. If we get Blind to play there every week and get him settled there I'm sure he will do a decent job. Nothing special but I don't think you need a world class left back to win this league to be quite honest.
In the longer-term it is a position we need to sort. It's annoying as Luke Shaw looked set at the start of 15/16 and then that injury completely pulled him off-track.
But it really is hard to get a well-balanced team without two reliable full-backs. All of the players I mentioned have severe limitations whether it be defensively, in attack or simply their age or injury record.
Plus, as I've mentioned in this thread, midfield and the wide areas are more pressing for me. If we get Blind to play there every week and get him settled there I'm sure he will do a decent job. Nothing special but I don't think you need a world class left back to win this league to be quite honest.
In the longer-term it is a position we need to sort. It's annoying as Luke Shaw looked set at the start of 15/16 and then that injury completely pulled him off-track.
Both were poor and probably not good enough long term. Not the biggest issue per se but I can see that our left wing constantly struggles with them
1. Altho it is the weakest spot, it is definitely not the priority to strengthen. Our midfield, and especially attack definitely need to be priotized first
2. Plenty of mediocre options: Blind, Darmian, Young
3. Shaw's potential
4. Valencia to "balance out" the lack of width at left back, at times making the left back playing more defensive role
5. No more budget especially splashing out 75M++ for Lukaku
All in all, Jose expect left back to do just "okay".
Well of coz Jose "hope" to bring in a new player, given all the factors mentioned abov, the "reality" is just different.
And i think Shaw could be the wild card, if he could perform as expected, Jose could save up some budget here. Otherwise, he could bring in new player next season.
Its quite similar to 07/08 squad, where our right back seems like our weakest spot. Yet it was not the priority to strengthen. Wes brown/Oshea/Neville just did okay, Evra "balance out" the lack of width at right baxk, enough to won us Double. Well ppl need to realize that every position "need to be strengthened" is jz not the "reality", money is simply the biggest issue. Priority is key here
In other words, not that of a big deal for this position at the moment
2. Plenty of mediocre options: Blind, Darmian, Young
3. Shaw's potential
4. Valencia to "balance out" the lack of width at left back, at times making the left back playing more defensive role
5. No more budget especially splashing out 75M++ for Lukaku
All in all, Jose expect left back to do just "okay".
Well of coz Jose "hope" to bring in a new player, given all the factors mentioned abov, the "reality" is just different.
And i think Shaw could be the wild card, if he could perform as expected, Jose could save up some budget here. Otherwise, he could bring in new player next season.
Its quite similar to 07/08 squad, where our right back seems like our weakest spot. Yet it was not the priority to strengthen. Wes brown/Oshea/Neville just did okay, Evra "balance out" the lack of width at right baxk, enough to won us Double. Well ppl need to realize that every position "need to be strengthened" is jz not the "reality", money is simply the biggest issue. Priority is key here
In other words, not that of a big deal for this position at the moment
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The above makes sense, but imagine a scenario where neither Matic/DM or Perisic/LW get done. In such a case, if a promising LB were available, it only makes sense to do the deal as it would eventually have to be addressed (unless Jose actually rates & plays Mitchell).
We have enough issues in our team to deal with that we should give Shaw a season and see how it works out.
I know this is just pre-season, but Blind as a LB has been so poor on the ball.
Can't see us signing a LB this window. Jose has already said he'd be happy with 1 player, when in reality he wants 2- a midfielder and an attacker. Can't see us having 3 targets although I could be wrong.
More likely that not we will have to put our faith in Luke Shaw and hope he delivers. Our LB position has been below par for a number of seasons now and we need a good full back defensively, but to be better offensively.
More likely that not we will have to put our faith in Luke Shaw and hope he delivers. Our LB position has been below par for a number of seasons now and we need a good full back defensively, but to be better offensively.
We won't get a LB this year. Will have to wait and see how Shaw will get on. Screw it, just give Mitchell a chance. He surely can't fo any worse than Blind.