I hope Jose won't get that kind of silly ideas.
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It's not a silly idea just like it wasn't with Tony who has resurrected his career in the position, he's got the size and power and despite what you keep sayng every other report on him, be it positive or negative, says he works very hard defensively on the flank as I've said all along, so couple that with the fact he's bang average as a winger he could solve a problem posiiton for us and at his age give Shaw time to try and work his way back in.
Was it a silly idea when Jose wanted to buy Valencia to convert him to RB? Was it a silly idea to convert Valencia to RB where he has become arguably the best in the position in the PL? Jose is a manager that bought Paul Pogba for a world record fee and then constantly played him deeper in a formation that doesn't suit him, so I don't see what is so outlandish about takiing a very average winger and utilizng his best assets in a posiiton we need him in rather than sticking him further up where he has no more consistency of end product than the players we already have there..
His best asset isn't that he works hard. If we need a LB we should buy one not turn an all out old school winger into a LB. Valencia is an one off example. And don't remember when did Jose want to buy him to turn him into a RB.
It is his best asset, he's a poor dribbler and an average at best crosser, but he's tall and strong and athletic and runs all day, those are his qualities. As far as the Jose/Valencia thing goes, it was in an interview Jose gave about him when he called him the best RB in the world.
Jeez, just because a winger isn't a flair player doesn't mean they'll be a good full back. If we're signing Perisic it's not as a left back.
Well if he was already a RB how did he want to turn him in one? He said he would do it before too?
Doesn't matter. As for Perisic I think we'll have to disagree on that one. Still think it would be silly.
LB shouldn't just run up and down and be strong and athletic.
In the interview Jose said he was an admirer of Valencia when he was ar Real and wanted to buiy him to use as a RB as he'd always felt he'd be great there, then he said that he's now become the best RB in the world.
Neither should a winger but here we are.
Yeah cause that's all Perisic does, right.
What else does he do in attack? He's not a good dribbler, he pushes it and runs fast then tries to put a cross in, he's about as basic as it gets, I don't see what's so harsh about that, and on top of that it wouldn't even be the worst thing if he had a consistent delivery, but he doesn't, even the Inter fans that like him admitted he's very hit and miss, which in a player of his age is not great.
Hit and miss in the sense he goes missing from games sometimes not that he isn't a good dribbler or doesn't have a good shot on him which he has both. But I reckon you've watched him lots of time aside from YouTube clips so you know what are you talking about.
You as well? I honestly thought there was someone here who could have a discussion without the usual petty jibes, nevermind, oh, and hit and miss in terms of his delivery.
So. Have you seen him in action lots of times or not? It's a normal question.
Yes, I said that the other day, I got the Spanish inquisition from the usual set on here that think everyone that isn't in favour of a transfer only plays FM and watches Youtube, as if BT and Sky aren't showing a couple of dozen live games every weekend.
Did you miss all the seasons when Valencia was tearing apart LBs in the league for fun and swept all ManUtd awards so easily?
Don't want to be rude, did you watch Perisic playing for Inter?
OK I believe you watched Inter Milan games regularly.
I don't think a left back is much of a priority as Jose seems to like Darmian. He also tends to like having one attacking full back and one more defensive one that can tuck in and help out the CBs as required - Darmian seems well suited to that role.
I don't see what that has to do with what Jose said about converting him to RB.
Yes.
Do you out of curiosity? Or do you just watch him for Croatia?
Yes I did, not just for Croatia.
Ok, do you agree with the view that he's usually much better for Crotatia than Inter? He reminds me of Podolski in this way.
Yes, I said that since the news emerged but obviously Croatia plays much fewer games. He's our 2nd most important player after Modric of course.
He should be more consistent but with better surrounding, better manager and better player he could really shine imo.
It's a Croatian player so I'm ecstatic finally our player could play for United but in the same time careful. I'm well aware about his shortcomings.
Let's take this to his thread.
If Shaw is gone in a swap for Rose, Perisic will play in his favored position at LM/LW.
What? Where is this coming from?
I don't have much hope of Shaw. He doesn't have the bone structure to ever be a consistent fit player.
Just do a search for 'Danny Rose'.
Ah, looks like mostly unreliable sources at the moment though. Would be an immense signing if we could pull it off, wouldn't hold my breath with Levy though.
I guess it's not hard to put two and two together. "Shaw played under Poch, had a bad season, ergo imminent transfer..." Not that I would mind this move; Tottenham already have a decent squad option in Davies, so having Shaw as a 1a option (albeit injury/fitness prone) wouldn't be too detrimental.
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The main problem is his fitness though. Isn't Rose coming off the back of a pretty bad injury? When he was fit and firing though he was the best LB in the league.
Can't see Spurs selling both Rose and Walker in one summer. It's Levy after all.
He will be an upgrade over Shaw in every perspective.
He will be an upgrade over Shaw in every perspective.
MCL damage is much less serious than Shaw's foot ligament damage. Rose can play/train in pre-season whereas Shaw might not even be ready to train at the start of the upcoming season.
I'd love us to get Rose, best LB in the league imo. Would forget about Mendy very quickly if we got Rose.
He's a bit like Ljungberg, not much flair but work rate, runs and goals. (Perisic).
Perisic is not a LB, so can we please stop talking about him in this thread.
Do you have a proof that Jose wanted to buy Valencia because he wanted him to play as a right back?? Valencia was converted as a right back by LVG not Jose. And SAF did use him as a right back but only because when we needed a goal in the last 15 minutes by playing 2 attacking mid/wingers on the wing and Valencia as a right back.
May be Jose wanted to buy Valencia so he can play him as a right winger not as a right back.
I do believe it's better to buy a natural full back to play in our left back than try something silly that is not* worthy to take risk and cost a lot of money when we can avoid it by buying different players who can play as a left back. And size and power aren't the two things what makes Valencia becomes one of the best RB in PL right now. His defending ability has improved, he can tackle and read the game well now!
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Sorry to quote same message again but he's been there for 2 seasons now. If City do get Mendy, we would probably have a clear run at Sandro €50m euros is close to £40m which I think Juve would let him go for, maybe less Im just guessing.
Oh, you are right. Completely forgot about his first season for some reason. Well then, forget what I said!
Valencia isn't that good attacking wise, if anything he should be the more defensive fullback. It is absolutely crucial that we sign atleast one attacking fullback.
Oh, come on mate. Give this guy a break. He is a very good winger. What else does a taditional winger do? He is supposed to try and beat his opponents on the wings, put in a cross or try to cut in and shoot. He should basically be able to add to goals and assists. Plus of course, track back to support the full back behind him. That's what the traditional wing man does these days. How is Perisic average in this regard? Not everyone can dribble like Neymar. Most wing men today beat their opponents with pace and body movements. William, Pedro, Sane, Bale, etc. They push the ball, run, cut in, shoot.
Please go and check one of the best wingers of all time: Arjen Robben. What does he really do? He pushes the ball, outruns his opponent, cuts in, and shoots or crosses. Only thing is that he has absolutely mastered it.
I am not saying Perisic is Robben or Neymar or even Bale but where you can't get such players, he is certainly in the rank below them. As for United, we do not currently have a winger better than Perisic so can we just chill a bit and trust Jose to have the sense to pick a winger he believes will improve his team? If he gets it wrong, well, I am sure he knows what could be the consequences.
My only problem is cost. They have to get the cost right. You don't want to over pay for a 28yr old but even this is very subjective.