Aren't there questions about his lack of mobility and being one footed?
Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed
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Don't see this as a good signing. Chelsea buy Bakayoko and sell Magic to United. That tells you all you need to know about where Magic stands with them. He was amazing 3 years ago but had a big drop off. Why not go for Fabinho? So much better...
He's not far off any of the other 4 who has played same position last year.
Nice we already have a nickname for him
Tbh I rate him and Bakayoko about the same. Maybe Matic even a bit higher. Fabinho a bit higher than both. Dier between Bakayoko and Matic.
I cannot really think of too many Players that would fulfill that role as a DM for us and would be worth their asking Price. Kroos or Verratti. Rakitic but not for 50 Mio.
I would love to see Blind given a shot. He has the attributes that are needed. Or we Play 4-2-3-1 as main Formation.
I always say this, and it's so true. Knows the workings of our defense, sometimes was dead center of it, and has a nice long ball. No idea why he isn't there.
To be fair, Magic was absolutely brilliant back in the day for the Lakers.
As a defensive midfielder Matic is better than Bakayoko.
Bakayoko is not a holding player. He's a box to box midfielder who hunts the ball. I don't know why he's seen as a defensive midfielder in England. Fabinho is Monaco's holding player. Then again the English media decided Fellaini was a holding player cos he's tall. So...
If we are looking at a pure #6 Matic is a great option.
Bakayoko is not a holding player. He's a box to box midfielder who hunts the ball. I don't know why he's seen as a defensive midfielder in England. Fabinho is Monaco's holding player. Then again the English media decided Fellaini was a holding player cos he's tall. So...
If we are looking at a pure #6 Matic is a great option.
Blind is certainly worth considering but I'll take Matic over Blind as a DM every day of the week. I think Matic is under rated. The guy is a beast and he has some arsenals in his locker. E.g a thunderbolt of a shot and good passing range. What is his obvious weakness (slow pace), happens to be Blind's weakness too so I don't see the advantages Blind has over him. Fabinho is a different ball game entirely. Younger, quicker and gets more involved in games. He will be my first choice. Not a fan of Dier but I can see why Jose might like him. He puts in the shift 100% even if he lacks creativity.
He's not far off any of the other 4 who has played same position last year.
This is so close yet it was supposed to be a season in which Matic was far from his best.
If he gets back to his best under Jose, he will be one heck of a signing.
I think Gueye would be a far better fit than Matic, personally. The thing is, Matic barely features on any lists for tackles, interceptions etc, from last season which is quite worrying. I feel he's an ok player that had one really good season and he's now declining.
As a Chelsea fan, I'd have absolutely no issue in you signing Matic, you guys are so welcome to him especially if you want to give us 40 million
Why would Chelsea ever sell him to a direct rival?
Would be a solid, decent signing. Can see why people are underwhelmed, not a fancy signing.
My concern is if the 40mil price tag is true, then surely 50mil for Dier is better value as they are similar in qualities and Dier can play more positions and is 4/5 years younger?
My concern is if the 40mil price tag is true, then surely 50mil for Dier is better value as they are similar in qualities and Dier can play more positions and is 4/5 years younger?
Yes and it's a terrible combination to have. Obviously there are angles that make it difficult for a left footed player to make a certain pass that a right footed can make with ease. Of course you can say the opposite is true, which it is, but when you combine the lack of mobility, you shrink the amount of possible passes Matic can achieve exponentially. Xavi was press resistant, Matic is....
As a Chelsea fan, I'd have absolutely no issue in you signing Matic, you guys are so welcome to him especially if you want to give us 40 million
I second this.
Because at the quoted price, we'd be the one's ripping you off without question.
Thats pretty much it. There wont be any improvements from him in this league, he is slowly declining and in a few years we will be left with a player that would be not good enough to start anymore and he will be on decent wages. Chelsea would be laughing all the way to the bank, we could/should do much better, plenty of promising and good midfield players around.
He's been in the league for 3 and a half seasons, and been a starter basically every week for a team that's won the league twice in that time period.
He's clearly not as bad as some make out on here.
He's clearly not as bad as some make out on here.
What a ridiculous statement. A left footed player playing centrally will have just as many options as a right footed player providing a team attacks both sides equally.
Very valid point. Unless it boils down to Matic being much easier to obtain than Dier.
Wanted him a year ago because I think he does what he does well, sure one dimensional with a bit of a spark from time to time but he is good. However, with other players on the market such as Fabinho, I'd rather us go for him instead of Matic. If we did sign Matic though, he would be a step in the right direction, we need some sort of defensive anchor in midfield, he would provide us with protection for Pogba.
If we bring him purely to play infront of our defenders and slot in at CB when lindelof or Bailly want to get forward I don't feel he needs those attributes at all.
I would prefer him over Dier.
It would be a very boring signing. But typical of Jose, and probably just the sort of reliable player we need right now.
Please dont sign him,cant deal with posts of lunatics during the season.
Have no idea why many dont rate him.
Watched majority of Chelsea games last season; he was very good imo.
But in the part of the campaign when they were not playing well, their fans were trashing Matić all the time.
I suspect a lot of people still analysing midfielders with a 4-4-2 mentality.
Watched majority of Chelsea games last season; he was very good imo.
But in the part of the campaign when they were not playing well, their fans were trashing Matić all the time.
I suspect a lot of people still analysing midfielders with a 4-4-2 mentality.
I really cant stand this guy
I saw the stats and he is better than Matic or Dier.
As a Chelsea fan, I'd have absolutely no issue in you signing Matic, you guys are so welcome to him especially if you want to give us 40 million
What about hazard
?I think his very next sentence caveats that exact point? But he then goes on to say "combined with a lack of pace, etc, etc"?
Actually you'd be hurting yourselves. He is entering his peak years and has proven more than capable of operating a key role in a title winning project twice
Weren't Matic one of the main ones that fell out with Jose at Chelsea along with Hazard and Fabregas ? Just don't see it happening and thing is Jose is no fool so why would we go for a player who isn't as good as other options that are likely available for the right price like Fabinho ?
Seems entirely possible that there really is a 'list' that Jose gave the club, and that in the DMF position, Matic's name is on the list.
But it should not be at the top of the list. If it was, I'd imagine this would already be done.
But it should not be at the top of the list. If it was, I'd imagine this would already be done.
It's hard to know, but Fabregas was one of the ones that stayed with Mourinho till the end. Matic is a strange one, hard to work out whether he wasn't playing for the manager of simply has declined.
Jose probably believes that acquiring Matic would be a damned sight easier than dealing with that cnut Levy
I'm not sure on Matic at all... I mean, he's good, but hardly someone to take us up a level.
Plus, DM is seemingly the position in world football where there actually is an abundance of talent... A move for Matic might be a bit short sighted in this regard.
Plus, DM is seemingly the position in world football where there actually is an abundance of talent... A move for Matic might be a bit short sighted in this regard.
No thanks
I had assumed that Perisic would be next through the door and that Matic/Morata would have to wait until after the tour. Looks like Matic could be next though.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...35million-Tiemoue-Bakayoko.html#ixzz4kfw391j1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...35million-Tiemoue-Bakayoko.html#ixzz4kfw391j1
not sure the issue you lot have with Matic. Hes been integral to Chelsea winning the league twice, Hardly injured, knows the league, speaks english, knows what jose wants and would fit in a 4231 seamlessly. Whats not to want? because hes Chelseas sloppy seconds?
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