Just couldn't get on board with this signing. He's so limited.
Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed
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He was really good for his first 12 months back at Chelsea. Hasn't been the same since for whatever reason.
Probably the fact that he's not much better than average and is on a slow but steady decline.
'Fits in a 4231 seamlessly' at the cost of who? He isn't better than either of the two who already start there.
Seriously what's the issue. The man passes a football at Carrick level. No he doesn't run around like a maniac but we have Herrara. Name the last time Chelsea got outrun, except for our impressive one off display.
isnt that where he played when chelsea won the league last time under Jose? And who says hes average? You? Since when does a Dm need to be lightning quick? Steady decline? based on what? He just won the league again and was part of chelseas main XI keeping fabregas out. I honestly dont see the issue with signing him as he offers a much different set of qualities to all of our CMs.
Not sure how I feel about this.
I think that he is a good player. Solid, knows the league, uninspiring etc etc. Similar to Perisic potential signing, it is a very not exciting signing and I feel that there are better options right there. But I think that Jose is going for safe signings, rather than for players who could be really great. Don't think that I like this but it is to be expected under Jose.
I think that he is a good player. Solid, knows the league, uninspiring etc etc. Similar to Perisic potential signing, it is a very not exciting signing and I feel that there are better options right there. But I think that Jose is going for safe signings, rather than for players who could be really great. Don't think that I like this but it is to be expected under Jose.
Perisic, Matic... Shiteic next at this stage. Terrible I know
Feck off!
He's a footballer if you compare him to Fellaini. But i would still prefer somebody else. Matic is not bad but this team will not raise to the next level with players like Matic and Perisic. We need players from one tier above. And right now i would even prefer skilful high risk-high reward signings ahead of low risk-low reward workhorses. But i feel like Jose is actually searching experienced low risk-low reward workhorses.
Like?
Remember Jose subbed him on at half time v Southampton and subbed him off 15 mins later? That was rough.
Another slow, lumbering tree is not what we need, he's clearly declined since he came to Chelsea, with Pogba you need the partner to not only be able to read the game well defensively but he needs to be able to cover a lot of ground, Matic is a sloth around the pitch and is no great shakes on the ball.
would have liked Modric
yes it is. Maybe you could try without letter "e", not many of our last names have vowel before "ic", so Shitic, and there you go. Nice name, it can be traslated as little s*it.Yes, I'm bored.
We missed the boat with Modric big time. He wanted to leave Spurs in 2011 and Madrid weren't in for him. Chelsea wouldn't go above £40m.
He would've been worth that and a lot more.
He'd be decent in 3 man midfield where you sit him infront of the back 4, have Herrera zipping about and Pogba roaming, he'd give us options.
25mill and I'd be okay with it, I'd rather Fabinho or even Dier honestly but at the end of the day he'd give us options for the bigger games.
25mill and I'd be okay with it, I'd rather Fabinho or even Dier honestly but at the end of the day he'd give us options for the bigger games.
Is it?
Mokbel is a terrible journalist.
If we get him, then obviously we can't play with him alone with Pogba due to him being slow and that will make the midfield a real liability. We we'll have to play him with Herrera and Pogba, as Herrera will be the Kante-esque for him with him moving and pressing everywhere will do for Matic being slow. They'll both allow Pogba to attack freely and we can get 100% of him.
He's not the ideal signing, in fact he's the bottom of my wishlist in this position, but if used correctly he can be a solid addition, like how Chelsea used him with Kante this season.
Anyone saying him and Herrera will be a dull defensive midfield, Chelsea played with a 7 defensive-minded players last season ( 3 defenders, 2 wing backs and 2 DMFs ) and were still really strong on the offense. It'll be about the system, not gathering all attacking players available on the field. Unleashing Pogba free on the attack will be great for our offensive contributions.
He's not the ideal signing, in fact he's the bottom of my wishlist in this position, but if used correctly he can be a solid addition, like how Chelsea used him with Kante this season.
Anyone saying him and Herrera will be a dull defensive midfield, Chelsea played with a 7 defensive-minded players last season ( 3 defenders, 2 wing backs and 2 DMFs ) and were still really strong on the offense. It'll be about the system, not gathering all attacking players available on the field. Unleashing Pogba free on the attack will be great for our offensive contributions.
Nothing reliable linking Matic to us. I wouldn't lose any sleep over gossip from Sami Mokbel.
Reading comprehension an issue? Decided to stop reading at that sentence?
A midfield trio of Herrera, Matic and Pogba would be fecking excellent. Would really be tough to break down with good attack. Very balanced imo.
De Gea
Valencia - Bailly - Lindelof - Shaw
Matic
Herrera - Pogba
Mikhi - Morata - Perisic
Valencia - Bailly - Lindelof - Shaw
Matic
Herrera - Pogba
Mikhi - Morata - Perisic
That can work, but will need both Shaw and Mikhi to step up heavily. I put Shaw here despite everything about him because he's the only LB we have that can be considered offensive and we'll need offensive contributions from the flanks in 4-3-3, Darmian be used if we want to go more defensive in big games. Obviously I'll prefer to get a new shiny offensive LB, though.
And we still have Mata, Martial and Rashford on the bench, great subs used later in the game to add more offensive contributions if needed.
With the good system and some players stepping up, this can work.
His peak years? I guess you haven't been watching him the last 2 seasons. One more season like the previous 2 and he's entering Mikel type levels.
Chelsea will just take the money and buy someone who is probably already better than Matic in Bakayoko.
Like everybody who are more skilful and creative than Perisic or Matic. Our biggest problem is goal scoring, lack of creativity etc etc. I would like to see us sign James Rodriguez or Douglas Costa type of players. Or even Diego fecking Costa. Players with higher roof. Even if they are not Premier league proven or there is some questionmarks with their attitude, English weather/culture or what ever. To DMF i would prefer Fabinho, like many other too. Verratti would be exactly what we need but he's not available. I would even take Di Maria back ahead of Perisic. He simply is better and more talented footballer.
I think he would be a great signing and would complement our midfield perfectly. Surely no galactico signing, but someone who's true value would be evident after a few games and who will add some much needed balance and stability to the team. Getting him in for a reasoable fee would be great business. With that said, I can't see Chelsea selling him. They lack depth in central midfield, have more games to play due to being back in Europe and he suits the system like a glove.
Very hard to get excited about this kind of signing 
Why do Chelsea want to let him go?
Yes, agreed. I reckon that's exactly how we'll line up next year.
Because they have better players incoming.
This.
People only want fancy names, not thinking about which players actually works together.
Think those 3 with Micky on one side, new LW/Martial/Rashford, and a top striker, would be pretty sweet tbh.
Alot more safe than buying a young lad with one good season in France, who doesn't know the league.
There are plenty of talented players out there, but finding those who work well together, and in Mourinho's tactics, is what's needed to challenge.
who gets excited about signing any Defensive midfielderVery hard to get excited about this kind of signing
As if Veratti wouldn't get you excited?
If we're really after a player like this I'd prefer Dendoncker of Anderlecht. His passing is excellent. He has physical strength. His defensive workrate is impressive. He was playing as makeshift CB towards the end of the tie when Rashford scored, but as a defensive midfielder he's excellent.
I would be happy to have him. He's what I would call a deep-lying play maker. Not a Defensive midfielder. Two completely different roles and playing styles.
Isn't he a bit too old? Buying a really tall 29 years old DM doesn't sound like good piece of business.
My perception is he isn't inconsistent over a season, had a great season a couple of seasons back but has been lukewarm since. Probably wrong. Also not sure why'd he'd leave, unless we threw a ton at him. Not bothered.
IMO we aren't going to sign this guy since we aren't interested in Fabinho. To me both of them have similar playing style as a midfielder. And also Matic is an important player for Conte's 343 system (even if Conte sign a new top class midfielder, Matic is likely going to be his 3rd choice ahead of Fabregas). I doubt Matic wants to leave Chelsea now anyway and Conte will not let him go easily and cheaply. So move on.
please god no
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