Whenever I think of him I just think cumbersome. Would like us to sign a more dynamic player in that role.
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He's not far off any of the other 4 who has played same position last year.
Agreed he doesn't look to be performing worse than Herrera and Kante. But what stands out to me here is Bakayoko being absolutely the best of the lot...significantly so
People in here saying he's only a slight improvement on Fellaini 
The Caf at it's best. The man has started consistently for Chelsea in both of their titlewinning seasons. And his season was nowhere near as bad as people make out (how bad can you be if you start for the title winner?). The man had more PL assists than any of our players this season, and yet some are making him out to be some donkey on the ball. I like Matic a lot, and seeing what he did under Mourinho two seasons ago I would be very happy with this signing. Premier League experienced, and has had proven success in the league as well.
The Caf at it's best. The man has started consistently for Chelsea in both of their titlewinning seasons. And his season was nowhere near as bad as people make out (how bad can you be if you start for the title winner?). The man had more PL assists than any of our players this season, and yet some are making him out to be some donkey on the ball. I like Matic a lot, and seeing what he did under Mourinho two seasons ago I would be very happy with this signing. Premier League experienced, and has had proven success in the league as well.So our signings will probably consist of a benchwarmer and someone picked from Chelsea's dustbin?
What? Absolute bonkers.
Don't you mean Herrera?
So you think we won't sign Morata and Matic?
Agreed. He's a good ball player, and can pass. He's not just some purely defensive meathead who breaks up the play. Would like a midfielder who is good with the ball please, no matter what their specific role in the team is.People in here saying he's only a slight improvement on Fellaini
Technically a very limited player, not what we should be looking to sign. An awful signing if true and at £40m we really are becoming Liverpool.
Looking at those stats can we buy another AH please?
The "bench warmer" you say scored more goals than the first choice striker itself from the bench and limited starts only second to Cristiano Ronaldo in Madrid squad. His hold up play and creative technical skills will replace ibra well with a better mobility as a focal point.
Someone picked up from chelsea s dustbin? What does that even mean?
He has won 2 epl titles in his 3 year stint at Chelsea and is a top cdm with positional dicipline , physicality and creative passing range, sometime acts as a destroyer too in high pressure to beat the pressure. And would weaken the direct title rivals.
Complete nonsensical words used to devaluate the two in your post.
if rumours are true and Chelsea are willing to let him go to improve upon him shouldn't we be fighting for the upgrade too?
then again Mourinho knows the player and maybe he's the right fit/character
I'd prefer Fabinho myself as he looks a more mobile and technical player
then again Mourinho knows the player and maybe he's the right fit/character
I'd prefer Fabinho myself as he looks a more mobile and technical player
Morata is a reserve right? Also if Matic leaves its because Chelsea doesn't want him anymore
Yes it's hilarious that we're looking to sign a player Chelsea are looking to upgrade after winning the title....
Conte apparently wants rid to upgrade in that position and quite frankly, I wouldn't blame him. Matic was never a great player, he simply had one very good season and that's it really. Apart from that, he's been decent but he was poor last season and it's clear as day he's declining. If we sign him and Chelsea sign a better player, that's not going to be good business for us.
Bakayoko is certainly an upgrade on Matic
A very underwhelming signing if true. Help fund Chelsea upgrading in midfield by signing the player they want to upgrade. Would hardly be the move of a team looking to challenge for the title.
Matic is actually decent technically. His passing, ball control and movement with a ball are good. He also strikes the ball pretty well. My problem is his pace and age. That's where the cost issue comes in for me. I think 40 million will be too high for a DM of his age.
In football 1 + 1 is not always equal to 2.
You cannot say that a player is bad for United just because he is a reject elsewhere. It doesn't follow. We have seen players rejected in one team but become extremely pivotal for another team that is in no way inferior to the first team.
The argument against Magic should be his actual playing quality rather than the fact that Chelsea want to replace him.
Looks like he is our first option infront of fabinho. Now chelsea are close to bakayoko(who we were also interested in) we are getting leftovers on the plate.
I want to trust mourinho but our window is looking very very underwhelming right now. Lindelof, Morata,Matic and Perisic are not signings that will effect the team well. Also I think liverpool are buying the better winger from Seria A who is more exciting and efficient. It looks like we are saving money with those signings. Apart from Morata who himself is over valued, all our signings will be in the 30 million bracket.
I want to trust mourinho but our window is looking very very underwhelming right now. Lindelof, Morata,Matic and Perisic are not signings that will effect the team well. Also I think liverpool are buying the better winger from Seria A who is more exciting and efficient. It looks like we are saving money with those signings. Apart from Morata who himself is over valued, all our signings will be in the 30 million bracket.
Yes, we brought him last season. His name is Paul Pogba.
This is absolutely the key here, Mourinho knows him and knows that what he brings to the team will augment what Herrera and Pogba already bring to the table.
people are mental, our best midfield was Giggs, Scholes, Keane and Beckham. Having 4 of any of them wouldn't work, you need to match the flair of some players with the gritty determination of others. We're not signing Matic to score goals its to free up others. If Mourinho is convinced he's the right signing then so be it. We've all the money in the world so Mourinho is not being forced to go after him.
Exaggerating much?
Are we allowed to sing Vidic's song for him? 
Makes me wanna eat out of a dustbin then: De Bruyne, Lukaku, Mata, etc.
This is Hard to say before we see Bakayoko in the prem though. Has looked a bit raw when I've watched him, but talent is there. Needs to settle first. Matic is already settled - so thats a win for us.
To be honest I would much prefer players who JM wants who he thinks will work best with our system
If Matic is that player so be it. People just want muppett signings, which lets face it havent worked so far mostly
If Matic is that player so be it. People just want muppett signings, which lets face it havent worked so far mostly
Throwing bakayoko in there was unecessary, the other 3 share the same league, more accurate to compare them since they've all played vs the same teams. Ligue 1 is a pub league, stat inflation will exist no doubt.
Never been a big fan of him apart from that 1 season when Chelsea won the league with Mourinho. Best in the league for that one season, but has been nowhere near at any other point. I just don't think he is the answer. Fabinho ticks so many boxes. His is at the right age we should be looking at, and his ability to play in other positions is a big plus. I think he brings more of what we need in terms of replacing Carrick in a midfield 3. Fabinho, Herrera, Pogba is incredibly more balanced than Matic, Herrera, Pogba.
Only thing I don't like about him is that he turns 29 in August. Bit younger and he would be an ideal signing. But maybe Mourinho thinks we need more experience. You just know he is dreaming about a Pogba, Matic, Fellaini midfield.
there is just 1 top quality player in that list
This transfer window is turning sour..
Nothing that makes you go ooohhhh linked to with us.. Perisic, Matic and others are being linked.. Ronnie of course has his usual nostalgic return moment.
Why don´t we sign Drogba just to cap it off?
Nothing that makes you go ooohhhh linked to with us.. Perisic, Matic and others are being linked.. Ronnie of course has his usual nostalgic return moment.
Why don´t we sign Drogba just to cap it off?
We won't be closing the gap to the other sides with signings like Perisic and Matic. They may be decent squad options but that's it. Our best hope would be Mkhitaryan and Martial rediscover their form from two seasons ago in order for a title challenge to occur.
Closing the gap on who? Matic has just won the league with Chelsea has he not, so why can he not feature a future title winning side of Man Utd?
I'd be happy with that team, especially if Morata gets to grips with the league quickly.
Off the top of my head:
Veratti
Matuidi
Nainggollan
Bakayoko
Fabinho
Weigl
Saul
Illaremendi
Gueye
Ndidi
Dier
Matic
That is obviously not including people like Kante and Busquets, and then ell you've even got people like N'Zonzi and Romeu playing pretty well there.
yes, ideally we would look to a better player than Matic. Good player, but we could and should do better, with Perisic similar thing. By no means bad players, but just a tad underwhelming and both clubs happy to sell for a good fee.I dont know if it is enough for a title challenge, but if Jose can get the best out of them for a few years,who knows, but with normal form and looking over their last few years, overall quite disappointing.
He's not far off any of the other 4 who has played same position last year.
This is the problem with stats when it comes to analysing footballers and especially midfielders. There isn't a stat to say how good his passing quality and range is, there isn't a pre-assist stat, there isn't a stat for his close control, there isn't a stat for how good his first touch is.
So on forums people analyse midfielders based on how many challenges they get into and win and if they get any assists. It's massively limited.
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