Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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:lol: we're paying Chelsea to buy a player we wanted and taking their reject in one move.

Even if he is a good player it is going to get ripped on by rival fans
 
I'm fine with buying him for £35m-£40m if Jose thinks he is what he needs. I can see him freeing Pogba to play further up, allow Ander to play with freedom, solidify the defence and keep it well shielded. And above all seeing less of Fellaini on the pitch.
But we want Pogba playing deeper so he can dictate the game as he did against England.
 
Done deal, medical within 48 hrs. Why you wouldn't go after a young talent like Fabihno is beyond me.
With a name like yours I'd assume you were a United fan, but the use of "you" in your post above suggests otherwise.
 
Yep. Woodward isn't the sharpest is he? Christ some of these posts are hopeless.

I'm just watching this thread unfold before my eyes. The hysteria is deafening. Maybe we should let these folk run the club?
 
statistically, fellaini adds more to our midfield than matic does. Fellaini is a better key passer, wins more tackles, wins more aerial duels and basically intercepts the same.

Surely this cant be true ?
 
Matic at his best is a monster. Plenty of players can have an extended dip in form doesn't mean he can't recapture his old self at all. At the very least he adds balance to the midfield and allows Herrera to push further on where he has the ability to hurt teams more and press off the front foot. Matic doesn't need to be incredibly creative, we have 2 guys already more than capable of taking that mantle from midfield.
 
He is! sometimes I don't feel he gets the credit he deserves particularly from the pundits there too busy drooling over Kante who is a fantastic midfielder but Herrera for me is just as good.

Herrera is better.

Stats say otherwise. Kante is just the media darling at the moment. That'll soon change as it always does.
Pretty much everyone's unanimous player of the year, including the player of the year as voted on by his fellow players. He was the key player in back to back title wins.

But Ander fecking Herrera is better. Stats are everything. :lol::lol::lol:

Anyways, on topic here, I think you guys will warm to Matic. Reading this forum will make you think he's an utter donkey like Fellaini who does nothing more than take up space on the pitch. He won't wow anyone and won't make the flashy Pogba passes but he'll be a solid 7/10 player most games.
 
He's probably using 'you' as in 'one'......if you get my drift.
Most likely. Would love to know how he knows it is a done deal though. So many ITK's on here lately I can't keep track. :lol:
 
I'm just watching this thread unfold before my eyes. The hysteria is deafening. Maybe we should let these folk run the club?

yet folks on the other side keep pushing this narrative that matic adds something to our midfield, when statistically, he doesn't.
 
A Chelsea fan on another forum that I frequent was asked for his thoughts on Matic. This was his opinion:

His first year for us he was very good indeed, seemed to always be in the right place to snuff things out and was a decent enough passer.

Since then though he's been a real letdown, slow and ponderous out of possession and not at all incisive with it. He won't be missed by anyone really as there's a lack of dynamism in his play. He also, for want of a better term, seems to play 'small' he's a big unit, but never really appears to be such on the pitch, he's not someone I've seen really dominate the opposition in the way that say... Michael Ballack used to do.

I don't think he'll be much missed or have the fans up in arms.

He's a pretty honest bloke that knows his football so I'd be inclined to put quitr a bit of stock in his opinion.
 
Pretty much everyone's unanimous player of the year, including the player of the year as voted on by his fellow players. He was the key player in back to back title wins.

But Ander fecking Herrera is better. Stats are everything. :lol::lol::lol:

Anyways, on topic here, I think you guys will warm to Matic. Reading this forum will make you think he's an utter donkey like Fellaini who does nothing more than take up space on the pitch. He won't wow anyone and won't make the flashy Pogba passes but he'll be a solid 7/10 player most games.


Yep..I agree.....and the reason why Mourinho is keen on him.
 
Nemanja Matic is miles improvement on Fellaini, that's a start I guess.
Fellaini never plays a defensive role though, he's usually the furthest fecking forward out the 3.
 
You are absolutely right why on earth did the commentator say Matuidi..... feck sake now I look ridiculous :nervous:
You're cool, man.

Well out of them Busquets is the only one with signifigant time as a single pivot and is pretty mobile, Alonso played the bulk of his career in a 2 and so did Carrick. You need to be able to get across the park to cover the fullbacks on both flanks if you are the single pivot and have 2 #8's pushing on ahead of you.
Both Carrick and Alonso won the Champions League in a 4-3-3. I don't think you have to cover the fullbacks either. I think you're too much out of position if you're doing that.
 
I'm just watching this thread unfold before my eyes. The hysteria is deafening. Maybe we should let these folk run the club?
Look I don't really want Matic but what can you do? I guess getting hysterical and whining like an 8 year old is one option!
 
So first Ogden and now Jamie Jackson reporting that Matic is coming to United. Talk about an underwhelming signing. Maybe Mourinho can get the best out of him but I can't say I'm excited about the prospect of Matic playing for United.
 
Anyways, on topic here, I think you guys will warm to Matic. Reading this forum will make you think he's an utter donkey like Fellaini who does nothing more than take up space on the pitch. He won't wow anyone and won't make the flashy Pogba passes but he'll be a solid 7/10 player most games.
And yet you don't seem that arsed about him going. Your only concern is the amount of games you will play, and would like to keep him because of this reason, not for the football he produces.
 
statistically, he's not. Fellaini is a better key passer, wins more tackles, wins more aerial duels and basically intercepts the same.

Better key passer? Hardly. he always plays safe ignoring to play forward when a simple pass would open up the defense.
 
@Orc funnily enough when the stats were all in Kante's favour, the fan boys were throwing them out all over the place. But when the stats aren't as much in his favour, they're meaningless. Absolutely hilarious. Most overrated player I've ever witnessed who was rubbish against a lot of the betters sides last season; Us, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool spring to mind.

So yeah give me Ander 'fecking' Herrera any day of the week. Thank you very much.
 
statistically, he's not. Fellaini is a better key passer, wins more tackles, wins more aerial duels and basically intercepts the same.

Feck statistics, I've been following Matic from before Benfica, I don't need stats to know that Fellaini is not even close to Nemanja regarding anything but elbowing, that is where Fella excels I guess.
 
Jose knows the kind of players he needs, and what he can get out of those he relies on. John Terry was out of favour at Chelsea and looking past it until Mourinho came back and turned him, and Matic, back into PFA team of the year players again in 2015.
 
yet folks on the other side keep pushing this narrative that matic adds something to our midfield, when statistically, he doesn't.

*shrugs shoulders* The entire saga is out of our control. C'est la vie, I still trust Jose.

Look I don't really want Matic but what can you do? I guess getting hysterical and whining like an 8 year old is one option!

Maybe the board will read RedCafe and see the discontent and think again about signing him.
 
Both Carrick and Alonso won the Champions League in a 4-3-3. I don't think you have to cover the fullbacks either. I think you're too much out of position if you're doing that.

Alonso played in a 2 with Modric and Carrick was in a 2 with Hargraves in those CL wins.
 
Key passes per 90 metric

Fellaini 1.00

Matic 0.67
You just love statistics.

He hasn't played a minute for United , he hasn't even been signed, yet you know he won't add anything to our midfield.

Statistically.
 
Feck statistics, I've been following Matic from before Benfica, I don't need stats to know that Fellaini is not even close to Nemanja regarding anything but elbowing, that is where Fella excels I guess.

Feck statistics is not an argument. Matic even loses aerial duels to herrera, a player 12cm and 10KG lighter.
 
When did the internet decide Nemanja Matic is rubbish? I can remember a time when the CAF loved Matic. In fact it was only two years ago that, on this very message board, people would declare Matic one of the best holding players in the game. When did he lose his rep? He's just won the title with Chelsea for the second time in three years, and for most of the season he was keeping Cesc out of the first XI. So when did it become a thing to say we should aim higher than Matic?

I do not know if there is truth in the rumours or not. However, if we do sign Matic I won't be complaining. He knows our league inside out, he's shown he can win in our league, and he is undoubtedly a very good holding player. I genuinely don't see what there is to dislike about this move. Is it just the fee?
My thoughts exactly. I will be more than happy with the players Mourinho signs this summer, the guy has a plan and players like Matic and Lindelof are the kind of players that will give solid performances. We get criticized for the galactico approach and then criticized for the under the radar approach. Our big signing this summer was meant to be Griezmann but due to circumstances and him being a decent guy the deal has been put on hold until a more suitable time. We need an upgrade on Carrick/Smalling/jones and we seem to be doing that. Someone on the wings would be nice and a goalscorer to come in soon and if we keep De Gea we will be set. Everyone needs to fecking relax and stop creaming yourselves over Fabinho who could easily be a nothing player in this league. Matic has played a part in two league championships in the last three, is at an optimal age to make an impact and would fit in nicely here. Also I'm pretty sure there were a lot of disgruntled fecks when we signed Carrick/Valencia/Evra. I've done enough moaning over the last four years and now we have one of the best managers in the world and got rid of the specter of Giggs trying to sleepwalk in to the job so I'm just going to fecking enjoy it this season knowing Mourinho is setting us in the right direction.
 
I fecking hate this. We're always the ones getting buttfecked during transfer windows. You have Fabinho, a 23 old who's already a very good player practically begging to join United, yet we go for this 30 years old useless player that even Chelsea doesn't want for 40 million.

It's absolutely mind-boggling how shit we are at this.
 
You just love statistics.

He hasn't played a minute for United , he hasn't even been signed, yet you know he won't add anything to our midfield.

Statistically.

i'm saying he adds nothing over what we have. If carrick is retiring, then he's a 2016/2017 carrick like-for-like replacement, not an improvement over carrick.
 
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