A very underwhelming signing and a risk looking at his form over the last couple of years, especially not for 40m. Jose might or might not get the best out of him. While we'd get someone who's out of favour, we hand them the money to buy the player they badly want
Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed
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I'm the same. I don't always blindly trust managers, but when it's a player they've managed and won with before, you have to go with it.
This signing is very meh. A couple years too late.
I dont trust Jose on everything. He got transfers wrong badly in the past and sometimes you wonder what he's up to. Let's wait and see but if Matic is the midfielder we bring in this summer, I will be disappointed
But how do we know what the situation is behind the scenes? Matic was an ever present for them, so it can't be for footballing reasons. Maybe just the lure of working with Jose was too much to turn down? Just because Chelsea are selling Matic, doesn't mean they want him to go.
But there is no guarantee his replacement will actually turn out better and our midfield and system is different to Chelsea's.
Herrera can pass back and forth and break up play all he likes but he never gives us a real foundation to turn those draws in to wins yet Kante has been an integral part in two league winning teams in two seasons. Time for Herrera to push on and captain this club and someone like Matic will shoulder the burden and allow him to do that. Best performance from any United player in the last few seasons was Herrera against Chelsea and I think he can personify the club on the pitch. Stats are wonderful but hands down Kante has been the more influential player between the two.The salt is strong with this one
We should just beg David Gill to come back. This transfer window is becoming a nightmare right under our noses. I am not sure if Woodward is mentally balanced or Jose is high on shrooms.
Let's take a step back.
•We have the cash
•We have a top manager that can attract world class players
•We are in the UCL...so there's really no excuse for any top player to refuse Man Utd.
So why then are we still stalking mediocre players? We have the same resources as Madrid/Barca/Bayern and yet the best we can attract is Matic!
It's a shame really.
van Gaal's decisions were bizarre from the start to say the least. So I'm not sure as to why you're making that comparison seeing as Jose haven't did anything to yet to warrant any doubts.
If all of this is true, i'm actually hoping jose wants him as nothing more than a bench player just for squad depth.
Carrick completes more passes
Herrera is a better key passer
Herrera wins more tackles
Fellaini and herrera win more aerial duels
herrera is a better interceptor.
A bench filler is fine, a starter is not fine.
Carrick completes more passes
Herrera is a better key passer
Herrera wins more tackles
Fellaini and herrera win more aerial duels
herrera is a better interceptor.
A bench filler is fine, a starter is not fine.
No doubts about it that he would so really, yes.
Wait,what? Are you saying Woodward decides our transfer targets??
Apologies for bringing some positivity in this thread but we've missed someone who can lace the ball since Scholes retired.
Sign him up already
Sign him up already
If I'm wrong (I'm not) I'll be very happy to be mocked!! Alas, I am pretty sure I'm right....
Kind of like saying Josh King would be an improvement on Welbeck. While it's true, it's not much of an upgrade. So nah he wouldn't significantly improve either of those sides.
So they were 4-3-3s then? I think Xavi was normally a little closer to Busquets too. Do you think Yaya Toure had to cover a lot for Man City last season? To me, DMs being isolated is just a team playing poorly or the manager setting them up wrong. It's not something I would ever associate with Busquets/Barca.
Except Mourinho knows the league better than LVG.
About 70% of the Caf (myself included) thought that Schneiderlin was a really good signing.
Lets hope Jose & his staff know Matic better than Conte and us fans.
No, not really, they were closer to 4-2-3-1. Yaya was usually pasrtnered with Fernandinho so no,. When you play 4-3-3 the DM is always supposed to be a good bit deeper than the other 2 and thus isolated, it's why his anticipation and ground coverage needs to be spot on.
Some insight into Matic from a Chelsea fan who replied to me on reddit
The problem is, when we qualified for the CL we all expected better than this.
Matic, Persic and to some extent Morata, hardly an exciting trio. Saying all that, the stellar names we had bought, up until last year were all shite.
Matic, Persic and to some extent Morata, hardly an exciting trio. Saying all that, the stellar names we had bought, up until last year were all shite.
All players we could have bought without CL football. We are the only club with serious interest/bidding on them.
How about keep him, seeing as they just won the league with him in it. They are not compelled to sell. Costa has been a handful since Conte arrived and is always pining over Atletico. Matic just does his job yet they still want to offload him to United. Its weird
How did you arrive at this question from what you read? Stay off alcohol, I beg of you!
The situation is not exactly clear in fabinho and matic, It may be the case of fabinho made to stay another year at monaco because bakayoko is leaving too, and monaco cant afford to sell so many players , Or we are signing both or one of it is a smoke screen. Nothing is clear as of yet because we are also linked with fabinho Via Di marzio.
This is just a shit transfer window in terms of players being available for any position. The big players arent really available for ANY position.
Matic must be devastated, maybe he could print out those stats and polish the two league medals he has won over the last three years. Carrick is a master no doubt but we need someone to do it as many games as possible so Pogba can do his thing and Carrick will be a wonderful back up. Again, Herrera has the high numbers and in my opinion he should be captain of this club for as long as his legs will allow. I love the guy since the first minute of the la Galaxy game but I also want him to make a bigger impact in attack, someone like Matic will benefit him, not hamper him. I like Fellaini, I think he sometimes gets a raw deal and I have seen him play like shit but we can say that about every player in our squad las season. I want him to stay as he can definately do more of a job than Wayne Rooney. In my opinion we are signing a solid player that will not take away from anyone else in the team.
Wait so if Inter cant meet the FFP regulations, then they wont be allowed to compete in the UCL?
What an underwhelming signing. Limited ball winner aged 28 for 40 million. Maybe it'll work out superbly and he'll be the rock infront of our back 4 but it seems like such a pointless and uninspiring signing, in how the player doesn't really have anything of note when it comes to quality on the ball.
Jose just seems to love strong, tough and hard working players. Bah, I just don't connect with his ideas on football.
Jose just seems to love strong, tough and hard working players. Bah, I just don't connect with his ideas on football.
Putting it this way, I am 95% relieved.
We are so much better than signing Matic. He's not an improvement even on a 36 year old Carrick. Some fans are saying signing him would free Pogba - nothing could be further from the truth.
Matic has the speed of a slug. I don't see how Pogba/Herrera would trust him enough to anchor a midfield. Matic had a brilliant first season, he has since declined. He should not even be considered.
It's been weird for everyone in that respect though. I genuinely can't think of a single player linked with a move that I'd be genuinely excited about the prospect of us signing with the exception of Greizzman (who even then I had no idea how he was supposed to fit in) and Sanchez.
Beyond that it just seems there is a real lack of quality around and what there is is ridiculously expensive. It says a lot when the big transfer story of the summer is whether some kid no one had heard about a year ago is going to move for over £100m.
No think they will just end up with a fine and probably will not be able to register a 25 man squad for the CL like PSG and City a few years ago I believe. (of course fining someone when they cant balance the books makes perfect sense anyway but whatever). Unless this is Inters second time failing in which case harsher penalties would probably apply.
You exaggerate but that's another worry. He's slow as feck.
So, reading through this thread, the main "positives" seem to be (1) he's a better version of Fellaini and (2) he played a lot of games for Chelsea last season
I still cannot believe we see seriously linked with 2nd rate players like Perisic and matic. I hope this is either a smokescreen or they are the plan B.
how do his medals improve our midfield? Oh wait, they don't.
We are signing a solid player...that adds nothing. He's squad depth, he's not an improvement.
It's statistically as simple as that, if you want to bring medals and feelings into the discussion, fine. They don't alter stats.
If we´re spending 40M why not N´Zonzi, who is more consistent and a better passer when pressed than Matic?
I don´t think this is a good idea, but I´d rather see him brought in than Perisic, because we only have 2 CMs I trust in Pogba and Herrera and we probably need 4 with all the 4-3-3 Mourinho likes to play and us being back in the CL. Or at least 3 and then play with a 10 more. Whereas I think Martial will be a better LW than Perisic sooner rather than later.
I don´t think this is a good idea, but I´d rather see him brought in than Perisic, because we only have 2 CMs I trust in Pogba and Herrera and we probably need 4 with all the 4-3-3 Mourinho likes to play and us being back in the CL. Or at least 3 and then play with a 10 more. Whereas I think Martial will be a better LW than Perisic sooner rather than later.
he's not. Fellaini is better in the air, he tackles better and they intercept at the same level. Matic completes a pass more often than fellaini and probably makes fewer mistakes overall. But he's not a better version.
Woodward is far better compared to Gill
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