We have had a good defensive record for three seasons now.
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We have had a good defensive record for three seasons now.
Erm. Where were you last season? We didnt finish higher because we didnt score enough. We didnt leak goals at all. We had the 2nd best defense in the league. Scoring/finishing is a bigger problem for us.
Of the same opinion. Matic would be an improvement regardless and a pretty good anchor. Are there other options? For sure - but I'd be happy Enough if we did get just Matic for midfield
He was so good in his 30 performances last season that a serie a and PL winning manager has left his contract to run out to one year left and on top of that he is willing to sell him to a rival... hmmm, I'll stick to my view of him having been meh last season. To me that means he has had one very good season, one rubbish and one where he has plodded around doing a job. Sometimes.
It's 2 I think.
That's not a logic, because they also sold us Mata.
What do you mean by let him run his contract down? Why would that make sense?
He has two years left on his contract.
He has been good but not exactly the earth shattering signing we though we have made? He was surplus to their requirement (Mourinho could not assure him of enough starts in that chelsea squad) and frankly not a world beater. I concede, he's more useful than Matic yes.
He's contracted until 2019.......
But yes, I think he would slot in no bother and complement Pog and Herrera.
Why do you bother rationally replying to him? I've not seen a more insufferable poster and that is saying a lot.
Were you sad when we signed Mata and considered him a Chelsea reject that we shouldn't have gone for him at all because Chelsea is selling him and trying to get better players ?
Listen I 100% agree, but the simple truth is we have looked weak against better opposition. We need strength in both defensive and attacking departments if we want to become the top boys again.
Is it normal for clubs to let the cotracts of pivotal players to run down to two years left? A moot point anyway, since it seems he is not important to then and they are willing to sell. Maybe even to their title rivals. Would they sell us hazard if he was willing you think?
Because I've actually never notice him - I understand now. I understand where he and others come from, just the way he wraps it up in a Piers Morgan type rant rather than valid response.
Agreed.
Mata has been one of our best performers since he came, and one of very few players in our squad that's considered a big games player. Yes he has improved us and I'm happy having him in the squad. Very clever and intelligent with the ball.
Spot on. He's had 1 great season, 1 good and 1 poor for us. But even in the poor I'd put it largely down to be partnered with Fabregas in a 2-man midfield. Solid player, and those three make a good midfield for you.
Relax. We are not going to buy Matic. Use your common sense. Chelsea player. 28 yeas old.
Mata hasn't done shit for us to be fair.
Can't help but have recent examples of the likes of Depay and Darmian stick in my mind. They were raved about in the transfer forum and straight into peoples first choice fantasy XI for the season ahead, once we actually saw them in the PL reality hit that they weren't all that. We're seeing the same with Lindelof when most have barely seen him kick a ball yet.
I actually think Fabinho looks a decent signing from what i've seen and probably the one i'd prefer, but Dier and Matic are good players for a defensive holding role too.
Would you want Chelsea to give Matic a new contract?
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So in order to attack Matic signing we're already moving to attack Mata to prove the point. Interesting really.
Different players, different circumstances. Like comparing apples and oranges. He had one absolutely fantastic year and was at a great age. There was also no indication to me that he lost that talent as he still performed during the time when it was rumored Mourinho didn't trust him. We had every reason to believe their manager was an idiot for selling. Turns out he might not have been that stupid since Mata has never recaptured that one season where he was unplayable.
Now we have Matic, 29, a man who can "do a job in Mourinho's system" (have we had enough of them yet? Men who can do a job for us?), who has had one good season that was three years ago, a player who i feel was decidedly average last season (unlike mata that season at chelsea), this guy definitely classes as a reject yes.
You were the one who made the comparison, i'm just stating why i don't think it's a good one. Mata is a great player on his day who has had nowhere near the consistent impact on games he should be having.
None of the papers are going with this apart from the Daily Star.
Herrera has a year left, maybe an option to extend for another year.
Look, you said Chelsea are willing to let Matic contract runs out and selling him to a rival, considering him one of their rejects that they want to sell us. This sentence can be exactly applied to Mata. Not just because they want to sell a player means this player is crap already.
Oh no, let this not be true.
You are the one who brought Mata into this discussion? Others are simply agreeing with me that he hasn't been that good for us.
I was the one who made the comparison to prove that using terms like " this club's reject and they want to sell him because he's crap " is illogical and annoying. Astonished people aren't even convinced with what Mata has provided here and at once stepped to attack him to prove Matic point.
How many player have been better than him since he came ?
He's been good but not elite and not one of the best players in the league too. Lost his place a few times and not a player that should start long term. In all his time here I only think Spurs and Liverpool away were matches where he showed form of world class, other than that he is neat and tidy, very reliable finisher with a good brain. Not a starter for a team that wants to win the PL/CL.
but a manager that seems nt to be that stupid for selling Mata,shouldn't we trust him if he wants matic back?...any dm is here to do a job,that's why they are dms nt attackers..
I just saw a post about Matic not being sexy.
So we should buy only sexy players whatever the hell that means.
So we should buy only sexy players whatever the hell that means.
Nope you didn't read my post. Different circumstances.
But even disregarding the circumstances...your example kind of proves my point doesn't it... Mata hasn't set the world alight here, they must have know what they sold.
Was a starter for Chelsea when they won CL 2012.
Since you're not already convinced with Mata at all then it can't be helped regarding your opinion of Matic, so fair for you anyway.
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