Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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Joke? take it up with his fanclub in the Fabinho thread if you don't like the description.

You have already wound yourself up about Matic to the point of saying that you would still be unhappy with the signing if he was part of a title winning United side. I rest my case regarding your huff on this subject
So you saw a description of him from what I take is ONE poster in the fabinho thread and decided to do cartwheels whilst sprinke magical little rainbow colored confetti of inspiration into this thread by using it twice within a space of minutes to make your seriously serious point how everyone, everyone thinks Fabinho is this Vieira guy. On steroids. On steroids don't forget.

*clap. clap. clap.*
 
I have to agree Matic wouldn't be my first choice signing but if Jose thinks he will get the best out of Pogba with Matic in the side. I'm all for it!
 
Matic, Dier or Fabinho, all of them will do the job any DMF will do pretty fine. All of them can tackle, intercept and build up the play with good passing. The only thing I favor Dier and Fabinho on Matic for is they're younger and still have room of development.

Complaining about suggestions in DMF is weird for me. It's not like one of them will do different things than the other one in this position.
 
Is that Mourinho or is that Chelsea, they are a well oiled machine when it comes to managerial turn overs. I would think a lot of the players they sign aren't always management driven. As good as Willian was for him last season, you think he was on Mourinho's shopping list when he got the job?
So all of the signings that came off are Mourinho's and all of the bad ones are on Abarmovic? A line has to be drawn and he as he manager has to take responsibility for either not being strong enough to stand up against he big bad booman or not making use of flop signings.
 
Would be underwhelmed if he was our only CM signing this summer. A solid player but he's been disappointing the last 2 seasons imo.
 
Two of his signings last season have not convinced everyone. Mkhitaryan and Zlatan, the latter I disagree with but you'll find opinions firmly split on it here.

And telling people to bore off when you pull out the golden oldie "premier league prewvun yeahhhh" from your holster mr. billy the kid?

To me Mourinho has not done enough yet for United to earn my unconditional trust. As I didn't throw myself in LvG or Moyes' laps just because they became our manager. Mourinho has to show that his last season at Chelsea was an anomaly (and he's had a number of horrific signings who got near to no appearences there during that time, salah, babasomething, cuadrado, and surely a few more).

Coming from the man who's responses to most posts here is that of a arrogant arse, you're as one dimensional as they come. You're a 'ard man - obviously!

Unfortunately players come and go - Fergie bought as much dung as any other manager for instance, managers are human.

Jose still has a bit to go to convince most, most will agree on that - but that's mainly down to a results aspect so far. Not getting enough goals. But how most here bitch and moan about everything is rather sad - just because we aren't in a Football Manager gameworld.

Immediately writing off players who have done well in other teams, end of the world stuff = Jose out! Posters stringing insults together, one post away from a "your mum" joke. Just mental
 
Matic, Dier or Fabinho, all of them will do the job any DMF will do pretty fine. All of them can tackle, intercept and build up the play with good passing. The only thing I favor Dier and Fabinho on Matic for is they're younger and still have room of development.

Complaining about suggestions in DMF is weird for me. It's not like one of them will do different things than the other one in this position.

Fabinho can run, which is an added bonus.
 
Fabinho can run, which is an added bonus.

Herrera's mobility can compensate for Matic, just like what Kante was doing and just like what Herrera himself did with Carrick this season when they played together with Pogba.
 
Coming from the man who's responses to most posts here is that of a arrogant arse, you're as one dimensional as they come. You're a 'ard man - obviously!

Unfortunately players come and go - Fergie bought as much dung as any other manager for instance, managers are human.

Jose still has a bit to go to convince most, most will agree on that - but that's mainly down to a results aspect so far. Not getting enough goals. But how most here bitch and moan about everything is rather sad - just because we aren't in a Football Manager gameworld.

Immediately writing off players who have done well in other teams, end of the world stuff = Jose out! Posters stringing insults together, one post away from a "your mum" joke. Just mental
Has Matic done well this season? I believe he had one truly good season, one season where he and the rest of that chelsea team were crap (mourinho called him out in a bbc post match interview) and this season he has been meh to me but maybe our standards differ.

So I understand the caf reaction.

As for the rest of your post, you seem a little stressed out. Relax. I don't bite.
 
Any signing/team selection the caf hates goes on to do well. That's a rule by now, right?

The coming week is gonna be feisty to say the least..
 
So all of the signings that came off are Mourinho's and all of the bad ones are on Abarmovic? A line has to be drawn and he as he manager has to take responsibility for either not being strong enough to stand up against he big bad booman or not making use of flop signings.

Your point would make sense if Willian wasn't my example!! I't not nothing to do with standing up to anybody. At United managers are free to do as they please with transfers, at many top clubs this isn't the case.

He didn't get a choice with Shevchenko years back.
 
Don't understand why people are losing their shit over an ESPN article. It's a crap source.
 
So you saw a description of him from what I take is ONE poster in the fabinho thread and decided to do cartwheels whilst sprinke magical little rainbow colored confetti of inspiration into this thread by using it twice within a space of minutes to make your seriously serious point how everyone, everyone thinks Fabinho is this Vieira guy. On steroids. On steroids don't forget.

*clap. clap. clap.*

Everyone? Nah most top managers dont seem half as fussed on him as the caf is.

But nice to see you looking enthused again. All that worrying about what we would do with a player after winning the title must be depressing.
 
Fabinho can run, which is an added bonus.

I've never actually seen Matic's lack of mobility or pace. So please show me some examples. At the minute this is like another myth, like when everyone on the transfer forum told me Depay was fast; which was mainly because he was mixed race. Matic is 6'4 so he moves like Fellaini seems to be the new one.
 
Herrera's mobility can compensate for Matic, just like what Kante was doing and just like what Herrera himself did with Carrick this season when they played together with Pogba.

Think Herrera ran himself into the ground too many times for us last season. We need another engine in midfield to take some of the tacking and defensive closing down. Matic is efficient but not a great tackler but Fabinho is both a tackler and is far quicker at in interceptions and closing down.
 
Matic, Dier or Fabinho, all of them will do the job any DMF will do pretty fine. All of them can tackle, intercept and build up the play with good passing. The only thing I favor Dier and Fabinho on Matic for is they're younger and still have room of development.

Complaining about suggestions in DMF is weird for me. It's not like one of them will do different things than the other one in this position.
This. If Dier and Matic were playing in foreign teams they'd no doubt be rated a lot higher on here, despite being regulars in teams that finished comfortably above us in the PL.

I don't see why Chelsea would even sell to us.
 
This. If Dier and Matic were playing in foreign teams they'd no doubt be rated a lot higher on here, despite being regulars in teams that finished comfortably above us in the PL.

I don't see why Chelsea would even sell to us.

If they are willing to sell to us it should ring a few alarm bells.
 
Think Herrera ran himself into the ground too many times for us last season. We need another engine in midfield to take some of the tacking and defensive closing down. Matic is efficient but not a great tackler but Fabinho is both a tackler and is far quicker at in interceptions and closing down.

Like you I prefer Fabinho over Matic, but don't think Matic will be failure here like many are suggesting already. With good system connecting Herrera and Matic they can do pretty fine.

Better to wait because the speculations about our midfield options are still not strong on any target tbh.
 
Like you I prefer Fabinho over Matic, but don't think Matic will be failure here like many are suggesting already. With good system connecting Herrera and Matic they can do pretty fine.

Better to wait because the speculations about our midfield options are still not strong on any target tbh.

Yep Fabinho is a younger more powerful dynamic player with a higher ceiling.

Feels like aside from the AG & Lindelof signings everyone has thrown darts in the dark. Feels like a complete media blackout on the next few signings
 
Herrera's mobility can compensate for Matic, just like what Kante was doing and just like what Herrera himself did with Carrick this season when they played together with Pogba.

We shouldn't be buying players that need another player to compensate for massive weaknesses in their game, it's one thing when you are a small club and you have to work with what you have, but actually paying £40M to create your own problems is silly when there are options out there that can come in and hold their own without Herrera having to sacrifice his game to cover for someone else's flaws.

This. If Dier and Matic were playing in foreign teams they'd no doubt be rated a lot higher on here, despite being regulars in teams that finished comfortably above us in the PL.

I don't see why Chelsea would even sell to us.

Not this cliche again, if Spurs were selling us Kane or Dele most here would be very happy, just like if Chelsea were selling us Hazard or Kante, it has nothing to do with where Matic plays, it's that most don't think he's a good choice based off watching him lumber around last season.
 
Ogden is nowhere near as reliable as he used to be. This stinks of British journalists trying to stay relevant given the complete lack of attention given to them by the club.

We're certainly not signing both Matic and Fabinho so it'll be interesting to see whether the British media or DiMarzio turn out to be correct. I know who I'll trust.
 
We shouldn't be buying players that need another player to compensate massive weaknesses in their game, it's one thing when you are a small club and you have to work with what you have, but actually payiong £40M to create your own problems is silly when there are options out there that can come in and hold their own without Herrera having to sacrifice his game to cover for someone else's flaws.

It's about having a good system that uses the player's strengths and makes their weakness mostly non-apparent.

Anyway I don't think anyone of us is having Matic as his top priority in this position.
 
Has Matic done well this season? I believe he had one truly good season, one season where he and the rest of that chelsea team were crap (mourinho called him out in a bbc post match interview) and this season he has been meh to me but maybe our standards differ.

So I understand the caf reaction.

As for the rest of your post, you seem a little stressed out. Relax. I don't bite.

I believe Matic would slot in well with Pog and Herrera. He has the characteristics and ability, and did show it this season in his 30+ starts in the league. He has shown what he can do in a deeper role - where we have lacked when Carrick can't put in the mileage/isn't playing. He isn't the dross you paint him out to be with your "hard to sell on deadwood when Jose gets the boot" jibe.

Stressed? Not really - scroll up and see most in here have a meltdown because we appear to be going for someone with a bit more experience for Pog and Herrera, instant castigation.

There are other options out there of course, I don't see Matic as a bad option to have - not the pure panic most seem to be having.
 
Wouldn't have any problem with signing him. Effective potential acquisition.
 
If this goes through, its not like we signed him in 2013, where we have Giggs, Cleverely and a knackered Fletcher to line up with him. Matic, Herrera and Pogba as a midfield three is pretty fecking good to be honest. I all aboard the good ship Fabinho, but if we sign Matic I'm certainly not going to be upset about it. He's a really good player in that position.
 
I'm happy with Matic. I don't really think we need a dynamic sittiing third in a midfield 3.
I never got the hype about Fabinho. I never looked at Monaco and craved their defensive structre..

I think if we were to buy Fabinho it would be for a full back position. I'm quite happy with Matic. very tall, doesn't need to learn the epl or Jose. would be a shoe in to our side. Where Fabinho in the holding role would be more risky.
 
It's about having a good system that uses the player's strengths and makes their weakness mostly non-apparent.

Anyway I don't think anyone of us is having Matic as his top priority in this position.

It's about not buying players that have huge weaknesses to begin with, a system shouldn't be about covering up for players that have a glaring problem.
 
Gotta be BS....why would we pay £40m for someone who has 1 year left on his contract?
 
There's nothing wrong with signing him for a reasonable fee. I'd prefer Fabinho or Dier, but he's a proven PL player with title winning experience.

There's no reason why we couldn't get 3 good season out of him. He did play the best football of his career during those 20 months under Mourinho.
 
People need to trust our manager, we haven't come close to winning leagues because we haven't defended well enough.

Jose is sorting this problem out, if he makes us like a brick wall, so be it.
 
It's about not buying players that have huge weaknesses to begin with, a system shouldn't be about covering up for players that have a glaring problem.

Again I don't put Matic as my top priority in this position. I'll take Fabinho over him any day, but at the same time don't think Matic will fail that hard like many believe.

Let's wait and see who we'll actually bring because I don't believe Ogden much.
 
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