Why are people acting like Matic is a League 2 standard player? He had a bad season last year but I'd be very happy if we get him.
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Why are people acting like Matic is a League 2 standard player? He had a bad season last year but I'd be very happy if we get him.
Why are people acting like Matic is a League 2 standard player? He had a bad season last year but I'd be very happy if we get him.
I'm saying I hope JM thinks Blind is much better than Matic, like the guy I quoted suggested. Any team with Blind as the starting DM won't be too successful IMO.
Yeah I know, I also think that Matic is better than Blind. I like Blind but he's a squad player for a team aiming to reach the top.
You do have to question what happened to him last season though? When you have a manager saying what he said, then you have to ask if he has the right mentality for United? Maybe he does but we're probably not going to get two/three players from Chelsea so would Matic be the one?
Under a proper manager there isn't any reason Schneiderlin can't step up this year. Don't think we should spend on Matic, just lump it all into the Pogba fund please Jose.
That's the interesting point for me. If Mourinho has any doubts about him then you can't see this being remotely true.
Yeah, I think Schneiderlin is arguably the player that will improve the most under Mourinho.
That, and if we're going for Matic because we think Chelsea are going for Kante...we should just go for Kante.
Just watching Di Marzio on Sky Sport Italy, he said that Mourinho wants him
No. Schneiderlin is a DM. He played as a DM even before they bought wanyama and even in the last two years he doesn't play as a pure DM when wanyama is there only because wanyama is useless at anything else. When they play with ward prowse or Davis alongside Schneiderlin he was again the DM.
If we play him as the DM and then schneiderlin alongside him, we need a fecking top drawer #10 which Rooney isn't. We'll become far too reliant on our wingers.
One of the biggest drop offs in performance from one season to the next I've seen from a player in a long time.
Looked the perfect Prem CM in 14/15 then one of the worst in 15/16. Mourinho does want to add height and physicality to our side, but I just can't get Matic's performances last season out of my mind. They were down near the relegation zone, and bringing a journeyman like Mikel in to replace Matic had a positive impact.
I doubt there's any truth to it anyway, Mourinho knows we have the funds to compete for almost any player, he doesn't need players that got him the sack last season.
Looked the perfect Prem CM in 14/15 then one of the worst in 15/16. Mourinho does want to add height and physicality to our side, but I just can't get Matic's performances last season out of my mind. They were down near the relegation zone, and bringing a journeyman like Mikel in to replace Matic had a positive impact.
I doubt there's any truth to it anyway, Mourinho knows we have the funds to compete for almost any player, he doesn't need players that got him the sack last season.
Matic had been playing well in Portugal before he even got to Chelsea. He just needs to refind that confidence.
How much would Matic cost? can't imagine Chelsea would take less than what they paid for him, so £21m at a minimum and more likely nearer £30m.
Can't understand the thinking behind buying him when we already have a potentially very good player in that position who just happens to have had a shit year as well (Schneiderlin).
Can't understand the thinking behind buying him when we already have a potentially very good player in that position who just happens to have had a shit year as well (Schneiderlin).
It's not that they're exactly the same. It's just that if you're playing a #6 next to what you describe as a defensive 8 then you better have a David Silva or Ozil pulling the strings, which we don't have (as much as I like Herrera).
I think it's a good option to have especially in more difficult games. I do however agree that it's not offensive enough in a game where we're expected to completely dominate.
The only reason we'd get Matic is if Conte get someone better - someone he knows well. Vidal or Pogba comes to mind. Vidal might be too old, and too BM-bound..
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Don't really see why we need him
Prime Matic was a very good DM however
Prime Matic was a very good DM however
Eh?
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He signed for BM before last season, and was out for most of this season due to injury. I don't follow German football, but in the latter stages of CL, which I do follow, Vidal was their main man.
I guess some in here would turn down Hazard too because he had a bad year....
I'd take him, but I don't see Chelsea selling him. If Chelsea were to sell all their underperforming players this season, they'd be having a full firesale. Hazard, Matic, Cesc. You could even argue that Courtois underperformed.
I'm not looking forward to Chelsea taking us to the cleaners.
Would love him here. He's exactly what we need IMO.
If only we had someJuan...
Is that a given? If this is on the cards it'll be because the player is unhappy and wants the move. Hardly a position of strength for negotiation. I suspect we have other options and Chelsea may end up with a disgruntled player on the bench.
That was the case when we got rinsed for Mata. Chelsea will demand an arm and a leg just because they're selling to a rival.
A different situation for me. We were desperate for a big name player to appease the fans and desperately try to rescue an under par season under Moyes. And you always pay more in January as well where big names are concerned.
Jose must like him if it's true we want him. Give his comments about him last year I suspect he won't want to over pay incase it doesn't work out.
He's coming off a bad year and if he wants to move to a rival you'd assume he's unsettled. Again, not the best negotiating position.
Would take him for sure, most raved about his displays when he went back to Chelsea but now after a pretty average season, not unlike 90% of the United squad, he is not good enough. I think he is perfect for what we need as a DM and would work well alongside Schneiderlin in my opinion as Matic has more legs than the likes of BFS or Carrick. Morgan looked a much better and assured player alongside Wanyama where as with us he got caught out way too much in our rigid slow setup and often tried to force the play with a wayward pass or left the back four exposed by being out of position. I really believe in him being a very good player with us alongside a more mobile and strong partner like Matic. I would also like Kante who will surely be a cheaper option but maybe Jose is not convinced. Anyway this rumour maybe so far off being true but I would still be happy signing him if we can as I think the likes of Pogba, Saul etc although different types of players are not coming to United.
Don't want him, Morgan Schneiderlin has been better then him for the last 2 seasons, (which is saying something as Schneiderlin wasn't even good last season), I thought Matic was one of the problem players for Jose last season, he was utter dog shit no hunger or fight, he looked and played like he had no clue what he was doing and wanted to be anywhere but on the football pitch.
If last season was just a weird blip then he'd be a class signing. Given Mou knows more about why Matic went off form than we do, you'd have to back him if he decided to go for him.
Matic was easily the best DM in the league during the 14/15 season. He'd be that again with us if we signed him I've no doubt.
Did you watch Chelsea at all when they won the title?
If he was a problem for Jose I suspect this is all rubbish - unless he's deliberately buying a player who he doesn't respect or rate, which I doubt.
If he pushes on with this he evidently thinks he can get the best out of him as he did the season before.
Genuinely hoping there's nothing to these links. I'd rather Mourinho work on Schneiderlin, or look elsewhere.
I agree with the suggestion that he might work well alongside Schneiderlin who is a tidy player but not physically dominant. We'd be more solid than with Carrick in there although whether that's creative enough is up for debate.
Would lack creativity for sure but if the four players in front of them are Martial, Zlatan, Gomes and Sane just for example I think we'd be alright going forward.
I would prefer we give Schneiderlin chances to do what Matic did for Chelsea two years ago. Plus didnt Mou specifically call out Matic last season for not playing well on more than one occasion? So not sure where their relationship stands at the moment.
So had Rojo, obviously he isnt shit, just not that good to be a genuine improvement on Schneiderlin, who isnt wow as well. Well if you restrict them as ball winners and find an effective system around that, they are good in those roles. However compared to Motta, Busquets, Martinez and even Fernandinho, Coquelin, Bender, they're really limited on the ball.
Yup, as I recall, he was thrown under the bus multiple times.
Wouldn't be pleased with this signing, I think money would be much better spent elsewhere.
Yeah but was Rojo Primera league (Portugal) player of the year? No.
I agree, Matic really shouldn't be considered as we have plenty of suitable DM's already.
but I beg to differ on your assessment. Matic and Schneiderlin are both very capable of making an switching plays and are just as good(bar bosquets) as everyone on that list. In fact, Matic had plenty of experience as a playmaker before being switched to a destroyer position.