Negotiating with a player today

I never really watched many Chelsea games last season, so I can't really comment. But when I have seen him play, he's never made me really sit up and think "Well, he's a decent player". SAF knows what he's doing, so I'll go with it if it's true.
 
I would have no problem if we signed Rio and Gallas, and didn't sign a striker or midfielder this year. Defence is the #1 priority, and having a solid partnership will be the difference for us next year.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>I never really watched many Chelsea games last season, so I can't really comment. But when I have seen him play, he's never made me really sit up and think "Well, he's a decent player". SAF knows what he's doing, so I'll go with it if it's true.</strong><hr></blockquote>

he's a good player..but i know what you mean... i rather we buy a player with a strong presence... Rio has that IMO.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>

canna's out the question then ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>feck the defence and get Ronaldo.. :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed! :D

---------------------------------------
Stuff the defence, let's score some!
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I would have no problem if we signed Rio and Gallas, and didn't sign a striker or midfielder this year. Defence is the #1 priority, and having a solid partnership will be the difference for us next year.</strong><hr></blockquote>


If unfortunately we could not get Rio, would the signing of Gallas be enough?
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

But :( big name does not usually guarantee success.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not saying it does but our defence was just horrific last season and we need a bit more than only Gallas to fix it IMO..

Just because the one real "big name player" that we've bought has turned out a class A flop, it doesn't mean that this will happen in the future..we need to buy the right players..
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>


If unfortunately we could not get Rio, would the signing of Gallas be enough?</strong><hr></blockquote>

That depends on how Gallas plays. (if we sign him).
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I would have no problem if we signed Rio and Gallas, and didn't sign a striker or midfielder this year. Defence is the #1 priority, and having a solid partnership will be the difference for us next year.</strong><hr></blockquote>

yes..the defence is major worry.. however, we need a foward up front that can help create/score goals against liverpool type opposition... we've failed too many times last year against this style of play...


so ...one CB and Ronaldo please. ;)
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Roy:
<strong>

Not saying it does but our defence was just horrific last season and we need a bit more than only Gallas to fix it IMO..

Just because the one real "big name player" that we've bought has turned out a class A flop, it doesn't mean that this will happen in the future..we need to buy the right players..</strong><hr></blockquote>

But how do we know that signing of Rio will suit us? If we get him and (touch wood) he did not performed as expected?
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Roy:
<strong>

Not saying it does but our defence was just horrific last season and we need a bit more than only Gallas to fix it IMO..

Just because the one real "big name player" that we've bought has turned out a class A flop, it doesn't mean that this will happen in the future..we need to buy the right players..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Gallas, would be great, but the other defensive signings don't necessarily have to be CB's - silvestre looks likely to be replaced, and Rustu Recber is still a possibility.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

But how do we know that signing of Rio will suit us? If we get him and (touch wood) he did not performed as expected?</strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah but that goes for ANY new signing....
Click to expand...
 
just got word that whatever is happening on july 5th is off till monday
 
There's a risk in everything, bla bla, yes Gallas is hardly a huge name, bla bla, but niether were Bruce and Pally or if you wish, Hyypia and Henchoz.

Defence is so more more than having one of the four of five centerbacks in the world there. You can have the best 4 individuals in the world playing bad defence or four good players playing a great defence.

Gallas wouldn't be a bad choice for us, especially as he can perform at any position at the back. But we would need another player the for defence.

Thats assuming any of this Gallas nonsence has any truth to it at all.

Sounds like the 'Desailly is coming' of around January 2002. What a load of cr*p that was.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>
Gallas, would be great, but the other defensive signings don't necessarily have to be CB's - silvestre looks likely to be replaced, and Rustu Recber is still a possibility.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Lay off Silvestre!!! :)
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>

yeah but that goes for ANY new signing....</strong><hr></blockquote>

so would signing a player worth 20 million above justify it?. Frankly I don't really mind SAF buys someone unknown cheaper.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

But how do we know that signing of Rio will suit us? If we get him and (touch wood) he did not performed as expected?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Rio has been tried and tested on every level, be it PL level, CL level or international level and he's impressed wherever he's played..

He's English so won't have communication problems and we already know he gets along well with the United lads who play for England, plus he seems someone who has a comfortable personality so I think that signing him, even for such big a fee, is a rather riskless purchase..

Of course there's no 100% guarantee that he'd be a success but I can't think of anyone better suited to United than him..
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>There's a risk in everything, bla bla, yes Gallas is hardly a huge name, bla bla, but niether were Bruce and Pally or if you wish, Hyypia and Henchoz.

Defence is so more more than having one of the four of five centerbacks in the world there. You can have the best 4 individuals in the world playing bad defence or four good players playing a great defence.

Gallas wouldn't be a bad choice for us, especially as he can perform at any position at the back. But we would need another player the for defence.

Thats assuming any of this Gallas nonsence has any truth to it at all.

Sounds like the 'Desailly is coming' of around January 2002. What a load of cr*p that was.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed but I think that any good defence needs a reallt great CB in it in order to be one..

And Rio would be that IMO
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

so would signing a player worth 20 million above justify it?. Frankly I don't really mind SAF buys someone unknown cheaper.</strong><hr></blockquote>

why does that type of cash bother you??? United have to be in the market for the best... and i reckon there are not many better than Rio...
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>Sounds like the 'Desailly is coming' of around January 2002. What a load of cr*p that was.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The problem is you're assuming there was nothing in the rumour just because Desailly didn't actually come..
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>

you don't know what goes on behind the scenes...</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're right. I don't. Niether does any one else from this forum. But the comments in the forum remind me as such. 'He was seen with United official'...

Yeah, whatever. I've lost my sense of 'building up hope' years ago.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>

why does that type of cash bother you??? United have to be in the market for the best... and i reckon there not many better than Rio...</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, just thinking that sometimes other club just treat United as a water fish!(purposely hiking up the price because of United)
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

You're right. I don't. Niether does any one else from this forum. But the comments in the forum remind me as such. 'He was seen with United official'...

Yeah, whatever. I've lost my sense of 'building up hope' years ago.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I think there were some truth in the rumours... and i've noticed that Fergie talked to Desailly after the chelsea match at OT, like they 'know' each other....
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Roy:
<strong>

The problem is you're assuming there was nothing in the rumour just because Desailly didn't actually come..</strong><hr></blockquote>

There are probably over 100 rumours throughout a year and yes, unless I see otherwise, my first assumption is there's nothing in them.

Why should I believe this anymore than the 'we're in for Buffon' of a couple of weeks ago?
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

There are probably over 100 rumours throughout a year and yes, unless I see otherwise, my first assumption is there's nothing in them.

Why should I believe this anymore than the 'we're in for Buffon' of a couple of weeks ago?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Cause some rumours do seem a bit more likely than others..
Click to expand...
 
BTW None of the newspapers have picked up on the story yet, in fact we're still the only site reporting it - its probably bollocks.
 
Originally posted by Roy:
<strong>

Cause some rumours do seem a bit more likely than others..</strong><hr></blockquote>

what Amir wrote might be true. It just that the rumours keep flying everywhere until you feel numb about it after a certain stage.
Click to expand...
 
Sizing up the defenders: Gallas measures up quite nicely against the likes of Ferdinand and Hyypia, who are often regarded as World Class at their positions.

Minutes Played:
Hyypia : 3330
Rio : 2790
Gallas : 2539

Tackles Won:
Hyypia : 73
Rio : 66
Gallas : 74

Tackles Lost:
Hyypia : 31
Rio : 17
Gallas : 18

Tackles Won %
Hyypia : 70%
Rio : 80%
Gallas : 80%

Interceptions:
Hyypia : 34
Rio : 24
Gallas : 21

Fouls Conceded:
Hyypia : 27
Rio : 24
Gallas : 27
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Sizing up the defenders: Gallas measures up quite nicely against the likes of Ferdinand and Hyypia, who are often regarded as World Class at their positions.

Minutes Played:
Hyypia : 3330
Rio : 2790
Gallas : 2539

Tackles Won:
Hyypia : 73
Rio : 66
Gallas : 74

Tackles Lost:
Hyypia : 31
Rio : 17
Gallas : 18

Tackles Won %
Hyypia : 70%
Rio : 80%
Gallas : 80%

Interceptions:
Hyypia : 34
Rio : 24
Gallas : 21

Fouls Conceded:
Hyypia : 27
Rio : 24
Gallas : 27</strong><hr></blockquote>
What is about Yanks and statistics?
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>Raoul

How many times did he pee during HT?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Likely as many times as you switched allegiances during the World Cup.
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>
I think there were some truth in the rumours... and i've noticed that Fergie talked to Desailly after the chelsea match at OT, like they 'know' each other....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fergie also said he went to told David James "Your form will be back" after he handed us the win at Anfied in 1996/7. Is he close to him too?

Come on...
Click to expand...
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>

Likely as many times as you switched allegiances during the World Cup.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

;)
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.