Wow. As good comeback as it was by OKC, it was helped massively by some poor refereeing and two atrocious plays by CP3 in the last one minute. Can't see Clippers winning the series now. They had to win this one.
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Great numbers. Won't matter a jot if he never makes it past the second round though.
Of course it will. Basketball is a team game. It's hard to beat Durant, Westbrook and the officials.
Here's an honesty test for you, and keep in mind that your integrity is at stake:
Over the course of 48 minutes, both teams were on the receiving end of multiple incorrect calls. Do you or do you not agree with that statement?
Over the course of 48 minutes, both teams were on the receiving end of multiple incorrect calls. Do you or do you not agree with that statement?
Didn't watch the whole game, started at 1030 on the East Coast. Not sure why I need an "honesty test" for my "integrity". I'm a Pistons fan. I have no stake in this series.
Doesn't matter what your team is; mine isn't OKC either (although I have soft spot for them because Steven Adams plays for them and I'm a fan of KD and Russ as players). However, you hold an opinion on this game, so I'm asking you about this game. And maybe don't post about officials in games that you didn't watch.
Of course it matters when you are accusing me of bias. I watched the plays I am talking about, do I need to have watched every one of Crawford's 15 missed shots to say he had a bad game? Jog on.
It'll go 7 games anyway, Clippers to blow out OKC next game 
I didn't accuse you of bias, I just asked you a simple yes or no question and wanted an honest answer; you couldn't give one since you didn't watch the full game. And seeing as you didn't watch the full game, you missed a lot of incorrect calls (as well as no-calls) throughout that went against both teams. The officiating was terrible, but it was terrible for both teams. The officials didn't lose the game, the Clippers did.
Clippers to blow out OKC next game
Probably. Unless Chris Paul puts in a repeat performance of his final minute in the 4th quarter.
This is all nonsense. First off, anyone with two brain cells can see it wasn't a simple question. If you don't want people to think certain things from your phrasing, then stop using words like honesty and integrity.
Every game has hundreds of split second decisions for officials. I am a baseball umpire so I realize just how difficult the job is. But the worst call wasn't even a split second decision. THEY HAD REPLAY AND STILL GOT IT WRONG. The call against Paul for Westbrook's free throws coming seconds before the no call on Jackson on the last possession was another issue. Sane leverage, same game situation and the more egregious infraction is the one that goes u published. It's laughable.
Even if I grant your premise, what you are really saying is that no team can ever feel aggrieved because, like, calls were missed in the first quarter too!
Nonsense.
You could have agreed or disagreed. Simple enough if you're not feeling all defensive.
They got 2 things wrong: the no-call on the foul on Reggie, and the incorrect ruling afterwards that it was Thunder ball. Cancelled each other out in the end.
I'll give you the Jackson no-call; it definitely looked like he hit Paul at the end. But the foul for Westbrook's 3 shots was a foul. He tapped Russ' elbow, enough to put off the shot. My point is that you're only mentioning the incorrect calls that went against Clippers. They weren't the only ones.
Are you saying that calls in the first quarter don't affect anything? You don't think that calling Blake for his fouls in the first quarter would have resulted in him being benched early, and changing the whole dynamic of the whole game? Or do you actually think that only calls at the end matter?
Look the calls in the last minute were disproportionately and severely against the Clippers. The most inexcusable is the replay one, since they had the second look.
If we accept your idea that bad calls early in games (which there are in every single game) negates any ability to comment on the officiating the what are we even doing here?
It'll go 7 games anyway, Clippers to blow out OKC next game
I really hope not
. I just want this series to be over so OKC can play the Spurs 
. Fortunate with a few calls for sure. Should have closed out game 4 a lot better so I'll take getting away with this one.Honestly, the replay one is the one that bothers me the least. Reggie clearly gets fouled, but ref doesn't blow up. Then ball clearly comes off Reggie, but ref says Thunder ball. It evened itself out in one play, why are Clips fans so mad about that? If anything they should be up in arms about the final possession, where Reggie almost certainly fouled Chris and no one noticed.
I'm not saying bad calls early on negate feeling aggrieved by bad calls at the end. Not in general. But the amount in this game was ridiculous. Blake should have been in foul trouble very early on, but there were other glaring issues of inconsistency. On one end, Big Baby jumped straight up under the rim to block an OKC player, and it was blown up as an offensive foul. Fair enough I guess. Except on the very next possession, Ibaka does exactly the same thing on D, and it's 2 free throws for LAC. Calls like that matter a lot in terms of momentum shifts and morale building, and this is just one example of a quite a few bad calls that went against OKC. And if I were to sit with a Clips fan and watch the whole game again, pointing out to them every bad call and non-call, then they would feel a lot less butthurt come 4th quarter collapse. The Clippers were unlucky about one piece of bad officiating against them in the last second (the non-call on Reggie), but honestly, that's about it.
Worst call I have seen in years, period. Both in term of how bad it was and how important it was. Nobody should even try to argue about it.
There is no excuse for getting a call wrong after a very conclusive replay.
I do understand if the refs miss a call live during the game, or even if they make a make-up call live during the game, but to have a chance to look at the replay and still deliberately get it wrong to try and even things out, sorry, that's terrible refereeing.. And it doesn't even things out by the way. It was a missed call that should have evened out the calls they missed against OKC, in this game or in other games. It was just a missed call like any other missed call in the league, which they don't have the right to review.
It will be interesting to hear the outrage about this series-costing error, after all that outrage about Crawford correctly getting the scoring board right before Durant took his second free throw, which he eventually missed in the last few seconds against Memphis.
There is no excuse for getting a call wrong after a very conclusive replay.
I do understand if the refs miss a call live during the game, or even if they make a make-up call live during the game, but to have a chance to look at the replay and still deliberately get it wrong to try and even things out, sorry, that's terrible refereeing.. And it doesn't even things out by the way. It was a missed call that should have evened out the calls they missed against OKC, in this game or in other games. It was just a missed call like any other missed call in the league, which they don't have the right to review.
It will be interesting to hear the outrage about this series-costing error, after all that outrage about Crawford correctly getting the scoring board right before Durant took his second free throw, which he eventually missed in the last few seconds against Memphis.
I didn't catch the game, saw the highlights. The end game officiating looked sketchy. Here's someone's alternate take on the situation:
I don't know now.
I don't know now.
And ignoring the officiating...
1. Russell Westbrook has been the series MVP so far. He has outshined Durant and CP3. I'd like to give credit to the Grizzlies for lighting a fire under his ass.
2. Why was Gortat benched in game 4 against Indiana? He had a monster game yesterday. The Wizards could have humiliated the Pacers more if they converted more points from the offensive boards they got.
3. I don't see this Pacers team getting by the Heat. I don't know which Hibbert will show up, only George and West escape with any credit, Stephenson keeps on persisting with his annoying isos, and the bench might as well just stay in the hotel during games. Teams 3-1 down in a series rarely get to the next round, otherwise I would have tipped the Wizards to take advantage and go through.
4. Lebron is God.
5. I want a Spurs OKC matchup. OKC have the athleticism to disrupt the Spurs passing game. Westbrook will be able to contain Parker, and the Spurs second unit will hurt against Butler and Jackson IMO.
1. Russell Westbrook has been the series MVP so far. He has outshined Durant and CP3. I'd like to give credit to the Grizzlies for lighting a fire under his ass.
2. Why was Gortat benched in game 4 against Indiana? He had a monster game yesterday. The Wizards could have humiliated the Pacers more if they converted more points from the offensive boards they got.
3. I don't see this Pacers team getting by the Heat. I don't know which Hibbert will show up, only George and West escape with any credit, Stephenson keeps on persisting with his annoying isos, and the bench might as well just stay in the hotel during games. Teams 3-1 down in a series rarely get to the next round, otherwise I would have tipped the Wizards to take advantage and go through.
4. Lebron is God.
5. I want a Spurs OKC matchup. OKC have the athleticism to disrupt the Spurs passing game. Westbrook will be able to contain Parker, and the Spurs second unit will hurt against Butler and Jackson IMO.
These are actually embarrassing attempts to try and and throw some doubt into a really clear situation (my comment is not directed at you by the way), to try and absorb some of the heat the refs should get.
The ball quite clearly went off Reggie's right hand (not the left one which Barnes hit). Barnes pushed the hand (and the ball) to the side, there is no way Barnes' hit would have pushed the ball forward. The ball was pushed forward by Reggie's right hand, with which Barnes had no contact at all.
Here you can see it clearly from the angle shown @ 2:37 - 2:45
And here is a snapshot after Barnes hit Reggie's hand, clearly showing the ball hitting Reggie's right hand, and when you watch the video you would clearly see the ball changed its direction afterwards (from going sideways to going forward).
It was clearly a makeup call, but you can't pin this one on the human/they-just-missed-it factor, which is what makes it much worse in my eyes than all the other mistakes they make every game.
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3. It's all about match-ups, and the Pacers match up well with Miami (plus the extra motivation). Hibbert has never been spectacular for Indiana, but he always showed up against the Heat.
4. I'm actually a bit worried that he had to score 49 points just so Miami can scrape past the Nets. He won't produce that every game.
I don't know, I think LeBron is pretty good at taking the scoring load on his back, that was his MO for the Cavs. He could certainly score 49 in 4 of 7 games.
No way. The best I could hope for is a 40+ point game and three other 30+ point games (and three 20+).
Besides when he scores 40+ points in a game, it's unlikely that he's gonna score many points in the next game (fatigue, law of averages, adjustments by the other team, ...), which is why I'll be very surprised if he reaches 35 points tonight (I think he'll score 23-27 points).
Has anyone seen Sterling's interview on CNN? Saw some highlights on the Daily Show...that man just dug the last foot of his own grave.
I don't think he would be likely to do so, but if he had a mind to do it I think he could. Realistic basketball reasons would stop him from trying to do it, in my opinion, not his physical limitations or the defense of Brooklyn.
Wade had a wretched night, LeBron did well to take matters into his own hands. gooDevil is right, such displays were common while he was at Cleveland.
His grave is lined with Benjamins. But still, doesn't he have someone around him versed in public relations/damage control? After the tape leaked he should have jetted to Dubai or some whore island outside the US until things blew over. Reaching out to Magic for purposes other than apologizing was dumb.
His grave is lined with Benjamins. But still, doesn't he have someone around him versed in public relations/damage control? After the tape leaked he should have jetted to Dubai or some whore island outside the US until things blew over. Reaching out to Magic for purposes other than apologizing was dumb.
Russell Westbrook ladies and gentleman.
How the feck do you like that for a comeback Clippers?
How the feck do you like that for a comeback Clippers?
Brooklyn leading by 7 at halftime, 49-42.
Why is that? Because Miami are shooting 6% from 3! 1 for 16! Smh.
Lebron had a terrible half by the way. 2 for 7 shooting and 3 turnovers (out of 5 total for the team).
Why is that? Because Miami are shooting 6% from 3! 1 for 16! Smh.
Lebron had a terrible half by the way. 2 for 7 shooting and 3 turnovers (out of 5 total for the team).
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Screw the officiating, the Clippers were to blame for losing it. 17-3 run for OKC to catch up in the final minutes, that says it all. They should have never even been in the position to let the officiating affect the result.
Miami will lose this one. Joe Johnson just went out of his mind in this game. All jumpers, all contested, all net.
That was so shit from Brooklyn.
Heh.
Wow. What's with the late collapses this year? It reminds me of 2011.
Can't believe Miami won. But I'll fecking take it!
By the way, did the NBA make a new rule for video replay?? Because this is getting ridiculous now. Same situation, same sh*t call, two nights in a row. Either change the rules or apply them correctly!
Can't believe Miami won. But I'll fecking take it!
By the way, did the NBA make a new rule for video replay?? Because this is getting ridiculous now. Same situation, same sh*t call, two nights in a row. Either change the rules or apply them correctly!
I honestly thought the game was over. Joe Johnson looked like he couldn't miss even if he took a (contested) full court shot, and Brooklyn were ahead by 8 points, with the ball, with 3 minutes to go...
4-1 Heat, as predicted.
Not happening so far tonight for the Wiz.
So it's going to be the Pacers and Heat, after much drama, after all.
Neither team have looked their best, but it should be an exciting series. Thankfully Indiana match up well with Miami.
Neither team have looked their best, but it should be an exciting series. Thankfully Indiana match up well with Miami.
Wiz fans show class at the end-gave the team a standing ovation for the last minute of the game. No complaints about this season. Very respectable showing. Looking forward to next year.
Great performance from durant, order has been restored
Interesting we had 0 game 7's after 5 of the 8 series in the first round did.