NBA 2024-2025 ; Lakers Land Luka

The NBA won't move a team. I'm pretty sure that it has already been reported that they are only looking at expansion teams because it brings more money.
 
The NBA won't move a team. I'm pretty sure that it has already been reported that they are only looking at expansion teams because it brings more money.

And if they’re moving a team, surely it’ll be one from the smaller markets. Portland, Charlotte, Sacramento and a few others should pack their bags long before Dallas I believe.
 
If I was a Dallas fan, I think that I would give up on basketball, that trade is terrible for a generational talent. I like AD a lot but he is injury prone and way older, there is no way they couldn't get a boatload of picks and young talent in a multi team deal involving the likes of Buttler and Randle.
I have a cousin from Dallas who basically is the main person I talk basketball with off of here. He took a gummy just before he heard about Luka trade and couldn’t process what was happening
 
Last time I was this shocked was when b-b-b-b-ben Wallace signed for the bulls. Admittedly I didn't pay much attention since. Giannis, Curry and Luka changed that (a bit).


In the old school of thinking this is just the NBA putting it's biggest names into it's biggest markets.
 
Last time I was this shocked was when b-b-b-b-ben Wallace signed for the bulls. Admittedly I didn't pay much attention since. Giannis, Curry and Luka changed that (a bit).


In the old school of thinking this is just the NBA putting it's biggest names into it's biggest markets.
NBA love doing Lakers a favour.
 
Mavs believe that Luka has already hit his peak and will be held back more and more by his physique (or lack of) as he ages. They cashed in at his peak. Or so they think.
I can get behind this thought. Generally speaking. I wouldn’t have felt good paying Doncic all that money. He doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who gives everything to stay on the court and I have concerns about his character in general. So I get trading him.
But why in the world would you not try and create a bidding war around him? The Thunder basically created a blueprint for the league that shows how it’s done. And what do the Mavs do? They end up with an older guy who’s just as unreliable and a nearly worthless pick. It’s stunning, really.
Only way this makes sense is if we find out tomorrow that Doncic murdered a stripper or some shit like this.
 
I have a cousin from Dallas who basically is the main person I talk basketball with off of here. He took a gummy just before he heard about Luka trade and couldn’t process what was happening

It's the craziest deal I have ever seen. Trading Doncic is suspect on its own but the Lakers only giving up AD and a 2029 first is just scandalous. Honestly if I was a team owner I would never grant anything to Adelson, the fact that the Mavs didn't talk to anyone else than the Lakers is unacceptable especially when you remember all the talks around Lillard and Miami.
 
Yeah, the timing is what throws everyone off. They could have gotten more from the Lakers too. Seems they were in a hurry to get him out for some reason!
I’d love to know if it really was just incompetence or if there is another reason. He’s easily one of the ten best trade assets in the league. Arguably top five. It is insane.
 
It's the craziest deal I have ever seen. Trading Doncic is suspect on its own but the Lakers only giving up AD and a 2029 first is just scandalous. Honestly if I was a team owner I would never grant anything to Adelson, the fact that the Mavs didn't talk to anyone else than the Lakers is unacceptable especially when you remember all the talks around Lillard and Miami.
This is the biggest WTF? in all of it. You don’t wanna pay a max contract to a top 5 player? Fine, I guess. You have concerns over his health and/or attitude? Okay, I guess. But it is negligence to not sound the market. Something just feels off about the whole thing. And why is Utah involved? :lol:
 
Only way the Mavs win this trade is if they get a ring this year and/or next year, I suppose, but even then… They’d have the same chance with Luka and wouldn’t have given him up for his prime years.
Mavs win if Luka breaks down from lack of fitness and is never the same player again.
 
Mavs win if Luka breaks down from lack of fitness and is never the same player again.

Mavs lose in every scenario that doesn't lead to several NBA titles before 2029. If he breaks down they still lose because the obvious alternative was to get a bidding war and gain more than AD and a first round pick.
 
The only equivalent to this is the Wolves not drafting Curry because they were told that he wouldn't play for them, as if they couldn't draft and trade him.
 
No they don't because they still could have got a load more for him

You would think so, but then why not take it?

I don’t have any advanced stats on me, but being a top offensive and defensive player at the same time is pretty rare in AD.
 
I think it's a question of the ceiling the this roster with Luka versus with AD. You'll lose points with Luka's offense gone but you'll gain them through better defense in AD.

It'll also be interesting what impact it'll have on Klay since his game now is as a catch and shoot player, which will be not difficult without Luka's drive-and-kick plays. Kyrie isn't as good a passer as Luka is so he might not get the same looks.



Less than what they had before surely.
I don’t really buy Kyrie and AD as a contender. Lakers were not a contender anymore with LeBron and AD, and the rest of their roster was probably just as good as Mavs’ current roster. Mavs without Luka is barely a .500 team, Davis makes them better but not to an extent where they could win the ring.
 
You would think so, but then why not take it?

I don’t have any advanced stats on me, but being a top offensive and defensive player at the same time is pretty rare in AD.

They didn't talk to other teams, the story is that they called the Lakers and made up a deal without telling anyone else that Doncic was available.
 
They didn't talk to other teams, the story is that they called the Lakers and made up a deal without telling anyone else that Doncic was available.
It's the somethjng equivalent to liverpool selling salah to someone without even sounding out offers from Saudi
 
Like I said on previous page, I’m not sure they get a proper great offer from anyone. A lot of the teams have their picks committed in other trades already, the best I could see is getting a bucket of picks from Spurs but you don’t really want Spurs picks when they have Luka and Wemby for the next decade, so you are basically banking on Hawks 2025 and 2027 picks being good.

They still got AD, if they want picks they will shift him in the Summer to one of the contenders. I’m sure there are teams that would happily part with 3+ picks to get him. He’s a fantastic player.

Trading Luka was always going to feel deflating though. He’s the type of player you feel obliged to build around for 15 years. There must have been something that happened behind the scenes to drive this. Wembenyama is possibly the only player in the league that felt more untouchable.
 
Like I said on previous page, I’m not sure they get a proper great offer from anyone. A lot of the teams have their picks committed in other trades already, the best I could see is getting a bucket of picks from Spurs but you don’t really want Spurs picks when they have Luka and Wemby for the next decade, so you are basically banking on Hawks 2025 and 2027 picks being good.

They still got AD, if they want picks they will shift him in the Summer to one of the contenders. I’m sure there are teams that would happily part with 3+ picks to get him. He’s a fantastic player.

Trading Luka was always going to feel deflating though. He’s the type of player you feel obliged to build around for 15 years. There must have been something that happened behind the scenes to drive this.
Bruh
 
Like I said on previous page, I’m not sure they get a proper great offer from anyone. A lot of the teams have their picks committed in other trades already, the best I could see is getting a bucket of picks from Spurs but you don’t really want Spurs picks when they have Luka and Wemby for the next decade, so you are basically banking on Hawks 2025 and 2027 picks being good.

They still got AD, if they want picks they will shift him in the Summer to one of the contenders. I’m sure there are teams that would happily part with 3+ picks to get him. He’s a fantastic player.

Trading Luka was always going to feel deflating though. He’s the type of player you feel obliged to build around for 15 years. There must have been something that happened behind the scenes to drive this.
Teams will find a way to make things happen if it lands them Luka.

Not shopping Luka around and accepting this terrible offer from the Lakers is dodgy as feck. AD does nothing to help Dallas short term and the FRP they got isn’t enough.

They’ve basically killed the value for every trade in the next few years because this trade has set the value for what a MVP level player goes for. Teams are going to kick up a fuss over this trade.
 
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It's not real

I'm really trying to give him the benefit of doubts but I don't have a single deal in mind. I do have a bunch of silly rumors where the Lakers are supposed to give up a 3rd round pick in 2054 for a 6th man of the year contender.
 
Like I said on previous page, I’m not sure they get a proper great offer from anyone. A lot of the teams have their picks committed in other trades already, the best I could see is getting a bucket of picks from Spurs but you don’t really want Spurs picks when they have Luka and Wemby for the next decade, so you are basically banking on Hawks 2025 and 2027 picks being good.

They still got AD, if they want picks they will shift him in the Summer to one of the contenders. I’m sure there are teams that would happily part with 3+ picks to get him. He’s a fantastic player.

Trading Luka was always going to feel deflating though. He’s the type of player you feel obliged to build around for 15 years. There must have been something that happened behind the scenes to drive this. Wembenyama is possibly the only player in the league that felt more untouchable.

I'm pretty sure that Miami would have offered Butler and multiple picks. And Butler could have been flipped for more.
 
Like I said on previous page, I’m not sure they get a proper great offer from anyone. A lot of the teams have their picks committed in other trades already, the best I could see is getting a bucket of picks from Spurs but you don’t really want Spurs picks when they have Luka and Wemby for the next decade, so you are basically banking on Hawks 2025 and 2027 picks being good.

They still got AD, if they want picks they will shift him in the Summer to one of the contenders. I’m sure there are teams that would happily part with 3+ picks to get him. He’s a fantastic player.

Trading Luka was always going to feel deflating though. He’s the type of player you feel obliged to build around for 15 years. There must have been something that happened behind the scenes to drive this. Wembenyama is possibly the only player in the league that felt more untouchable.
OKC has more picks than they know what to do with and would have given them decent pieces alongside which dallas could flip for more picks, there is no deal out there for AD that would have bettered the one Dallas could have gotten with a proper bidding war for Luka
 
I'm pretty sure that Miami would have offered Butler and multiple picks. And Butler could have been flipped for more.
Miami can offer maximum of two picks and Butler’s value is much lower than AD as he is expiring.
 
OKC has more picks than they know what to do with and would have given them decent pieces alongside which dallas could flip for more picks, there is no deal out there for AD that would have bettered the one Dallas could have gotten with a proper bidding war for Luka
When you look at it closely, their picks are likely to be late first mostly. Their own picks are not valuable at all as they are a very young team that will be awesome for years to come, I don’t see Denver’s picks as particularly enticing, Rockets are also good now so you are looking at a bunch of picks in 20-30 range barring some disasters.

I would want Suns picks, Rockets I think have them all… they could have put together a good offer.
 
Regardless of what team has what, not putting Luka on open bid table and you calling Lakers to give them generational player for next X years for basically nothing without Luka even asking for a trade is insane, ONE FRP for Luka fecking Doncic, that should be investigated, regardless of teams being in question. It makes no sense vs current market.
 
Dallas doesn't own their first-round picks in 2027 and 2029. The Thunder own swap rights in 2028 and the Spurs in 2030 (looking pretty nice for those teams now).. The more you dig, the more idiotic it looks.
 
When you look at it closely, their picks are likely to be late first mostly. Their own picks are not valuable at all as they are a very young team that will be awesome for years to come, I don’t see Denver’s picks as particularly enticing, Rockets are also good now so you are looking at a bunch of picks in 20-30 range barring some disasters.

I would want Suns picks, Rockets I think have them all… they could have put together a good offer.
Unless Luka really falls off, that lakers pick isn't going to be high either, and AD could just get injured killing any lot of picks talk. and deal you have mentioned would still be a better deal than the one they got from Lakers, not really surprising considering this is the same guy who is known in sneaker world as the genius who absolutely shit the bed with curry deal for nike.
 
Miami can offer maximum of two picks and Butler’s value is much lower than AD as he is expiring.

They can offer two picks and young players that are actually good in Jovic and Jaquez. And Butler expiring is a good thing, you can trade him and Kyrie before the TDL and start the 25-26 tank mission. I really don't think that they will go anywhere beyond this season, it's not even a given that Irving doesn't become a free agent this summer now that Doncic is gone.
 
Like i said regardless, not creating bid war for Luka is red alert and fishy as mf, pick Lakers offer if you want after but at least see other offers, they body bagged Luka and shipped him in middle of the night, they knew what reaction would be if info somehow got out.