The inability to grab a rebound in the last few minutes will haunt Memphis.
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You do get ejected for having 2 flagrant fouls.
Officially no, but unofficially the refs calls it differently depending on the player.
I am asking if you ever see them throwing anyone out because they thought that there were two fragrants in the same play
My favorite typo of the playoffs.
"Fragrant 2 on Number 16. Citrus and Sandalwood."
I can't remember a game officiated this terribly in the playoffs. Wow 
Memphis, it's still too early for them i think. Make too many dumb mistakes and against the warriors that's gonna cost them the series. Too much Brooks, too little Bane in this game for them, despite JJJ's unconscious shooting and Klay's bad shooting night which kept it close. Refs gave them a chance and they still blew it. Think this ends 4-1 honestly
Memphis, it's still too early for them i think. Make too many dumb mistakes and against the warriors that's gonna cost them the series. Too much Brooks, too little Bane in this game for them, despite JJJ's unconscious shooting and Klay's bad shooting night which kept it close. Refs gave them a chance and they still blew it. Think this ends 4-1 honestly
I think it’s difficult to say anything about this series at this point, I can see a lot of wild games like last night
Yes, they'll just call it as a flagrant 2 which is an instant ejection.
What a bullshit call, but hardly surprising considering how shit officiating is in NBA. Then again, you think this is playoffs, so it might be different and tbf they let basketball being played in some recent games (like the game before this one for example).
Great win for the Warriors, well deserved.
Great win for the Warriors, well deserved.
If you're talking about Draymond's ejection: Pulling someones jersey like that is a stonewall flagrant 2, nevermind what happened before that. Messing with someone's balance mid air like that is fecking dangerous, and Drey would be the first to demand an ejection if someone did that to one of his teammates.
That said: feck the refs.
I only got to watch Bucks - Boston and the officiating was awful yet again.
Considering they decided a while ago this is a no contact sport you may be right. It's a hilarious decision.
Draymond got tossed because he is Draymond Green. No other explanation for that. He gets leeway sometimes because of that but then for things like this the reputation will always be a factor. This is a man who once missed a championship game because of absolutely nothing
I think according to the rules the ejection was fine. The issue is, that I don’t think other players would have had the rulebook thrown at them like Green did.
The league does a lot of bullshit calls but they're pretty consistent with intentional contact above the neck.
He got tossed because he's a dumbass and went for the head.
He's a fecking idiot who got what he deserved.
I was a little surprised when Draymond was thrown out, I expected a flagrant 1 to be called. However, I didn't think the call was outrageous or ridiculous as some in the media have made out. What I thought was far more egregious was the jump ball the refs called after Klay Thompson had missed the FTs. That was just bad refereeing when not one of the three had the balls/eyesight to make the correct call.
Jason Kidd catching bodies 
He's not wrong though. Ayton by far the biggest matchup problem for the Mavs in this series. They need Brunson/someone to have another series like the Jazz, and maybe invest in some VR tech to make Luka think he's playing the Clippers
He's not wrong though. Ayton by far the biggest matchup problem for the Mavs in this series. They need Brunson/someone to have another series like the Jazz, and maybe invest in some VR tech to make Luka think he's playing the Clippers
Apparently Gobert wants either him or Mitchell traded.
Think the Jazz will find it hard to move Mitchell on.
Think the Jazz will find it hard to move Mitchell on.
Jason Kidd catching bodies
He's not wrong though. Ayton by far the biggest matchup problem for the Mavs in this series. They need Brunson/someone to have another series like the Jazz, and maybe invest in some VR tech to make Luka think he's playing the Clippers
It is actually quite interesting in the context of Mavs possibly being one of the teams interested in acquiring him. Of course coach is not decisive in players acquisitions but can’t help feeling it would be awkward now for him to be moved there.
Speaking of that, some rumors today that Gobert wants Jazz to trade either him and Mitchell. Considering age and fit I would expect Jazz to move Gobert though I am still convinced the value they will get will be poor. Maybe two non-lottery first round picks at best.
Timing.
I think the opposite. Teams will not offer much for Gobert while I can see some offering a lot for Mitchell. I would expect Knicks to jump in with a big offer immediately.
Timing.
I think the opposite. Teams will not offer much for Gobert while I can see some offering a lot for Mitchell. I would expect Knicks to jump in with a big offer immediately.
What??? I would kill right now to have Gobert. So would a couple of other teams who have better perimeter defenders than Utah.
Same. Jazz are seemingly desperate to keep Mitchell - despite Gobert currently being both better and more important to their team - but i think once they start exploring the market it will be Mitchell they trade. Think he has a much higher value on the market as more teams need a player like him and his type tends to attract bigger offers than defensive anchors with limited offensive skillsetsTiming.
I think the opposite. Teams will not offer much for Gobert while I can see some offering a lot for Mitchell. I would expect Knicks to jump in with a big offer immediately.
I’m not saying he’s not a very good player but between him being 30 this year, earning an average of more than $41m per year for the next 4 seasons, cumulating in $46.7m annual salary in 2025-26 when he will be 33, and him being very limited on offense and not necessarily always matching up well with other centers, I do not see the value being extremely high. I mean I don’t see anyone trade good young pieces + picks for him while teams will easily offer that for Mitchell who’s just a way more flashy player, on a slightly better contract and much younger.
Doubt it. Most teams already have a score first guard and adding Mitchell isn't going to be as big an upgrade over what most teams would have already.Timing.
I think the opposite. Teams will not offer much for Gobert while I can see some offering a lot for Mitchell. I would expect Knicks to jump in with a big offer immediately.
In the West, probably the only teams he improves would be Spurs (highly questionable), Kings, and Clippers (who'll probably prefer Gobert over Mitchell anyway). East side, probably Knicks, Magic, Pistons and Bulls (if they lose Lavine).
Honestly think Gobert would have a much better reputation if he played in the East where most teams aren't playing small ball unlike the West.
Imagine a healthy Clippers with Gobert. They're going to keep teams below 100 every game.
Between Gobert & Mitchell it’s a no brainer for Utah in terms of who to keep. You can’t build around Gobert in this current nba
Problem is you can't build a contender around a defensive sieve like Mitchell either.
Agreed and frankly I am bored of both these guys trying to project the other one as the problem
I think you can if he's an unholy sun devourer on offence
Gobert, like Mitchell, requires careful roster construction around him. And i think the Jazz are more likely to get a big haul for Mitchell than Gobert. The kind that might allow them to compete. Although in all honesty, they're probably better off just trading both for future assets, bottom out, and rebuild. I don't think retooling around either through a trade would move the needle
Ya that was a huge feckup and illustrates the issue with the rule change to not review out of bounds possession without a coaches challenge.
Aren't you a grizzlies fan???
Yes.
I would drive to Memphis, drive Steven Adams + Dillon Brooks to Salt Lake City, then pick up Gobert and drive him back to Memphis. No stops along the way.
We are talking about a 3 time DPOY here for goodness sakes. I don't want him chasing guards on the perimeter. I want him protecting the rim and catching lobs from Ja.
His contract is a bit hefty, granted.
If you're near contenders with a mediocre center he pushes you over the top. The Warriors for example don't need him to create offense. And he's an upgrade on Wiseman, Looney, whoever else they trot out at center...
If you are the Knicks you probably go for Mitchell. He won't win you a chip but he's more box office.
Warriors could be an interesting fit but this comes down to what I mentioned before, what would they realistically offer for him? Maybe Wiggins, a salary filler and a future first that would probably end up in the 20s. That is not a big offer. Maybe one of their young players but none of them have really done that much since coming into the league (Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody).
I actually suspect Blazers may try to offer their lottery pick this year. That could be a good offer for Jazz as Mitchell is young enough to be paired with a high pick rookie, especially if it’s one of the elite prospects if Blazers have lottery luck. I do expect they will prefer to offer that pick for Grant though as then they will be able to keep Nurkic and build around core of Lillard, Hart, Grant and Nurkic.
Gobert, Kawhi and George on defense would be the best defense in the league.
Can Clippers trade him without losing any of their big two?
Id take Gobert in a heart beat. I wouldn't drive to SF 'cause it's too far. I'd try and get @Charlie Foley to do it. He's closer.
Jazz ain't giving you Gobert for Brooks and Adams though. You'd have to at least throw Clarke in there, or maybe JJJ if not Bane. Would you give up that much for Gobert? Considering how good your defence already is? Just get JJJ to figure out how to stop fouling and you've already got a DPOTY on the team. One that isn't limited on offence either
Brother I live on the east coast these days, I’m surely further than you are
Jazz should trade both. Neither are good enough to get you to a championship.