Is there anything that makes you believe that or is it a gut feeling?
NBA 2021-2022
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Is there anything that makes you believe that or is it a gut feeling?
Gobert is the better player, he's more important to them, is locked in with them longer and trading Mitchell is easier imo
It makes sense, I don't think that I have seen that take before. People seem to be very high on Mitchell.
I am very high on Mitchell too. Honestly in a vacuum I'd take him over Gobert, but the Jazz don't exist in a vacuum. For them, Gobert is the better player, and he's easier to retain, and he's easier to rebuild around(with a big haul from Mitchell), and NBA teams are higher on Mitchell too which makes him the more logical choice for a trade
What do you think about the rumours surrouding Dallas wanting Gobert? If we put the olympics malarkey between Gobert and Doncic aside, I would love to see a Dinwiddie-Doncic backcourt play around Gobert.
I think Doncic would try to kill Gobert after the second training session
Plus the mavs don't have the pieces to make that trade in the first place
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Anybody up to making playoff predictions? Must be in before start of playoffs for person to receive plaudits/told you sos for getting them right/looking a total buffoon.
Predictions as in seeds, or what?
Anyways
East
West
Finals
Bucks vs Grizzlies 4-2
Anyways
East
Heat #1
Bucks #2
Celtics #3
Sixers #4
Raptors #5
Bulls 6#
Cavs #7
Hawks €8
Nets #9
Hornets #10
Hawks over Cavs
Nets over Hornets
Nets over Cavs
Heat vs Nets 3-4
Bucks vs Hawks 4-1
Celtics vs Bulls 4-1
Sixers vs Raptors 4-1
Bucks vs Celtics 4-3
Sixers vs Nets 4-2
Bucks vs Sixers 4-2
Bucks #2
Celtics #3
Sixers #4
Raptors #5
Bulls 6#
Cavs #7
Hawks €8
Nets #9
Hornets #10
Hawks over Cavs
Nets over Hornets
Nets over Cavs
Heat vs Nets 3-4
Bucks vs Hawks 4-1
Celtics vs Bulls 4-1
Sixers vs Raptors 4-1
Bucks vs Celtics 4-3
Sixers vs Nets 4-2
Bucks vs Sixers 4-2
West
Suns #1
Grizzlies #2
Mavs #3
Warriors #4
Nuggets #5
Jazz #6
Wolves #7
Clippers #8
Pelicans #9
Spurs #10
Wolves over Clippers
Pelicans over Spurs
Clippers over Pelicans
Suns vs Clippers 4-0
Grizzlies vs Wolves 4-2
Mavs vs Jazz 4-2
Warriors vs Nuggets 4-3*
Suns vs Warriors 4-1
Grizzlies vs Mavs 4-3
Suns vs Grizzlies 3-4
Grizzlies #2
Mavs #3
Warriors #4
Nuggets #5
Jazz #6
Wolves #7
Clippers #8
Pelicans #9
Spurs #10
Wolves over Clippers
Pelicans over Spurs
Clippers over Pelicans
Suns vs Clippers 4-0
Grizzlies vs Wolves 4-2
Mavs vs Jazz 4-2
Warriors vs Nuggets 4-3*
Suns vs Warriors 4-1
Grizzlies vs Mavs 4-3
Suns vs Grizzlies 3-4
Finals
Bucks vs Grizzlies 4-2
Just like NCAA tournament. Make your brackets from who you think will make the playoffs and then predictions all the way to the final.
If you want to try and predict seeding order before end of season, have at it.
Mmm, honestly the Warriors vs Nuggets series would come down to who's fit. I'm going 4-3 warriors on the assumption of no Murray or MPJ for the nuggets and Steph half fit/possibly missing games, but still coming back and being good enough. Without Steph, i think the nuggets might take it. Playoff Joker is no joke 
The Lakers Russ drama is hilarious 
We're a bottom 3 team in the league and I still wouldn't want to be the Lakers right now with Russ.
We're a bottom 3 team in the league and I still wouldn't want to be the Lakers right now with Russ.
I'm not Russ's biggest fan but I do think he's getting a bit of a bad rap for his performances this year. He's shooting 44.8% from the field which is actually a little better than his career average.. He's shooting 29% from 3 which is also not atypical. His rebounds and assists are down from their recent highs but are still on a par with his career as a whole. He's scoring 4-5 less points per game but he's also taking 3 shots per game less than his career average and almost 5 a game less than hes been taking the last few years. There are less turnovers (3.8) than any year since 2013 and last but not least he's not crying off with injuries every five minutes only missing one game.The Lakers Russ drama is hilarious
We're a bottom 3 team in the league and I still wouldn't want to be the Lakers right now with Russ.
Russ has not been great, the Lakers have not been great but this narrative that the Lakers poor season is all his fault IMLTHO is not a fair one. There is a whole lot of blame to go around.
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Speaking of Russ, where is a good fit for him next season if he's willing to use the player clause to free himself?
Or is he more concerned with that big $47m number in 2022-23 and perhaps sticking it to the Lakers for all the crap he's taken?
Or is he more concerned with that big $47m number in 2022-23 and perhaps sticking it to the Lakers for all the crap he's taken?
No way is he opting out. If the Lakers want rid its going to cost them.
Bye bye Lakers
Lakers have worse record than Blazers since Blazers traded McCollum, Powell and Covington and started tanking. That’s some achievement.
He would be insane to not take the option. There is no way in hell.
Yeah the Lakers have much bigger problems than Russ. That was evident when they lost to the G League team Portland put out despite having both AD and LeBron.
Yeah that's not what I'm doing. I haven't even come close to assigning all the blame to Russ.
I just find the whole situation funny with Lebron requesting Russ and the Lakers obliging and now it's like they're looking at 2 years almost wasted because he's a terrible fit while Lebron will ride off into the sunset soon and not be around to deal with the fall out from the mess.
And it's the fecking Lakers. They don't do half measures. When it's good, they're fecking awesome, but when it's bad, it's a freak show
I reckon they will be able to trade him without issue next year when some team would rather have his expiring than some of the contracts they may perceive as bad.
They gutted their depth to get Westbrook though. That's not his fault, nor is it his fault that they didn't keep Caruso, and he's still better than any of the individuals that they gave up but by doing that deal they're stuck playing several players every night who shouldn't be getting NBA minutes while when they won the title a couple of years back they just had numerous players who were competent around LeBron and Davis. The whole point of the trade seemed to be to take some of the burden off LeBron so that he could be in peak shape come the playoffs but you can't use such a big chunk of your salary cap on that, they've never looked like a natural fit playing together and their depth is so bad that they can't now survive the games without all of the stars playing (they're not that good even when they do all play).
If they could find a team (e.g. the Knicks) with 2 or 3 not great contracts that they could roll up together and trade for Westbrook's expiring then that probably would make the Lakers stronger and allow the other team to get off those contracts earlier although I'm not sure that would be enough and their window is closing as LeBron gets older and his body is becoming more creaky.
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Their idea was basically Russ should be able to drag a bunch of G league players to some win and LeBron can do it too so we don't need a bench.
I don't think they'll have any trouble trading him, but unless there is a GM out there who is willing to do something dumb, they are going to end up with a bunch of players/contracts that they really more than likely don't want.
Another 30 point game last night. His 5th in a row. If he had figured it out a little earlier, he could have been in the running for ROY, but as it is, it's just great to see him begin to find his place. He's so much fun to watch.
If we can add a top 3 pick next to him and maybe trade for a PG, this rebuild is going as good as it possibly can.
If we can add a top 3 pick next to him and maybe trade for a PG, this rebuild is going as good as it possibly can.
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No, I didn't think you were, but you did refer to it as the "Laker's Russ drama." All I was pointing out was that is that it's really just "the Lakers drama" of which Russ is only a part.Yeah that's not what I'm doing. I haven't even come close to assigning all the blame to Russ.
I just find the whole situation funny with Lebron requesting Russ and the Lakers obliging and now it's like they're looking at 2 years almost wasted because he's a terrible fit while Lebron will ride off into the sunset soon and not be around to deal with the fall out from the mess.
And it's the fecking Lakers. They don't do half measures. When it's good, they're fecking awesome, but when it's bad, it's a freak show
Most of this mess is James' fault, but he's untouchable so Russ makes a great fall guy for LeBron fanbois and Laker diehards.
I was laughing specifically at the predicament they've found themselves in with Russ to be fair. That is hilarious on it's own before you even get into the rest of the circus.
Fair enough. I just hope LeBron gets to "reap the benefits" of that predicament instead of somehow managing to get out of a town for a better situation and leaving the Lakers to clean up his mess.
CP3 has been on 4 different teams that set franchise record for single season wins.
08’ Hornets
14’ Clippers
18’ Rockets
22’ Suns
The man is the textbook definition of a floor general. Shame he's still ringless. Hope he gets one this season.
08’ Hornets
14’ Clippers
18’ Rockets
22’ Suns
The man is the textbook definition of a floor general. Shame he's still ringless. Hope he gets one this season.
We both know he won't hang around for that.
Some award picks? Mine:
COTY: Monty (honorable mentions Nurse and Jenkins)
SMOTY: Herro (no debate imo)
ROTY: Mobley (although Cade has moved up the last few months)
DPOTY: Marcus Smart (or Bridges, really want a guard to win it again, but they probably won't)
MVP: Joker (slightly edges out Embiid for me)
COTY: Monty (honorable mentions Nurse and Jenkins)
SMOTY: Herro (no debate imo)
ROTY: Mobley (although Cade has moved up the last few months)
DPOTY: Marcus Smart (or Bridges, really want a guard to win it again, but they probably won't)
MVP: Joker (slightly edges out Embiid for me)
"keep the same energy!!!"
Herro is a fake sixth man. He plays more minutes than most starters
That has never mattered when it came to the sixth man award.
Isn't that the case for all sixth man? The likes of Ginobili, Crawford, Gordon etc were all playing around 30mins/game when they got those awards.
He comes off the bench though. Plays 32.6 MPG on average, and while that's a lot, it's in the same range as Harden (31.4), Gordon (31.0), Lou Williams (32.8) or JR Smith (33.5) who have all won the award in the past.
Just read that the Lakers had more starting line-ups than wins this season. Sad fecking times. And unlikely to get rid of Westbrook with his massive contract as well. Maybe we should just trade AD now he's still worth quite a lot and focus on a proper rebuild, but unlikely to happen.
Rooting for the Grizz to go all the way now, or it wouldn't be the worst if CP3 finally wins one even though I dislike the Suns.
Rooting for the Grizz to go all the way now, or it wouldn't be the worst if CP3 finally wins one even though I dislike the Suns.
Russ has been Russ. The issue is two fold
i) they knew what they were getting and that he cannot play off ball
ii) He is unwilling to adapt.
Since Lebron is the better player he will have the ball in his hands so Russ is standing like a scarecrow pretending to be a spot up shooter which he bricks. When they only had 2 STARs Russ often played well but the tripod does not work. The issue is they traded their depth to get Russ who doesn't enhance their chances of winning and were left to signing vet minimums. Russ also cannot replace Lebron when he is out and they could not compete without Bron. They should trade Lebron.
Iverson did that?!?!?!