NBA 2021-2022

Very curious what happens during the draft given how NCAA tournament has gone so far. Banchero has gone from underwhelming and not committed enough to star of the show while Holmgren, Smith and Ivey all got knocked out with underwhelming performances (Holmgren at least had some moments, Smith flatout disappointed and Ivey struggled against St Peter’s of all teams). There will be a clear gap between the four of them and the rest of the group so everyone will want that lottery luck badly this year.

Portland will trade their pick for Grant (or other slightly above average veteran) regardless of where they land, just hope that top 4 pick may mean they don’t have to trade both that and Pelicans first (which will probably be around 12-14 if they don’t make it past play-in).
 
Is Lebron going to leave in the summer? Or will he waste another year not competing with the Lakers.
 
Donut said:
Is Lebron going to leave in the summer? Or will he waste another year not competing with the Lakers.
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He can’t really just decide to go to a contender as they would have to offer substantial assets to Lakers to get it down (he’s still under contract until 2023) and I’m not sure any of them would be that keen on that given his age and contract status.
 
Sarni said:
He can’t really just decide to go to a contender as they would have to offer substantial assets to Lakers to get it down (he’s still under contract until 2023) and I’m not sure any of them would be that keen on that given his age and contract status.
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LeGM and the Klutch Mafia will work something out.
 
Piratesoup said:
LeGM and the Klutch Mafia will work something out.
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I'm sure there will be multiple middle of the pack teams that would have him gladly but would he really be better off there?

My fear is that he will try to force a move to Cleveland, and they will be pressured into making an offer that will send one of their young talent (Garland, Allen, Mobley.. most likely Garland as he's better fit with AD) and even if they don't, he will want them to trade all of them out for veteran players to win championship. So essentially whatever cool, promising team they've managed to build this year will be eradicated just so LeBron can go to the Finals again.
 
Sarni said:
He can’t really just decide to go to a contender as they would have to offer substantial assets to Lakers to get it down (he’s still under contract until 2023) and I’m not sure any of them would be that keen on that given his age and contract status.
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I mean he is performing on a close to MVP level, though defensively he hasn't been that great. That being said, don't think any of the current contenders would want to give up their assets to have him (Miami maybe?). He might have to go to a smaller team and try to get them into a higher level.
 
Sarni said:
I'm sure there will be multiple middle of the pack teams that would have him gladly but would he really be better off there?

My fear is that he will try to force a move to Cleveland, and they will be pressured into making an offer that will send one of their young talent (Garland, Allen, Mobley.. most likely Garland as he's better fit with AD) and even if they don't, he will want them to trade all of them out for veteran players to win championship. So essentially whatever cool, promising team they've managed to build this year will be eradicated just so LeBron can go to the Finals again.
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If LeBron's allowed to use his GM skills, he's more likely to have the Cavs in the lottery than in the finals.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
I mean he is performing on a close to MVP level, though defensively he hasn't been that great. That being said, don't think any of the current contenders would want to give up their assets to have him (Miami maybe?). He might have to go to a smaller team and try to get them into a higher level.
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Don't think Riley would be interested in LeBron.
 
Is Simmons actually going to play for Brooklyn? Or any other NBA team ever for that matter?
 
charlton66 said:
If LeBron's allowed to use his GM skills, he's more likely to have the Cavs in the lottery than in the finals.
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He crippled them for the next few years but did quite well the last time he was there.
 
Sarni said:
He crippled them for the next few years but did quite well the last time he was there.
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I think that was more to do with players he inherited (Kyrie) and to be fair his own talent rather than anybody he brought in. Also, as you say, they were crippled once he left because he mortgaged the future by trading future draft picks/young players and bringing in vets that were massively overpaid and borderline untradeable once he'd gone. I think I'm starting to see a pattern here.
 
Sarni said:
Is Simmons actually going to play for Brooklyn? Or any other NBA team ever for that matter?
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I hope he drags it out so Brooklyn think they can count on him next year and then not play.

Just because I hate super-teams.
 
Another loss, but no complaints about this one. Dubs played it close right to the wire. Jordan Poole was magnificent. If the Dubs play like this for the rest of the year there's hope yet.
 
charlton66 said:
Another loss, but no complaints about this one. Dubs played it close right to the wire. Jordan Poole was magnificent. If the Dubs play like this for the rest of the year there's hope yet.
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Yep much better performance against what is simply a good team. Poole a massive improvement on Sunday night
 
Jalen Green's been cooking in the last month, well since the turn of the year really, but man he's been super hot since the beginning of March.

This draft class will probably go down as one of the greats.
 
elmo said:
That's more to do with him being that good and the East being that shit. He's getting found out in the West when he realises he can't take games off.
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Don't think he is taking that many nights off tbh, he really has nothing to work with this year. There are a couple of good young pieces there and they need to be able to develop but with AD out and Russ stinking up the joint, it just has been a shit show all around.

That AD trade just wasn't worth it. I still seriously think this Lakers team challenges multiple years over if you let Randle, Ingram, Ball, Hart, Kuzma and Zubac develop and form chemistry around LeBron whilst continuing to find good NBA role players mid-late in drafts (they have really been quite good at this aspect.)
 
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Don't think he is taking that many nights off tbh, he really has nothing to work with this year. There are a couple of good young pieces there and they need to be able to develop but with AD out and Russ stinking up the joint, it just has been a shit show all around.

That AD trade just wasn't worth it. I still seriously think this Lakers team challenges multiple years over if you let Randle, Ingram, Ball, Hart, Kuzma and Zubac develop and form chemistry around LeBron whilst continuing to find good NBA role players mid-late in drafts (they have really been quite good at this aspect.)
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Lakers timeline isn't the same as LeBron's. LeBron needed to win now and he forced the Lakers to do it his way. They got a championship out of it, so don't think they'll care too much about the young players.
 
elmo said:
Lakers timeline isn't the same as LeBron's. LeBron needed to win now and he forced the Lakers to do it his way. They got a championship out of it, so don't think they'll care too much about the young players.
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But that's always been the problem having James on your team. He's 37 years old now so he's in "win now" mode which is fair enough. The trouble is that he's been in "win now" mode since the first time he left Cleveland and damn the rest of the organization, team mates, the future etc... To be fair, he usually gets his team a Championship but in the process he destroys that team for years to come. He then moves on, rinse and repeat. What is laughable is that he somehow always seems to find a scapegoat if things go wrong. Take the credit, spread the blame (but not on him). He's one of the most selfish superstars I've come across in my lifetime.

You've probably gathered, I'm not his biggest fan.
 
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charlton66 said:
But that's always been the problem having James on your team. He's 37 years old now so he's in "win now" mode which is fair enough. The trouble is that he's been in "win now" mode since the first time he left Cleveland and damn the rest of the organization, team mates, the future etc... To be fair, he usually gets his team a Championship but in the process he destroys that team for years to come. He then moves on, rinse and repeat. What is laughable is that he somehow always seems to find a scapegoat if things go wrong. Take the credit, spread the blame (but not on him). He's one of the most selfish superstars I've come across in my lifetime.

You've probably gathered, I'm not his biggest fan.
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That's my view on him too. He's a cancer to any team and I'm glad we were never good enough to enter his eyes as a potential team to join.

And his fake ass humility when he wins is annoying as feck too when his ego is off the charts. It takes someone really special to have so many tattoos based off his own name and nicknames.
 
elmo said:
That's my view on him too. He's a cancer to any team and I'm glad we were never good enough to enter his eyes as a potential team to join.

And his fake ass humility when he wins is annoying as feck too when his ego is off the charts. It takes someone really special to have so many tattoos based off his own name and nicknames.
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It's the drama queen part of his persona that I can't stand (well, apart from the selfish, arrogant ass part - but that's kind of understood). I'll never forget him coming out with the cast on his arm after the Dubs had swept his ass in 2018. Good times! Good times!
 
Gannis hits the clutch 3 to send it to overtime in brooklyn. Then he hits both free throws to win it

He's reaching his final form :lol:
 
Giannis is using his atributes so well, which makes this whole Embiid loby push for MVP kinda funny, having interviews left right center in last few days. If you remove Jokic from MVP picture, in what right mind you should vote for Embiid over Giannis. Only argument you couldnt use vs Embiid is number of wins/standings, due him missing 2nd guy but even then thats partially his fault. Whole voter fatigue is most dumbest shit ever if they hold him winning MVP 2-3 years ago above his head now, thats just mental.
 
The Mavs lose every game against eastern teams that won't make the playoffs, it's a fecking curse
 
Pistons v Thunder was such a random game. Pistons pulled Cade, Stewart and Bey after six minutes and were playing Hayes, Lee, Frank Jackson, Livers Pickett and Key for rest of the game - just random names mostly, the last three I’m barely familiar with. Thunder have everyone out so they played Maledon, Aaron Wiggins, Krejci, Hoard and Roby plus Sarr, Waters and JRE off the bench. Tanking at its finest.
 
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This draft class is going to be special. Aside from Suggs all of the top 6 have shown huge promise already: Cade and Green in the second half of year, Mobley, Barnes and Giddey throughout the entire season. They are also so unique in a way, very hard to have any comparison for Barnes and Giddey for example. Then you also have players picked slightly later like Wagner, Duarte, Sengun and even Mitchell recently who have shown plenty of potential.
 
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Including the playoffs?
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Just the regular season for now. He's being reassessed the day after the regular season, it sounds like they think he'll be fine for the start of the playoffs but teams aren't always trustworthy with these things.
 
Lost to the Grizzlies who're without Ja.

That should give the boys a wake up call. We've been winning the past few games even though the team has been coasting and our defensive intensity has dropped a bit. We need to focus for the playoffs and not think it'll be a cake walk.
 
Big game tonight. Lose this one, not only will the Dubs drop back to 4th but Mavs, Jazz, Nuggets and Wolves will all have the tiebreaker if teams finish with the same record.
 
elmo said:
Lost to the Grizzlies who're without Ja.

That should give the boys a wake up call. We've been winning the past few games even though the team has been coasting and our defensive intensity has dropped a bit. We need to focus for the playoffs and not think it'll be a cake walk.
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Grizzlies without Ja are 2016 warriors buddy. Check the stats
 
WI_Red said:
This could have wide ranging consequences if the arbiter sides with Simmons. Being able to claim mental distress if a trade demand is not granted, and your current being barred from docking pay for refusal to play, could cause huge issues. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...nearly-20-million-withheld-philadelphia-76ers
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Meh, feck the Sixers and Simmons.

Sixers deserved it after Doc threw Simmons under the bus last year for the playoff loss and Simmons for refusing to play just because he wanted out.
 
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