NBA 2018-2019

Yeah they can. Trade for AD and still have the space for a max in the summer I think.

For what it's worth, no chance it happens in my opinion. I don't even think Lakers will get AD. But it is in the realms of possibility.
I must say, I would probably like to see it. KD, James and AD would be by far the best frontcourt in the history of the game. James would average 15 assists for game playing with KD and AD.
 
No. LeBron makes $37.4million next year, AD makes $28.1million. That's $65.5million for two players, there will be no room for another max deal.
Ah I was sure I read different but my bad.
 
Dubs GM has said that he is gonna give to KD what he wants. I think that they might find some workaround solution where they pay a lot of money in salary tax, but they would still be fine considering that they will open [Glaston] a new arena in San Francisco from next year [/Glaston], and they will be desperate to have Durant on the first year there.

They will. Tax will be extreme but their revenue will allow them to cover it, with the new arena and all.

That's gonna be some tax considering he'll be eligible for 200+ million supermax contract and Green/Klay's contract's are up next.
 
salary cap rises to $118m in 2020-21
It doesn’t matter, LeBron will make even more that season and when AD extends he will also make north of $35million.

They can’t sign Durant I’m pretty sure.
 
That's gonna be some tax considering he'll be eligible for 200+ million supermax contract and Green/Klay's contract's are up next.
Dubs have jumped from a midlevel or so team, to the third richest team in NBA (will likely surpass Lakers as second after their move to San Francisco). They can likely handle the crazy tax that is coming, especially considering that he saved them some money in the last couple of years by agreeing to take a lower salary than he could have.

I think it is more important for Dubs to establish themselves as a brand in the level of Knicks/Lakers, rather than saving money. And they need KD to do so.
 
Can't see us letting go of Kuzma, he's the future of the team if he keeps developing like he has been imo. Don't care too much about Ingram, he's a good option to have but not as good as you'd expect from a #2 pick. LeBron is getting on and won't be here forever, if he retires or gets worse in a few years, we'd be stuck with a prime Davis and some utility players to support him if we don't bring anyone in through free agency.

I think LBJ could play PG for a few more years yet. He could play until he's in his late 30's of his rig holds up. You can plan around that transition.
 
It doesn’t matter, LeBron will make even more that season and when AD extends he will also make north of $35million.

They can’t sign Durant I’m pretty sure.

Durant won't sign with the Lakers anyway

but even still, 19/20 salary cap will be 109m, so they'll still have roughly 45m to complete the roster. that's enough for another max, although it would leave little depth.
 
Sounds like we are an outsider for AD.

If we trade our 1st round pick it will end up being #1.

If we keep the pick it will end up being #4-5.

Knicks life :rolleyes:
 
I've no idea what Durant is going to do. The only indication he has given of any kind is that he wants to get paid this time - no discounts. If that is the case only the Dubs can pay him the super max he appears to be looking for which is about 219 million over 5 years. The best anybody else can offer is in the neighborhood of 164 million over four years. KD has also given the Warriors a break in his recent contract negotiations so it would seem odd that now they finally have his Bird rights and he can get his full worth he would choose to jump ship. The thing that the haters keep clinging on to is that since the media keep banging on about his legacy, they hope that will somehow convince him to leave. However, if the Dubs can win this year and again next year it will be the first time since the Celtics back in the sixties that a team has won 4 Championships in a row. Not saying it will happen, but if they can pull it off the Warriors could possibly be considered the greatest team of all time. Legacies tend to do well under those circumstances.

As to AD, I agree with @Sarni
Shut him down for the rest of year and then listen to offers in the off season, that's they only choice here for Pelicans.
 
Durant won't sign with the Lakers anyway

but even still, 19/20 salary cap will be 109m, so they'll still have roughly 45m to complete the roster. that's enough for another max, although it would leave little depth.

Nope. Luol Deng takes $5million of that $45million, Wagner is $2million, Bonga is $1.6million and Mikhalyuk is $1.4million. That brings us to $75million for just five active players including AD and LeBron and you must calculate $900k (minimum deal value) for remaining 9 open spots which is another $8million. Only $28million left which is well below KD’s max. That’s assuming they let all of Ball, Kuzma, Hart and Ingram go in this trade as they make substantially more than minimum.

You must leave space for other players before you offer a max.
 
I dont understand that at all. Some teams keep signing players even though they're already way above the cap. The Warriors for example sign a bunch of players every season. Why is it different for the Lakers, as long as the players they sign are veteran minimums etc?
 
I dont understand that at all. Some teams keep signing players even though they're already way above the cap. The Warriors for example sign a bunch of players every season. Why is it different for the Lakers, as long as the players they sign are veteran minimums etc?

With GSW people are tempted to take vet minimum because GSW = ring, that's why snake joined them for less money, that's why Boogie joined them.
 
I dont understand that at all. Some teams keep signing players even though they're already way above the cap. The Warriors for example sign a bunch of players every season. Why is it different for the Lakers, as long as the players they sign are veteran minimums etc?
Warriors have the Bird rights of all their top four players, so they can go over cap to sign them. However for example, they cannot give to some other player a max cap even if Durant leaves.
 
Nope. Luol Deng takes $5million of that $45million, Wagner is $2million, Bonga is $1.6million and Mikhalyuk is $1.4million. That brings us to $75million for just five active players including AD and LeBron and you must calculate $900k (minimum deal value) for remaining 9 open spots which is another $8million. Only $28million left which is well below KD’s max. That’s assuming they let all of Ball, Kuzma, Hart and Ingram go in this trade as they make substantially more than minimum.

You must leave space for other players before you offer a max.

Fair enough, not Durant (he’s not an option for the lakers anyway IMO, if he does leave the Warriors he will want to go to his ‘own’ team), but maybe enough for someone else, Kemba maybe?

If they have LeBron and AD on the same team, they will have players wanting to join, even if it isn’t a Durant level star.
 
It's true for the most part, but they did get Cousins, Holiday, Randle and Mirotic.

Cousins thing is bad luck. So, I feel for Pelicans regarding that.

Mirotic is a good role-player at best. And Randle is a perfect example of a guy stat-padding but in terms of overall impact of playing basketball, he doesn't do that.

Well as in leaving them in the lurch right near the Trade deadline. Meaning they are probably going to have to take a crappy trade deal. He could of done this last Summer and the Pelicans would of had time to get the best possible deal. Now they have just over a week.

AD probably wanted to see how this season progressed and wanted to give them a chance.

And I don't think they will get back crappy deal. I am expect that should the Lakers trade happen, they will get back Kuzma + Hart + Ingram + Picks. Kuzma is a baller and Ingram while hasn't lived up to his expectations is still really talented.

That deal package is better than anything anyone else can realistically offer. People talk about Boston having assets and stuff and thats true but the only way Boston's package will trump Lakers' is if they include Tatum. If they don't, Lakers' package is the best one Pelicans can get all things considered.
 
Fair enough, not Durant (he’s not an option for the lakers anyway IMO, if he does leave the Warriors he will want to go to his ‘own’ team), but maybe enough for someone else, Kemba maybe?

If they have LeBron and AD on the same team, they will have players wanting to join, even if it isn’t a Durant level star.

If Lakers get AD now, ideal scenario for summer would be getting two 3 & D role-players on one-year deals again and wait for 2020 free-agency when they would have a bigger cap-space.
 
Fair enough, not Durant (he’s not an option for the lakers anyway IMO, if he does leave the Warriors he will want to go to his ‘own’ team), but maybe enough for someone else, Kemba maybe?

If they have LeBron and AD on the same team, they will have players wanting to join, even if it isn’t a Durant level star.

Whichever star they try to go for will demand a max. Nobody will give up huge money to go there but they will have plenty of choice in mid-tier free agents like Middleton who will not receive max offers but could still provide them with quality.
 
If Lakers get AD now, ideal scenario for summer would be getting two 3 & D role-players on one-year deals again and wait for 2020 free-agency when they would have a bigger cap-space.

They wouldn’t though. LeBron will make nearly $40million in 2020-21. AD will have to extend his contract and will also make close to $40million based on max offer. They will still not have anywhere near cap space needed to sign high profile free agents, not to mention the list of 2020 free agents is not even that impressive.
 
Can't see us letting go of Kuzma, he's the future of the team if he keeps developing like he has been imo. Don't care too much about Ingram, he's a good option to have but not as good as you'd expect from a #2 pick. LeBron is getting on and won't be here forever, if he retires or gets worse in a few years, we'd be stuck with a prime Davis and some utility players to support him if we don't bring anyone in through free agency.

The players Lakers' need to keep is actually Lonzo.

Everyone else other than LeBron and Lonzo, they should be open to trade.

Kuzma is really talented but you need to give up something good if you want an MVP calibre player like AD. Ingram's stock is low right now but under right coaching and circumstances he can be a good player. I think Gentry's offensive system would help him a lot compared to Luke's.
 
Cousins thing is bad luck. So, I feel for Pelicans regarding that.

Mirotic is a good role-player at best. And Randle is a perfect example of a guy stat-padding but in terms of overall impact of playing basketball, he doesn't do that.

AD probably wanted to see how this season progressed and wanted to give them a chance.

And I don't think they will get back crappy deal. I am expect that should the Lakers trade happen, they will get back Kuzma + Hart + Ingram + Picks. Kuzma is a baller and Ingram while hasn't lived up to his expectations is still really talented.

That deal package is better than anything anyone else can realistically offer. People talk about Boston having assets and stuff and thats true but the only way Boston's package will trump Lakers' is if they include Tatum. If they don't, Lakers' package is the best one Pelicans can get all things considered.

I would prefer Jaylen Brown over Ingram and Celtics picks (from Memphis and Sacramento) are much better than Lakers picks.

Kuzma is good but really not that amazing. Hart has little value.
 
They wouldn’t though. LeBron will make nearly $40million in 2020-21. AD will have to extend his contract and will also make close to $40million based on max offer. They will still not have anywhere near cap space needed to sign high profile free agents, not to mention the list of 2020 free agents is not even that impressive.

They are increasing the salary cap for 2020 by 10 odd million no?
 
I would prefer Jaylen Brown over Ingram and Celtics picks (from Memphis and Sacramento) are much better than Lakers picks.

Kuzma is good but really not that amazing. Hart has little value.

Seriously?

On what basis is Jaylen Brown better than either Ingram or Kuzma, nevermind both?
 
They wouldn’t though. LeBron will make nearly $40million in 2020-21. AD will have to extend his contract and will also make close to $40million based on max offer. They will still not have anywhere near cap space needed to sign high profile free agents, not to mention the list of 2020 free agents is not even that impressive.

Actually, you are right, they still wouldn't be able to sign any max-level guy.
 
Knicks need to sit this one out. Knicks currently only have 3 assets worth much KP, Knox and the upcoming high pick. And we would need to trade 2 maybe 3 plus even more future picks to even have a shot at getting Davis. With Davis we would just be the Pelicans in New York.
 
Steph's got to be on Shaqtin for that slip on the towel while Klay was dunking. For such a finely tuned athlete, he can be an awful klutz sometimes
 
What a comeback for the Nuggets, but we can't afford to show up for only one quarter a match.
 
Seriously?

On what basis is Jaylen Brown better than either Ingram or Kuzma, nevermind both?

He’s been a clutch performer in the playoffs, is a very good defender and has been good on offense in patches (despite rough start this year). I think his value is definitely higher than Ingram’s who has been largely underwhelming and I would also have him ahead of Kuz because of his defense.

I think Kuzma is a bit overrated to be honest.
 
Nope. Luol Deng takes $5million of that $45million, Wagner is $2million, Bonga is $1.6million and Mikhalyuk is $1.4million. That brings us to $75million for just five active players including AD and LeBron and you must calculate $900k (minimum deal value) for remaining 9 open spots which is another $8million. Only $28million left which is well below KD’s max. That’s assuming they let all of Ball, Kuzma, Hart and Ingram go in this trade as they make substantially more than minimum.

You must leave space for other players before you offer a max.

:lol: at L(u)OL Deng still haunting them
 
He’s been a clutch performer in the playoffs, is a very good defender and has been good on offense in patches (despite rough start this year). I think his value is definitely higher than Ingram’s who has been largely underwhelming and I would also have him ahead of Kuz because of his defense.

I think Kuzma is a bit overrated to be honest.

I agree regarding Kuzma. He looks flashy of course but doesn't offer anything bar potential scoring.
 
Can the Knicks trade, let's say Porzingis, Hardaway and the #1 pick for Davis and then sign Durant? Or wouldn't they be able to extend Davis if he's looking for a max?

The Pelicans would most likely get Zion, Porzingis, and still have their own pick in the top 10. The Knicks could start with Davis, Durant and a few useful players and finally turn things around.
 
Can the Knicks trade, let's say Porzingis, Hardaway and the #1 pick for Davis and then sign Durant? Or wouldn't they be able to extend Davis if he's looking for a max?

The Pelicans would most likely get Zion, Porzingis, and still have their own pick in the top 10. The Knicks could start with Davis, Durant and a few useful players and finally turn things around.

Knicks will at best have a 14% chance at no. 1 pick so it's a far fetched one, Hardaway is pretty much just a bad contract for two more years and Porzingis is coming off a very bad injury. No. 1 pick and fully fit Porzingis is a great offer though.

If Knicks find a way to get rid of Lee, trade Hardaway and Ntilikina, and get Davis back, they should have room for a max contract for KD. You need to remember though that you would virtually only have AD, KD and a bunch of young players and minimum salary players.

The league will be so fun if KD leaves Warriors and AD goes anywhere but Lakers.
 
The league will be so fun if KD leaves Warriors and AD goes anywhere but Lakers.
It'd be fun if he goes to the Lakers too imo - you'd have 4 legitimate contenders in each conference, potentially even more depending on where Durant might go.

Raptors
Bucks
Celtics
76ers

Warriors
Rockets
Lakers
Nuggets / OKC
 
It'd be fun if he goes to the Lakers too imo - you'd have 4 legitimate contenders in each conference, potentially even more depending on where Durant might go.

Raptors
Bucks
Celtics
76ers

Warriors
Rockets
Lakers
Nuggets / OKC

No it'd be shit. They'd always have the best available player on MLE which will sometimes be a top talent and would be completely ridiculous. I think a team with AD and LeBron can only be beaten by current Warriors. What I'd also hate about this move is that Lakers have been pretending to be building through the draft for like 5 years and now they'd just throw it all away and, well, become Lakers again.

Rockets will not be contenders in the long run. They had their window last year, with every year CP3 will be getting worse and worse and they have their salary cap constrained.
 
No it'd be shit. They'd always have the best available player on MLE which will sometimes be a top talent and would be completely ridiculous. I think a team with AD and LeBron can only be beaten by current Warriors. What I'd also hate about this move is that Lakers have been pretending to be building through the draft for like 5 years and now they'd just throw it all away and, well, become Lakers again.

Rockets will not be contenders in the long run. They had their window last year, with every year CP3 will be getting worse and worse and they have their salary cap constrained.
If you go by that logic, there wouldn't be any team in the East either that could beat the Celtics with Irving, Davis and whoever else they get to keep, no matter how good the Bucks, 76ers or Raptors are seemingly playing right now.

The Lakers are arguably the biggest big market team in the NBA and will always attract star players who enter free agency, that's just how it is. This, combined with the fact that we've made poor use of our two #2 draft picks, justifies that we would go all out if a top 5 player like Davis becomes available.
 
lakers fans are a bunch of bitches. except bubz
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