PG has been incredible, good shout @Sarni
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Yeah he’s a lock for me at this point. Elite on both ends of the floor. KD has been great but PG edges it. Giannis is a no brainer, he’s been amazing and the fact I love Bucks helps me make this choice as well.
Blazers really bottled it when they refused to put CJ in an offer for him.
Amazing day of games tomorrow. Bucks vs Mavs and Nets vs Kings are my games of the evening, will probably wake up for Sixers vs Harden too.
Will find it so hard to resist Cavs v Bulls too.
Will find it so hard to resist Cavs v Bulls too.
Has there been a trade recently where two teams could genuinely say they’ve done great more than the Paul George trade?
It looked quite bad at the time for Pacers to only get Oladipo and Sabonis but both those guys have looked proper good.
It looked quite bad at the time for Pacers to only get Oladipo and Sabonis but both those guys have looked proper good.
Davis is having a great year stat wise, in fact it's incredible, but he's not leading his team anywhere.
Jokic is leading his team to a top #2 spot so far in the wild wild west, where they were considered a 6-10 team at the start of the season. He's been doing this despite missing 3 of the starting 5 players for a large chunk of the season, to the extent that Harris and Barton have played only a handful of games between them and are still on restricted minutes.
Edit: I acknowledge that Mirotic has missed a significant chunk of the season too, and when your depth is that thin it hurts.
I think that the Nuggets depth runs much deeper, but the top end talent on the Pelicans is better. In particular Holiday is the best player not named Jokic or Holiday. Randle is arguably better than any other Nuggets player too.
I think all things considered it would have to be the Joker at this stage. But no doubt they will pick Davis.
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Yeah great trade for both sides, which is just really rare.
Glad to see PG getting some love. He's been amazing this season. I'd have him, Giannis and Jokic (C is a tough one though) as the front-court. Curry and Harden as the backcourt.
I've always though PG would a 2nd star to support the main star, but this season I feel he has taken the role of the leader and really playing better than ever.
I thought the same. My hope was the he would be a great fit next to Westbrook and fill the 'Robin' role to Westbrook's Batman. OKC are in a weird situation at the moment though as there has been a clear shift towards PG being the best offensive player (and player overall) on the team. Part of Westbrook's struggles this year have come from him starting to take a backseat. He spoke a lot pre-season about forcing PG to stay aggressive by giving him the ball and it's really worked - for PG, not Russ. As Westbrook continues to age it looks like they'll keep gradually shifting to PG being the focal point.
Steph and Harden must be there. Davis for center, two out of KD, Giannis, Leonard and LeBron for the other two positions (probably Giannis and Leonard as things stand).
LeBron
. Missed way too much time. Leonard doesn't play back-to-backs. Insulting to not include PG.More insulting not including the Joker.
Just don't see him getting a spot in first two teams, with all of Giannis, KD, Leonard and LeBron playing in his position. He'll be in the third team.LeBron
Ahead of Davis? Really hard for it to happen. Think that he will battle with Embiid for the second team.
I would go with something like:
First team: Curry, Harden, Leonard/KD, Giannis, Davis
Second team: Lillard, Buttler, KD/Leonard, LeBron, Embiid
Third team: Irving, Oladipo, George, *, Jokic
Irving and Buttler might swap places, as might Jokic and Embiid. No clear candidate for the fourth position in the third team, unless I am forgetting someone obvious.
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George can swap with Butler. George has been much better so far this season.
Jokic should be ahead of both Davis and Embiid. The 76ers have much better top end talent than both the Nuggets and the Pelicans. Holiday is also better than any player the Nuggets have bar the Joker, and you could argue the same for Randle too.
Our squad bats deeper than both other sides though, but having said that the squad was tested with three of our starter missing a major chunk of the season - despite this they have the best record out of those three sides and are doing it in the West.
Does this stuff count or is it all about raw stats? I mean that sincerely - will they consider that or will they just look at the numbers.
George can swap with Butler. George has been much better so far this season.
Jokic should be ahead of both Davis and Embiid. The 76ers have much better top end talent than both the Nuggets and the Pelicans. Holiday is also better than any player the Nuggets have bar the Joker, and you could argue the same for Randle too.
Our squad bats deeper than both other sides though, but having said that the squad was tested with three of our starter missing a major chunk of the season - despite this they have the best record out of those three sides and are doing it in the West.
Does this stuff count or is it all about raw stats? I mean that sincerely - will they consider that or will they just look at the numbers.
If we're going by performance only, Jokic is the clear runner for first team all NBA at centre.
Steph / Harden / PG / Giannis / Jokic is first team all NBA for me so far.
And they've honestly been okaying at a level that's much higher than everyone else.
And they've honestly been okaying at a level that's much higher than everyone else.
Absolutely, though I consider George as small forward while Buttler as shooting guard. Regardless, I thought that there are rules like an All-Star when there must be 2 guards, which would have made George illegible for that position.
I was thinking he could just be wedged in there, but you're right there would be a restriction.
Kyrie has been miles better than Butler. He's been absolutely incredible this season. His improvement on defense is massively overlooked and he's still unstoppable on offense.
He's played as much as Curry, which you have in your team. And I don't think it's "insulting" to not include PG in first team, considering the competition.LeBron
Fair point. I didn't watch too much of Boston this season.
Butler should not even be close to third team let alone second team, come on.
Oladipo has no chance either. He's played 35 out of Indiana's 46 games and hasn't even been their best player this season. He's been scoring less, shooting worse and impacting overall team play less.
First Team: Curry / Harden / George / Giannis / Jokic
Second Team: Lillard / Kyrie / Durant / LeBron / Davis
Third Team: Kemba / Beal / Kawhi / Blake / Embiid
Bolded are locks i.e. players who have to be on at least one of your teams. If they're not there you are doing it wrong.
LeBron depends on how many games he misses. Kemba had a hot start but been average lately, Beal the opposite - let's see how they do for the rest of season and where their teams finish.
Butler should not even be considered for the situation at the beginning of season. He hasn't been better than any of those six guards anyway though.
Second Team: Lillard / Kyrie / Durant / LeBron / Davis
Third Team: Kemba / Beal / Kawhi / Blake / Embiid
Bolded are locks i.e. players who have to be on at least one of your teams. If they're not there you are doing it wrong.
LeBron depends on how many games he misses. Kemba had a hot start but been average lately, Beal the opposite - let's see how they do for the rest of season and where their teams finish.
Butler should not even be considered for the situation at the beginning of season. He hasn't been better than any of those six guards anyway though.
Ok, here's my full list for the season so far,
First Team: Curry / Harden / George / Giannis / Jokic
Second Team: Lillard / Kyrie / Durant / Davis / Embiid
Third Team: Kemba / Beal / LeBron / Kawhi / Vucevic
Rose and Capela are close to making my third team all NBA but Kemba and Vucevic edges out for now.
First Team: Curry / Harden / George / Giannis / Jokic
Second Team: Lillard / Kyrie / Durant / Davis / Embiid
Third Team: Kemba / Beal / LeBron / Kawhi / Vucevic
Rose and Capela are close to making my third team all NBA but Kemba and Vucevic edges out for now.
Vucevic is a good call if you slide Davis to PF (which he doesn’t play anymore) but Blake has been better than him. Blake has basically been the only positive player on Detroit roster, granted they are 20-25 (still better than Magic at 19-27) but they would probably be like 11-34 without him. I think he gets traded again at the end of season, he deserves to be on a better team. I would have him on Blazers in a heartbeat.
Rose’s resurgence has been fun but it’s not close for me. Capela is interesting but he can’t get over Embiid, Jokic and Davis, nor he should be considered above Towns and he will miss 4-6 weeks of basketball too which will eliminate him from this contest.
First G Curry G Harden F LeBron F Giannis C Davis
Second G Kyrie G Lillard F Kawhi F George C Jokic
Third G Kemba G Jrue F Vucevic F Aldridge C Embiid
The Nets are nowhere near the best team in the NBA, but they may well be the scrappiest. Another good win today versus the Kings leaving them at 25-23 and 8-2 in their last ten. Love watching them play. They never quit.
They were actually the worst team in clutch moments at the beginning of the season, was something totally crazy when they threw away so many games. The loss at New Orleans was ridiculous, I remember watching that game and wondering how they threw it away.
Sean Marks should get some sort of award for sure, what he’s done for them is nothing short of amazing.
- Refused to give out any terrible deals in the Summer of 2016 when everyone went crazy (I’m sure they had space?)
- Used cap space to absorb Mozgov and Carroll (he hasn’t actually been that bad) and got back Russell (been very good) and Toronto two picks in 2018 draft (Musa hasn’t played much, Kurucs has been awesome)
- Traded Bogdanovic for Washington’s pick and got Jarrett Allen for it
- Traded Thad Young for Indiana’s pick and got Caris LeVert
- Picked up Spencer Dinwiddie who was turned down by Detroit and turned him into a very good point guard
- Picked up Joe Harris off waivers, he’s been one of the 10 best shooters in the league
- Signed some good cheap free agents without commiting to long term contracts
- Absorbed Faried’s deal and got Denver’s pick for just a year of Faried
The only blemish is them taking on that Crabbe awful deal and to be fair they did try to waste that 2016 cap space on Crabbe and Tyler Johnson which resulted in Miami tying up $20million of their cap space for two consecutive years now.
They will have max slot available this year, hope they get someone decent and not waste it on Butler. Hope they can resign Russell on a good deal.
Dinwiddie, Russell, Harris, Allen, LeVert and Kurucs is a good young core. Graham has been decent and Musa could turn into something good too. If they strike out on Kawhi, and they almost certainly will, I want them to go for players like Tobias Harris, Mirotic etc.
Jahlil Okafor is back!
Good! I've felt sorry for him these last few years. He comes across as a good guy in the media.
Credit to him, they were the laughing stock of the league after the KG and the Truth trades. They were in such a dire place, but Marks has really turned it all around.
Plus their stadium is absolutely awesome IMO. I got to go there back in Oct 2016 (to watch the Wade, Rondo and Butler-led Bulls toy with them). Their fans were great and were cheering Wade on at the end of the game when he was pulling out some tricks and winding back the clock.
They have their pick this year though...so being good is counter intuitive. If they can pull of a FA signing then that probably matters less.
76ers are giving the Rockets the business.
I suppose you've got to start building a winning culture at some point. And if you aren't certain to finish last and get that beast Zion then what's the point? They aren't finishing bottom 4 even if they tried with the Cavs, NY, the Bulls and the Suns around.
Yeah it's a tough choice. New lottery rules mean you can still get a chance at #1 even if you aren't the two or three worst teams in the league. But on the other hand, a potential FA probably wants to see that the team can win. I think they're doing the right thing.
Not supposed to be a great draft this season.
Klay 17/20, with 10/11 from deep. He's back
They are too good to be a lottery team... they actually have two picks as Denver owes theirs to them as well. Considering they picked LeVert, Allen and Kurucs with worse picks than the ones they will have this year I trust their front office to still improve the team significantly with what they have.
I think they wanted to be relevant in free agency more than they wanted a top 10 pick.