NBA 2018-2019

JoaquinJoaquin said:
Not convinced Kerr is a great coach to be honest. Put him in any other situation that isn't the Warriors and i'm not so sure he would of won as many titles. If he had took the Knicks job for example, which he nearly did prior to GS, I think he would be back doing punditry work now.
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I get where you're coming from, but this can be said of "any" coach. Timing is key, and actually analyzing the team you're taking over and how it suits your philosophy is important. Unfortunately, many coaches, no matter the sport, just take on a job because it's a (lucrative) job. Almost like Solskjær back when he took over Cardiff. He should've known the situation with the owner and such, but he took the job anyway.
I'm sure Kerr would be way worse off, maybe even back as a pundit as you say, if he took over the Knicks. But then again, he didn't, and rather got involved with a group of players that seemingly was/is a perfect m,atch with the way he want's them to play basketball.

To make another comparison with football: where would Pep Guardiola be today if he took over Stoke or Real Zaragoza before he was offered the Barcelona job?
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Not convinced Kerr is a great coach to be honest. Put him in any other situation that isn't the Warriors and i'm not so sure he would of won as many titles. If he had took the Knicks job for example, which he nearly did prior to GS, I think he would be back doing punditry work now.
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Anybody who takes the Knicks job is on a hiding to nothing. As to Kerr, my feeling is he just doesn't want to rock the boat during the regular season. The team definitely has problems but he believes (like most people) that they will be solved come playoff time and he doesn't want to make a fuss this early in the season. If Kerr loses the team then I don't think they can come back, playoffs or no playoffs. Right now he is just trying to perform a balancing act in terms of how much to get involved. There is already a story out there that he wants more ball movement and KD wants more iso plays. Coaching these days is just as much about keeping the players happy as it is about wins and losses. You've almost got to be a therapist/confidante/big brother as well as a coach. I think Kerr does this as well as anybody.
 
charlton66 said:
Anybody who takes the Knicks job is on a hiding to nothing. As to Kerr, my feeling is he just doesn't want to rock the boat during the regular season. The team definitely has problems but he believes (like most people) that they will be solved come playoff time and he doesn't want to make a fuss this early in the season. If Kerr loses the team then I don't think they can come back, playoffs or no playoffs. Right now he is just trying to perform a balancing act in terms of how much to get involved. There is already a story out there that he wants more ball movement and KD wants more iso plays. Coaching these days is just as much about keeping the players happy as it is about wins and losses. You've almost got to be a therapist/confidante/big brother as well as a coach. I think Kerr does this as well as anybody.
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Yes for teams with multiple elite players the coaching is more about ego/personality management than it should have to be.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Yes for teams with multiple elite players the coaching is more about ego/personality management than it should have to be.
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Especially the Warriors this season.

Dray/KD/Boogie are some of the biggest man-childs that have ever played the game and keeping them all happy can't be easy.
 
charlton66 said:
Anybody who takes the Knicks job is on a hiding to nothing. As to Kerr, my feeling is he just doesn't want to rock the boat during the regular season. The team definitely has problems but he believes (like most people) that they will be solved come playoff time and he doesn't want to make a fuss this early in the season. If Kerr loses the team then I don't think they can come back, playoffs or no playoffs. Right now he is just trying to perform a balancing act in terms of how much to get involved. There is already a story out there that he wants more ball movement and KD wants more iso plays. Coaching these days is just as much about keeping the players happy as it is about wins and losses. You've almost got to be a therapist/confidante/big brother as well as a coach. I think Kerr does this as well as anybody.
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Of course he believes (or hopes fingers crossed) that all the problems come good by the playoffs. It's his job to say that. I may be proved wrong but I just don't see Kerr being a massively successful coach once he leaves this GSW team. It is totally a right place, right time scenario for him.

Chances are GSW probably will come good playoff time, But it's not all as plain sailing as previous years. There is certainly a feeling that an upset could potentially be on the cards if the team stays how it is right now. Either way, the dynasty is on life support...
 
Coaching in the NBA has always been about getting the best out of your stars. Come on. Popovich was nearly sacked before the Spurs landed Duncan. And does anybody believe the spurs wouldn't have sacked him if Duncan told them he didn't like him?
 
I’m in SF at the moment and was at the Warriors Rockets game - Harden. Amazing. Warriors looked in complete control the first 3 quarters but Rockers hung around. What a performance. My first NBA game as well!
 
Interesting to see how long this Harden thing lasts and how Houston look if/when he cools off. Surely it isn't sustainable. If it is, then fair play to him and well done on another MVP.
 
ZDwyr said:
Interesting to see how long this Harden thing lasts and how Houston look if/when he cools off. Surely it isn't sustainable. If it is, then fair play to him and well done on another MVP.
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I think we are finally seeing his peak, and tbf its not he hasn't been amazing the last 4 seasons and especially the last two.
 
JarleA said:
I get where you're coming from, but this can be said of "any" coach. Timing is key, and actually analyzing the team you're taking over and how it suits your philosophy is important. Unfortunately, many coaches, no matter the sport, just take on a job because it's a (lucrative) job. Almost like Solskjær back when he took over Cardiff. He should've known the situation with the owner and such, but he took the job anyway.
I'm sure Kerr would be way worse off, maybe even back as a pundit as you say, if he took over the Knicks. But then again, he didn't, and rather got involved with a group of players that seemingly was/is a perfect m,atch with the way he want's them to play basketball.

To make another comparison with football: where would Pep Guardiola be today if he took over Stoke or Real Zaragoza before he was offered the Barcelona job?
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giorno said:
No need. The version of Kyrie that played with LeBron was not better than the version of Pippen that played with MJ. Just no
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Ok, I didn't mean that the version of Kyrie that played with LeBron was better than peak Pippen. But I do believe that Kyrie will end the greater player at the end of his career. All I wanted to say was that LeBron had a great second guy in Kyrie. He averaged 27 and 29 in finals, Pippen never averaged more than 21. I know Pippen was more of a defensive player but when you have a guy to average 27 and 29 to help you, you can't ask for more.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
I share this opinion. Somehow LBJ carrying poor sides to the finals and losing is held against him, whilst MJ couldn't get good poor sides to the championship games until the 90's. LBJ was taking his team there at a younger age.
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This is the thing I never get with the debate. People act like it would be better for Bron to go out in the Conference Finals or the 1st round or something than go out in the finals. Getting to the Finals is a huge achievement.

In Basketball too much is made of rings too. Some try and say Kobe is better than Bron because he has more rings. No objective breakdown of skills, achievements or circumstances ... Just rings. What the hell?
 
Skills said:
What's GSW's cap situation at the end of this season?
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They can sign mid-level exception players ($9million) unless they resign both Durant and Klay, then they will be only able to use half of that.
 
Redlips said:
This is the thing I never get with the debate. People act like it would be better for Bron to go out in the Conference Finals or the 1st round or something than go out in the finals. Getting to the Finals is a huge achievement.

In Basketball too much is made of rings too. Some try and say Kobe is better than Bron because he has more rings. No objective breakdown of skills, achievements or circumstances ... Just rings. What the hell?
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It's worse in the NFL where individual players have even less of an impact.
 
Sarni said:
They can sign mid-level exception players ($9million) unless they resign both Durant and Klay, then they will be only able to use half of that.
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How fecked are they with luxury tax if they resign one or both? And isn't Draymond due a renewal this summer?
 
Skills said:
How fecked are they with luxury tax if they resign one or both? And isn't Draymond due a renewal this summer?
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Very. Over $300million in payroll including repeater tax offender penalties if they resign their stars (and not trade any of high earners e.g. Livingston and Iguodala).

Draymond has contract until 2020. They can resign him next Summer but won’t.
 
R.E.D. said:
Ok, I didn't mean that the version of Kyrie that played with LeBron was better than peak Pippen. But I do believe that Kyrie will end the greater player at the end of his career. All I wanted to say was that LeBron had a great second guy in Kyrie. He averaged 27 and 29 in finals, Pippen never averaged more than 21. I know Pippen was more of a defensive player but when you have a guy to average 27 and 29 to help you, you can't ask for more.
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I don't think anybody's doubting Kyrie's contributions in those finals. But the only team LBJ was one that was comparable to MJ's bulls in terms of supporting cast was the Heatles, between 2011-2013(2014 they were past it. Wade was still pretty good but no longer capable of being a star next to LeBron throughout the entire playoffs. Bosh disappeared and the rest of the team by then was mostly trash). I would say before 2016 there was little question as to who was the better player, but now? It's a legitimate argument that LeBron is better. LeBron reached his peak between 2012 and now
 
Joker killing it.


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Bucks are playing Kawhi's laugh after a backcourt violation by the Raptors.
 
Silver should make a new rule that automatically gives the #1 pick for Zion to a well run club that deserves him, and not fecking Cleveland or Phoenix :mad:

This kid is unreal
 
giorno said:
Silver should make a new rule that automatically gives the #1 pick for Zion to a well run club that deserves him, and not fecking Cleveland or Phoenix :mad:

This kid is unreal
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Zion to the Warriors confirmed.
 
Lakers are rubbish without LBJ, he makes such a ridiculous difference to their side.

They need to trade Ball and Ingram ASAP if it can somehow help bring in AD.
 
Reports are coming out that the Timberwolves have just fired Thibs
 
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