Westbrook went for 3/20 from the field. Still got his triple double so he's happy though.
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I share this opinion. Somehow LBJ carrying poor sides to the finals and losing is held against him, whilst MJ couldn't get good poor sides to the championship games until the 90's. LBJ was taking his team there at a younger age.
AD had 34 points and 26 rebounds last night and Pelicans still lost by 5 and were down 18 before final quarter.
Moreover 4 of their starters had over 20 points but the bench got outscored 55-5 (FIFTY FIVE TO FIVE).
They’ve done such a terrible job building around him. I don’t really see how he could stay with them past this Summer, he clearly wants to win and it’s obvious he’s not going to win in New Orleans.
Moreover 4 of their starters had over 20 points but the bench got outscored 55-5 (FIFTY FIVE TO FIVE).
They’ve done such a terrible job building around him. I don’t really see how he could stay with them past this Summer, he clearly wants to win and it’s obvious he’s not going to win in New Orleans.
Would it be possible for the Clippers to get both him and Kawhi? I know they are quietly confident they'll get Leonard. But I don't know their cap situation well enough to know if they can get both. Would be a good defensive pairing though.
I don’t think they have the assets to get Davis. They could sign Kawhi in free agency and then get AD but I don’t see what they could potentially send back. A package centered around Gallinari and Jerome Robinson won’t do the job here.
Pelicans will want multiple picks and/or top young assets. Something like two or three from Kuzma, Hart, Ingram and Ball from Lakers or some of Brown, Smart and Memphis and Sacramento picks from Boston. Alternatively I think Tatum, one pick and a salary filler could do the job (problem for Celtics is that they don’t really have any salary fillers after this Summer, everyone who makes serious money there is very useful for them).
I think they will extend Harris instead. I’m 50/50 on them getting Kawhi. They have cap space for two max players and could even create over $80million if they traded Gallinari which should be possible with the kind of season he’s been having.
So much wrong with this I don't know where to start.
Check the East teams roster when Jordan was going through all those finals. Check Pacers and Knicks teams at that time for example. The man was untouchable in a way never seen before or after that. He never beat a 73 win team? He couldn't as he was the man behind the 72 win team. Didn't need to join and create big 3 to get his first title, but now the whole narrative is that LBJ carried trash to the finals?
And the team that young Jordan carried all the way to the Eastern finals all those years was star stocked?
First time Jordan got any meaningful help in Pippen (first season Pippen went to All-Star and manage to score around 20 PPG) he won the title and never look back.
Never choked, never ever allowed game 7 in the final and if you think those Lakers, Blazers, Suns or Jazz teams were sorry teams you're out of your mind. There were no super-teams, but the quality around the league was much higher. Only super team were Bulls and the reason for that is beacuse they had MJ.
The problem LeBron has is that he is battling pretty much with perfection and as fantastic he is, he ain't perfect.
One thing I'll admit though. Lebron career isn't over and because of that it is too early to put a definite comparison as he could very well still make something remarkable even with this Lakers team. As it is now, he falls short.
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The quality in the 90s was higher than now? I couldn't disagree more. You sure it's not your nostalgia talking?
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Just looking the state in what East is/was all these years, absolutely.
Quality around the league was not much higher in the 90s. Let us not be ridiculous.
I wouldn't be shocked if he is dealt by the deadline. Problem is, what return they will get.
Most logical would be to try get Tatum and Smart \ Rozier or something along those lines. That way gives the Pelicans a future after losing AD.
The quality is better now than the 90's overall, and I say that as a Knicks fan whose team were one of the East's juggernauts.
However some aspects of the 90's game I prefer, like I absolutely hate this new fouling rule where the shooter is jumping into the defender and getting the foul. And the superstar calls are beyond a joke now. Harden, AD etc get a call for absolutely everything and there is no parity. The toughness of the 90's was great.
However some aspects of the 90's game I prefer, like I absolutely hate this new fouling rule where the shooter is jumping into the defender and getting the foul. And the superstar calls are beyond a joke now. Harden, AD etc get a call for absolutely everything and there is no parity. The toughness of the 90's was great.
Celtics cannot trade for him this season because of rule of being allowed to have only one designated player. They must extend Kyrie first which they cannot do before the offseason.
Lakers can trade for him now but I feel it would be risky move considering how well their young core has played and the fact that they can maintain their cap space into the Summer and then potentially still make a move for AD. Then again LeBron and AD on the same team is scary even if all you surround them with is Lance and Javale.
The quality was more evenly distributed across the league imo which meant you didn't have to face monster team in the final, but overall had a much tougher way to the final itself. That was what I meant when I said that the league had more quality overall, but I can understand if people don't agree with such reasoning.
As for the defence, you would get few ejections in today's game based on what was allowed at times, especially in the late 80's, early 90's and even later during the playoffs. I prefer some middle ground looking at then and now as Pistons defence looked like it was created during American football drills.
How do you think the bigs from the 90's would fare in today's game?
I think guys like Shaq, Hakeem the Dream, Karl Malone, etc would all be the best bigs in the game currently.
I can see what you mean. The fact it was a more open competition I did like, Although you could argue the MJ Bulls are very similar to what we have now in the GSW. One major thing I preferred was the fact that star players took on the mantle of trying to win the championships with their own franchises rather than running to super teams etc like we get now. A Boogie Cousins type would of stayed at the Kings and tried to win at that team, rather than just running to the Warriors like a little bitch.
The Pistons defence etc was like a wall and very boring, but at the same time it meant the superstars had to work even harder to break them down. Now the superstars get the calls for absolutely everything and jump into defenders initiating contact, meaning they can easily get their points. Far too easy. I love the NBA but they need to sort this out, However I understand it's all about making the scoreboards and box scores higher.
To enforce my point about the sheer amount of calls being made in games, The Sixers vs Suns game the other night had 17 calls in the first quarter alone 
Of course they would but they were also the best bigs in the 90s?
Part of my point was that the best bigs from then are better than the best bigs now.
So how do y'all rate Luka Doncic?
2nd best European player behind Dirk.
Amazing.
Giannis and the Joker disagree
Wait and watch.
2nd best european player behind giannis
Said so in this thread already
Said so in this thread already
See you in 15 years once his career wraps up.
Right now though he's got to get in line behind Giannis and the Joker.
Like I said those teams were teams Lebron would run through. MJ faced a HIV washed up magic Johnson washed up lakers. Suns , blazers and jazz only 1 really stand out player and blazers had some injuries. You cant just talk about the finals when like I said the pistons ran through him. Without Pippin those stats change quite a bit. He never faced no prime Bird or no Prime Johnson because he couldn't even make it past the Pistons to take on the showtime lakers. Lebron has had worse teams then Jordan has. Also GSW would beat that bulls team in the finals. Lebron vs 4 hall of famers let that sink in they needed 2 MVP to beat this man.
Once again its all opinions and I respect if someone says MJ I just think that certain facts people used there are more to it than what's seen.
Pretty hard to evalute different eras in any sport, but don't see any reason why they shouldn't be among the best.
One was freak of nature and the other two while having the physicality also had immense intelligence as basketball players.
East has been top heavy for years even before LeBron was drafted. His finals streak would actually mean something if he had to play more than 1 hard series in the East annually.
He literally plays against teams who are tanking in the damn playoffs for feck sakes. Stop insulting MJ's opponents when LeBron's opponents aren't even anywhere near their level till the finals. LeBron's not getting past the Bad Boy Pistons and Bird's Celtics unless it's the Heatles and even than it's going to be a full 7 games to decide who wins instead of the 4-0 warmup that LeBron is used to in the East.
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MJ played against milkmen and accountants
You do realise Bird won the MVP the first time MJ lost to them in the playoffs? And that washed up Magic was just a year removed from winning the MVP when MJ beat him for his first ring?
Stop making up shit to make LeBron's achievement look better. LeBron has always had a cakewalk to the Finals, MJ would have an even more ridiculous finals streak if you put him in LeBron's position. LeBron's not getting past the first round if he's matched up against Bird's Celtics and the Pistons.
And saying that they needed 2 MVP to win LeBron is bullshit when the Warriors already won a Finals against him without KD.
MJ literally faces tougher teams in the first round of the playoffs than LeBron faces in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Yeah, when it was just him and Dellevedonkey
Lakers still struggling to see out games without LeBron. Imagine the roster will be different in 7 weeks time.
Somehow all stars always manage to be rubbish once they team up with LeBron, wonder what's the common factor between all of them.
MJ the GOAT