The Wizards are a real shambles. Predictions on where Wall/Beal end up?
EDIT: And of course they come back and beat the Clippers.
EDIT: And of course they come back and beat the Clippers.
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I agree, the West is annoyingly competitive. Only one team is way under 0.500.
Only three possible destinations for Wall in the league IMO: Phoenix, New Orleans and Orlando. Nobody else needs a starter quality point guard.
As for Beal half the league will want him. Apparently Charlotte want to go all in to pair him with Kemba but they will find it very difficult to come up with a good deal.
Wall's contract, in addition to his locker-room issues, probably mean no one will really want him. The idea of him and AD is intriguing though. Especially with Mirotic, Randle and some other OK pieces.
I think they would have to give up Randle to make the money work.
I’d imagine the Lakers going balls deep for Beal. They’d kill for decent shooters.
As for Wall, a couple years ago half the NBA would have lined up, but today? Dunno.
As for Wall, a couple years ago half the NBA would have lined up, but today? Dunno.
How about Kemba? He's having a great season, and is a free agent this coming offseason. He's expecting a pay day, that's for sure.
I can only see Lakers gutting the young core for a top 20 or top 15 player, not Beal.
Id imagine KCP and Beasley can't be traded yet as they signed in the summer.
I don't think Lakers will be that interested in Beal. He would restrict their options in free agency next year (basically making it impossible to sign a max contract player) and would likely strip them off of assets necessary to make AD trade possible. I assume they would need to offer KCP (to match salaries), one of the young core (Ingram most likely, maybe Kuzma or Hart instead would work but I doubt it) and another contract for deals to match. Their picks are not really worth that much as of now.
If you lock yourself to Beal as your second best player and lose a potentially very good NBA player in the process, it's not a good deal. This is a transition year for Lakers, they aren't winning the title in June so they may as well wait and see what free agency brings. They can easily start next season with one of the big players in their roster.
Only three possible destinations for Wall as I said. I think he will go to Phoenix but NO are a dark horse, they could go all in and offer a big package without thinking about long term consequences (their tax bill would be astounding).
They cannot be traded until 15th December.
The Power of Steph.
Since the beginning of season 2016-17 when KD joined the Dubs we have the following:
Steph/KD/Klay/Draymond on the court +16.9/100 possessions in 1,921 minutes.
Steph/Klay/Draymond on the court +14.8/100 possessions in 672 minutes.
Steph/Draymond on the court +13.9/100 possessions in 526 minutes.
Steph on the court +14.3/100 possessions in 216 minutes.
To recap, the Warriors go from plus-16.9 to plus-14.8 to plus-13.9 to plus-14.3 as you keep removing an All-Star from Curry. But as these numbers show, Curry is impervious. He's teammate-agnostic. For those that think Curry would struggle in another organization or in another system, it’s clear: He is the system.
When Steph is no longer on the court.
KD/Klay/Draymond on the court +4.9/100 possessions in 591 minutes.
Now what if we looked at what happens with a solo Durant? If he truly is a better all-around player than Curry, it would stand to reason that he’d be able to fill in more gaps without stars around him. Remember, solo Curry still obliterated opponents without the help of other stars.
The scoreboard with solo Durant: Minus-0.5/100 possessions in 417 minutes.
Don’t believe these in-game lineup numbers? With Curry active and no Durant over the last three seasons, the Warriors are 24-3, outscoring opponents by 353 points for an average win margin of 13.1.
Remember when the Steph-led Warriors uncorked a 13-game win streak when Durant hurt his MCL in 2016? Believe it or not, that win streak is still rolling. In fact, the Steph-led, sans-Durant Warriors have won 21 straight games, with 16 of those victories registering by double-digit margins.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...aberstroh/steph-curry-warriors-breaking-point
Since the beginning of season 2016-17 when KD joined the Dubs we have the following:
Steph/KD/Klay/Draymond on the court +16.9/100 possessions in 1,921 minutes.
Steph/Klay/Draymond on the court +14.8/100 possessions in 672 minutes.
Steph/Draymond on the court +13.9/100 possessions in 526 minutes.
Steph on the court +14.3/100 possessions in 216 minutes.
To recap, the Warriors go from plus-16.9 to plus-14.8 to plus-13.9 to plus-14.3 as you keep removing an All-Star from Curry. But as these numbers show, Curry is impervious. He's teammate-agnostic. For those that think Curry would struggle in another organization or in another system, it’s clear: He is the system.
When Steph is no longer on the court.
KD/Klay/Draymond on the court +4.9/100 possessions in 591 minutes.
Now what if we looked at what happens with a solo Durant? If he truly is a better all-around player than Curry, it would stand to reason that he’d be able to fill in more gaps without stars around him. Remember, solo Curry still obliterated opponents without the help of other stars.
The scoreboard with solo Durant: Minus-0.5/100 possessions in 417 minutes.
Don’t believe these in-game lineup numbers? With Curry active and no Durant over the last three seasons, the Warriors are 24-3, outscoring opponents by 353 points for an average win margin of 13.1.
Remember when the Steph-led Warriors uncorked a 13-game win streak when Durant hurt his MCL in 2016? Believe it or not, that win streak is still rolling. In fact, the Steph-led, sans-Durant Warriors have won 21 straight games, with 16 of those victories registering by double-digit margins.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...aberstroh/steph-curry-warriors-breaking-point
We still doing this?
Let's get back to talking about how Memphis missed the playoffs last year.
Hey KD is probably leaving next year, next month, next week depending on which media outlet you listen to. I've got to make myself feel better somehow.
....and the numbers are pretty impressive.
Somebody predicted that early on too. Damned if I can remember who though......................
Agree, Beal won't improve that much Lakers. They should just wait and get one of KD, Kawhi or Klay in the summer, without needing to remove one of Ingram/Kuzma who are very good players.
The more I am thinking, the more I see the appeal in KD joining Lakers. It likely won't happen, but it would be fun to see him and LeGod playing in the same team.
I'm not so sure KD is leaving.
To be honest I would have rather not made it and got Jaren Jackson Jr than make it and get swept by New Orleans like my team did.
Where's the bit about blowing a 3-1 lead in the NBA finals? #Neverforget
Yeah was wondering that too.
Also let's not forget that Curry goes missing when it matters.
Steph is the modern day T-Mac.
Can I just point out that Steph has a higher points per game average in the NBA finals and also in the playoffs overall than Kobe Bryant. He is actually top 10 all time for playoff scoring at over 26 points/game and 25.4 for the finals themselves. I would hardly call that going missing when it matters.
Wait what? No he doesn’t.
Am I wrong? What was Curry's averages in the 2016 finals? All this talk of him being far and away the best player on the warriors and he hasn't even won Finals MVP once.
His averages in the 2016 finals were 23/5/4. Not his best but certainly not bad. As for finals MVP he got 4 out of 11 this last time so there were certainly people out there who thought he should have won. I've got to admit I was not one of them and would have given it to KD myself. However in 2015 he was just out and out robbed. He averaged 26/5/6 and Andre Iguodala averaged 16/5/4. They supposedly gave it to Andre because he was classed as the LeBron stopper closing down James to the extent that it allowed the Warriors to win. It was never mentioned that LeBron had career highs in points/assists/rebounds in those finals (he has since surpassed those assists totals) and Steph was the leading scorer for the Dubs in all four of their wins averaging almost 28/game. That he didn't get finals MVP in 2015 was a travesty.
Yeah thanks for that gift, Jaren is awesome.
Kill it with fire.
Lakers closing down the gap now. Should cruise to an easy dub from here on out.
My comment was a bit tongue in cheek. Lebron should have won Finals MVP in '16, best performance in a losing effort since Barkley for me. Steph probably has become a victim of how good his team has become, you can't see him getting enough shots in a finals to get the eye popping numbers that would put him on par with other great Finals performers. If KD does leave it will give him the opportunity to cement himself as one of the true all-time great playoff performers.
What on earth is going on with the Celtics? 18 games in I know but they really shouldn't be losing to the Knicks at home under any circumstances. Their offense is terrible. Brad Stevens maybe a tad overrated?
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Well, Memphis are clearly going to win the West.
It’s ya boy
I did not catch the game last night but Bucks are the best team in the league currently and it seems like they are getting better and better with time. If they could pull off 2-3 trades to address bench issues (or improve Brogdon's position) they'd be legit contenders.
Thankfully we have a super easy game on Friday so will be simple to get back to the winning ways.
Thankfully we have a super easy game on Friday so will be simple to get back to the winning ways.
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Chemistry issues. They’re too stacked with talent (and not in a good way either) and Hayward has missed a years worth of basketball because of his terrible injury. Also to me it looks like Irving’s mind is elsewhere.
I still expect them to make the ECF though.
I’ve already put money on themgetting out of the east and separately on them winning the thing. Used to be a long shot but looking at the Warriors I’m getting a little moist at the possibility. Best yet if they succumb to the Raptors then I’m still happy for obvious reasons
I’ve already put money on themgetting out of the east and separately on them winning the thing. Used to be a long shot but looking at the Warriors I’m getting a little moist at the possibility. Best yet if they succumb to the Raptors then I’m still happy for obvious reasons
Yeah they are also a bad matchup for the Warriors. Giannis is one of the few players who can guard Durant, Bledsoe is a very good defender playing at 100 mph who can make life tough for Steph and Middleton is a good enough defender to challenge Klay too. Their bench is probably also stronger than Warriors (even if it's not that good). They probably wouldn't win it but could steal 1-2 games from Warriors I think.
Then of course if any of Warriors big 4 get injured it goes to shit.
I think Bucks might still have a couple of trades in them. I've seen rumors about being interested in Beal but I don't think they can make that deal unless Wizards just want to dump him and take fifty cents on the dollar. Otto Porter is more realistic and attainable. I actually want Otto at Blazers though, despite his bad contract - Lillard, McCollum and Porter would be a proper force on offense and Otto is a pretty decent defender too.