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Aye, P, Houston don't even want me comin' off the bench.
NBA 2018-2019
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Aye, P, Houston don't even want me comin' off the bench.
Great game from Butler, 12-15 shooting and 2-3 from three. On the other hand Utah must sign second scorer, they can’t have Mitchell jacking up 35 shots and scoring just 31 points on those attempts with 1-11 from three (0 assists too).
Wolves were impressive last night. Looks like my Portland are back to the mean. Should make the playoffs but probably not as second seed.
Wolves were impressive last night. Looks like my Portland are back to the mean. Should make the playoffs but probably not as second seed.
Second seed in the West is pretty open this year. Unless Houston start clicking now but I still think they're not as good as last season even with Melo gone. Utah were my pick for 2nd but they aren't looking that good at all.
Houston were amazing last year mainly because they were great defensively with Capela, Ariza, Mbah a Moute and Tucker. Two of them are gone and so is their depth, they are bribing some crap off the bench and over the course of season it will cost them many games. I still don’t get why they let Mbah a Moute go, Ariza was about money and I can’t blame them when he got $15million for this season from Phoenix but Luc signed a perfectly fine deal with Clippers that Rockets could have afforded.
Second will be between Houston, OKC, Portland, Lakers and maybe Utah or Denver. I don’t think it will take more than 55 wins to make it.
this really ruins the game for me
Yeah those yellow uniforms are hideous
The black court at Fiserv Forum is dope. That third quarter from the Bucks was too.
Why is Simmons so reluctant to shoot? That could be yet another good thing coming off Butler trade, Butler is a dominant player and will have the ball in his hand a lot. This will force Ben to learn to play off the ball and maybe eventually learn to shoot. It’s just about taking the attempts now, he may score less than 30% of his three point attempts but it’s important that he at least tries to take them. 76ers are an interesting case because if it all clicks for them they could be contenders but you could also see it all going to hell from here. They would have not lost the Celtics series last year with Butler though, he will help them immensely in closing out tight games which nobody on that team was able to do.
Why is Simmons so reluctant to shoot? That could be yet another good thing coming off Butler trade, Butler is a dominant player and will have the ball in his hand a lot. This will force Ben to learn to play off the ball and maybe eventually learn to shoot. It’s just about taking the attempts now, he may score less than 30% of his three point attempts but it’s important that he at least tries to take them. 76ers are an interesting case because if it all clicks for them they could be contenders but you could also see it all going to hell from here. They would have not lost the Celtics series last year with Butler though, he will help them immensely in closing out tight games which nobody on that team was able to do.
Yet another loss for the Dubs. Can we finally get past this narrative that KD is the best player on this team. They showed a graphic the other day on First Take which showed since KD joined the team the Dubs are 24-3 in games Steph's played and he hasn't. They are now 1-3 in the last five days with KD on the court and Steph out.
Yep, they don't - and never did - need him. They just needed him to not be with OKC.
EDIT: In KD's defence (vomit), they didn't have Draymond tonight either.
EDIT: In KD's defence (vomit), they didn't have Draymond tonight either.
Guess who leads the Western conference 
Nuggets in 6th only one game back. Crazy how competitive this conference is.
They are 15-1 or something like that in playoffs games with no curry but kd playing.
Dubs need Steph right now. KD and Klay are shooting miserably (especially from the three-point line).
Only LeBron might be more important for a team than Steph. He makes players surrounding him much better with his high speed and his ability to shoot from Jupiter creates space for other players.
Only LeBron might be more important for a team than Steph. He makes players surrounding him much better with his high speed and his ability to shoot from Jupiter creates space for other players.
I remember watching Stephen A Smith interview CJ McCollum last season where he flat out accused him of having no ambition and telling him to leave the Blazers and let the team blow it up. Prick.Guess who leads the Western conference
But he also said the Celtics were gonna walk the East and Melo was going to prove everyone wrong at Houston
.This LeBron fella is a decent player. Destroyed Miami last night.
What's the deal with your tagline?
Hope you are enjoying the Kevin Durant disasterclass shows.
I guess cause I make many assumptions.What's the deal with your tagline?
Hope you are enjoying the Kevin Durant disasterclass shows.
He'll be fine. Shitty situation though that both his and Klay's 3 pointers have gone to shit at the same time.
It's almost like without Curry and Draymond they cannot get the same good shooting positions.
Guess who leads the Western conference
Not Memphis?
Of course, especially considering that those two are the primary playmakers of the team. Saying that I doubt that those two would have been doing much better if both KD and Klay were missing.It's almost like without Curry and Draymond they cannot get the same good shooting positions.
Another scintillating performance from KD. At least he can still hit free throws.Since
It's 5-1 not 15=1. They basically won a first round series without him. The Dubs are 2-0 without KD, once again another first round series.
From MSN.
Curry and Thompson are the lone non-rookie Warriors on the books through 2019-20 should Thompson stick around. Locking up Green will take up significant cap space, and likely keep Golden State out of the hunt for a max free agent. If Green is sent walking, though, the Warriors could be the premier shark in the free-agent market. The projected 2020 class pales in comparison to 2019. Barring a big name going the route of signing a one-year contract in 2019 with a player option for 2020 (the route Durant took this summer) there’s one big name on the market: Anthony Davis.
AD replacing KD would send shudders throughout the league. It seems like a natural fit. Davis would fill the frontcourt void left by Durant and form a lethal two-man game with Curry. After years of toiling away on fringe playoff teams, what better way to navigate the latter rounds of the postseason than with the Warriors? There’s no stronger infrastructure in the league. Golden State could be aggressive and look to deal Green in a package for Davis, but it could make more sense to be patient, play 2019-20 with the pre-Durant Big 3, then hunt for Davis in July 2020.
The Warriors transformed the league two years ago, bringing in Durant to create a collection of talent unseen this century. Davis’s free agency will give them a chance to do it again.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/what-does-a-post-durant-future-entail-for-warriors/ar-BBPSkBx
Curry and Thompson are the lone non-rookie Warriors on the books through 2019-20 should Thompson stick around. Locking up Green will take up significant cap space, and likely keep Golden State out of the hunt for a max free agent. If Green is sent walking, though, the Warriors could be the premier shark in the free-agent market. The projected 2020 class pales in comparison to 2019. Barring a big name going the route of signing a one-year contract in 2019 with a player option for 2020 (the route Durant took this summer) there’s one big name on the market: Anthony Davis.
AD replacing KD would send shudders throughout the league. It seems like a natural fit. Davis would fill the frontcourt void left by Durant and form a lethal two-man game with Curry. After years of toiling away on fringe playoff teams, what better way to navigate the latter rounds of the postseason than with the Warriors? There’s no stronger infrastructure in the league. Golden State could be aggressive and look to deal Green in a package for Davis, but it could make more sense to be patient, play 2019-20 with the pre-Durant Big 3, then hunt for Davis in July 2020.
The Warriors transformed the league two years ago, bringing in Durant to create a collection of talent unseen this century. Davis’s free agency will give them a chance to do it again.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/what-does-a-post-durant-future-entail-for-warriors/ar-BBPSkBx
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You can’t trade Green for Davis. It doesn’t work like that.
I don’t think they can create enough cap space to go after Davis in 2020 either. Of course that considers getting rid of Draymond but still you would be paying close to $40million to Curry, $28million or so to Klay and you need to set aside $20million at least for rotation/scrub players. They won’t be able to give Davis a max.
Signing Durant was very, very lucky cap wise. Under normal circumstances things like that don’t happen. You can’t have two super max players and another max player on one team.
I don’t think they can create enough cap space to go after Davis in 2020 either. Of course that considers getting rid of Draymond but still you would be paying close to $40million to Curry, $28million or so to Klay and you need to set aside $20million at least for rotation/scrub players. They won’t be able to give Davis a max.
Signing Durant was very, very lucky cap wise. Under normal circumstances things like that don’t happen. You can’t have two super max players and another max player on one team.
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If we're looking at 2019 it wouldn't be a one for one trade since you've got to make the salaries balance. It would have to be some sort of package as pointed out in the article. As to 2020 and free agency, if Durant is gone that is 30 million off the books, Iggy and Draymond would have to go either through trade or contract expiration so that would be another 36 million no longer being paid out and Klay would probably be making at least 30 million so that is an 11 million increase, probably more like 13-15 million if we're being honest. I'm not exactly sure of the ins and outs of the salary cap but it sounds like there should be enough money available to bring AD on board.
You would need to replace draymond and iggy(to a smaller extent though) which should cost you guys 10-16m.
We're (joint) second!
It doesn’t work like that. Warriors salaries are right now $145million and that does not include pay rise that Klay will get. If you extend Klay at $28million in year 1 (which he will get) you will be at around $120million next year if Durant opts out but would only have 8 players left so would need to spend another $15million to fill remaining 7 roster spots.
Admittedly Iguodala and Livingston expire at the end of 2019-20 so what will be left on payroll would be Curry ($43.5million for 2020-21) and Klay (assuming he will receive around $31million in 2020-21). The cap could go up to $115million or so by that time (very optimistic) which would leave $41million without considering ANY players aside from those two. And you will have rookies, random signings from next offseason and all other players you will need to fill out the roster.
You can go above salary cap to re-sign your own players. You can’t go back to $145million by signing new players in free agency (unless via sign and trade like Houston did with Paul).
Yeah even if you sign MLE players they cost you almost $9million these days.
So basically what you're telling me is that they would have to do a trade/sign and trade to make this work. I appreciate the info. I always said you knew more about this stuff than I do.
how did you become a memphis fan anyway?
The Knicks sucked ass around the time I started getting into basketball (Isiah Thomas the coach was literally Moyes). Something about their style at the time resonated with me. Conley being a OSU alum sealed the deal
how did you become an ohio state fan
I went there for school
how did you become
No
Yes but the problem is Paul’s move to Houston was a bit easier as this was essentially a trade after he opted into his final year of Clippers contract. We get the impression he signed for them through free agency but he didn’t - he was supposed to have become a free agent then but because he chose Houston he was traded there instead.
In theory you could do the same with Davis but he would need to give up on $5million or so he would get on top of his current 2020-21 salary and would need to sign a long term deal a year later. You would also have to find $28.7million in guaranteed contracts to deliver to Pelicans - and if you are doing this at the end of 2019-20 season you cannot include any of Iguodala, Livingston or Green unless you extend them first because they all run out before 2020-21. Basically you need to include Klay or several scrub players (but would be hard to make them into combined $28million).
Someone needs to sign him before the end of 2019-20 IMO although Lakers and Celtics would still be able to come up with a deal in the offseason to get him via sign and trade and in Lakers case it’s not unthinkable that they would have cap space to absorb him into straight up if they don’t sign a big money free agent in 2019 (their options will be limited IMO). Celtics won’t have the cap space for sure but will have many ways to trade for him and match salaries - Hayward, Smart can be included and then you will also perhaps have extended Rozier and Brown.
My bet is either on Celtics making a deal for him or some completely unexpected franchise going all in.
You reckon it’s a legit playoffs run or will the team fall away at some point? Honestly I expected Memphis to be much better this year but still had them around 40-42 wins at best. I guess it’s easy to forget how good Conley and Gasol are.
(until tomorrow at least)
If Conley and Gasol remain healthy then 40 wins will be the expectation.
As for if we can make a good playoffs run, I'll want to see us against you guys and Houston more before I make that determination.
I think 44 will be needed to make the playoffs though.
Portland have the best record against teams over .500 in the league by far: 9-2. Other than Lakers it’s 8-0. Very promising.