Warriors sweep incoming if the Raptors make it through.
NBA 2018-2019
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VanVleet 3 out of 3 from the 3 pointer and 13 points...well I'd never..
He has hit his ceiling - most efficient player for the Raptors last night.
He has hit his ceiling - most efficient player for the Raptors last night.
Impressed by the Raptors, and they could rest Kawhi a lot as well. Good series this.
Well can you blame him? It's the ultimate achievement and it turned out well for him, rather to be nearly man...
Turned out well for him only if you look at rings as the main/only accomplishment an NBA player can get.
He was the main player on the team that blew a 3-1 lead against the Warriors. There's no reason to suggest that he couldn't have won a ring with the Thunder but he chickened out and opted for the easy way, which will forever tarnish his legacy unless he goes to another team this summer and wins another ring there (which is what LeBron did, against the best regular season team of all time).
he got the finals MVP though, so essentially the best player of his team
LeBron is the better player careerwise and peak wise and I doubt Durant can ever change that. Even if he wins the title with the Knicks, which I highly doubt, he won't leapfrog him. The only way I can see for him to enhance his stature is stay at GSW, or go to another top team (Bucks, Houston) and keep racking up rings.
Wasn't necessarily comparing him to LeBron as I agree that he'll never be regarded higher than him, which is no shame because LeBron is a shoe-in for top 5 all-time imo. Durant will always have it hanging over his head that he joined the Warriors, people will keep using it as a stick to beat him with if a "top 10 of all-time" debate comes up or anything like that.he got the finals MVP though, so essentially the best player of his team
LeBron is the better player careerwise and peak wise and I doubt Durant can ever change that. Even if he wins the title with the Knicks, which I highly doubt, he won't leapfrog him. The only way I can see for him to enhance his stature is stay at GSW, or go to another top team (Bucks, Houston) and keep racking up rings.
If he stays with the Warriors and ends up with something like 5-6 rings, 2 finals MVPs, a regular season MVP, a lot of All-NBA and All-Star selections and stuff, he'll have a very decorated career but it will always come with a caveat for me. Although that doesn't change that he's a great player and one of the best in the NBA for more than a decade.
Or he chose to go to a better workplace, with better colleagues, in a better city. I think legacy means more to fans than most players. They're just people making choices for themselves, trying to live their lives as best as they can, just like the rest of us.
Not to get too philosophical but it genuinely feels like some of you see these guys as virtual characters that exist and make decisions for your entertainment.
This is not directed at you, necessarily, you may just be talking about his career in a vacuum. Some here take it way too personally though, I think.
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First sentence is true, but what's your point? We are talking about legacies, not whether his choice suited his life.
I think some people are making judgement about a man's personal character and qualities (mostly negative) based on that decision. Calling him a bitch, a coward etc., when "bravery" has nothing to do with it. It bothers me a bit. That's my point, I guess.
Fair, but I think fans of the game are entitled to jeer him after he essentially ruined the competitive balance of the game.
Think you are partly right. The idea of going to the team which plays team basketball, better city, family agreeing, etc... all played some part like always. But then again there were 28 other teams to chose from, so we can all safely assume what was by far the main motive behind it. As for legacy part I think you are wrong there, fans love to argue about it, listen to debates, but like in life, in the end, you want to leave best you can behind and the manner in which you have done it is also very important to almost every player (except Kyrie as even Kyrie probably don't know what is inside his head). All great players deeply care about their reputation, rings and ranking which is one of their main driving forces.
Now am getting too philosophical. I don't even dislike Durant as a player. Just don't like the move and what he made to the league as a consequence of that. In such competitive sport it was simply unprecedented and people are rightly pointing at that when they talk about him and his legacy at this point in time. Most of all, from my personal point of view I really, really like Golden State without him. They are so much more fun to watch, so I hope he will leave. That along with having 6 or 7 title contenders hopefully.
I would have gone to Warriors too if I was KD. I find the legacy stuff pretty lame and almost childish. Go get your rings and retire happy. Fans won’t give a feck after a time period.
I would also love if Magic and Bird paired up! Feck the competition.
You just have to look at this thread every season to see how dissatisfied NBA fans are with the current balance of power in the NBA. The last 2 Finals have been 4-0 and 4-1 and totally non-competitive, and it will be no different if Toronto makes it to the Finals this year.
Dynasties have always existed to be fair. Lakers went 12-3 in the finals for their threepeat.
They would've had a dynasty with or without Durant though. I quite liked the Warriors in the beginning because they built their team the right way, now it's just boring and waiting for them to eventually break up. I don't fault them for signing him of course, they would've been mad not to. But Durant fecked the league a bit for me by doing what he did.
Personally I don't blame him, I blame LeBron and Wade for setting the precedent.
Yeah but i'm jinxing on purpose, so it's working fine
Btw, it's clear that KD cares a great deal about his legacy. And honestly, the last two finals were closer than 8-1. Dubs won both game 3s entirely thanks to KD. They could have lost game 1 last year if JR didn't forget the score
Basically, i disagree that the dubs would have been a dynasty without KD. Maybe they would have anyways, but anyone who watched the playoffs the last 2 years could see KD's massive impact on the warriors success
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Good man! Keep it upYeah but i'm jinxing on purpose, so it's working fine
Didn't work in GS-Portland series thoughGood man! Keep it up
Anyways...after these two games, i am now convinced the raptors role players have finally arrived and the raptors will win this in 6
"Multiple sources" vs Multiple burner accounts. Really struggling on who to believe on this one.
who was recording this and why
He's probably recording himself shooting.
They’ll get over it. I wasn't satisfied during the Lakers 3peat but it means nothing now which was my point originally about so called legacy. The future won’t be dissecting KD’s decision to join the Warriors. They’ll just look at his rings.
All this asterix stuff was mentioned when Lebron won his first ring. (iirc) it was after a 66 game season. No one cares now, they just know he has 3 rings.
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Nah definitely don’t agree with that, of course people care about that and know that he went to the Heat to get his first 2. Would’ve been a lot more accomplished if he had won all 3 in Cleveland or without one, maybe 2 other HOF’ers.
People are still arguing that Kobe won 3 of his 5 rings on the back of Shaq’s dominance 20 years later.
Durant is unlikely to be ready for NBA Finals first games. This is a huge opportunity for the Bucks, they must seize it. Bricking the game tonight, so excited.
All NBA teams are out:
1st team:
Curry
Harden
George
Antetokounmpo
Jokic
2nd team:
Lillard
Irving
Durant
Leonard (Kawhi not Meyers)
Embiid
3rd team:
Westbrook
Walker
Griffin
James
Gobert
1st team:
Curry
Harden
George
Antetokounmpo
Jokic
2nd team:
Lillard
Irving
Durant
Leonard (Kawhi not Meyers)
Embiid
3rd team:
Westbrook
Walker
Griffin
James
Gobert
Thanks for the clarification, had me confused
hell yeah deserving for b lake
Let's go Raptors.
I'm pretty sure I am rooting for toronto because I want both teams to keep their star and I think that's the best way. But I'll be happy either way.
I will never get over the shape of Danny green's head. That's the Eboue promise and you can take it to the bank.
Leonard
Kawai on fire.
I just can't see either team pose much of a problem for the Warriors with or without Durant. Neither of them have the offense.
Marc Gasol is afraid to shoot a three