Teared up on this.
NBA 2016-17
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Teared up on this.
Just got some tickets to Raptors 2nd round, home game 3 (vs probably Cavs). Will it get that far? 
Just got some tickets to Raptors 2nd round, home game 3 (vs probably Cavs). Will it get that far?
It did last year. And with Kyrie and Love not doing so well this post season, there is a good chance that Cleveland may not be able to close this out in 5 games.
You can scratch that probably, it'll definitely be the Cavs, they're already qualified. As for the Raptors it looks quite likely, they have the better roster and are up 3-2 with home court advantage.Just got some tickets to Raptors 2nd round, home game 3 (vs probably Cavs). Will it get that far?
Edit: Or did you mean the 3rd game at home, which would be game 6?
Ah yes, just seen Cavs have done it.
Yep I meant Home game 3 (so probably game 6).
edit: sorry just re-read, yeah am assuming they beat the Bucks.
phew, good to know!
This OKC roster is just so fundamentally broken. Presti really has a mess to sort out. I guess to still finish #6 seed after losing a top 3 player is a good achievement though. But you can see how limited the team is after being built for Durant and Westbrook. Without KD the role-players have to do more and have less space to work with which really hurts them. When your 2nd and 3rd best offensive weapons can't get on the floor (Kanter) or are garbage (Oladipo) it is going to be incredibly tough too.
Hopefully I'll get to celebrate an MVP at least. Also, I am a little concerned about Houston now. Harden is struggling from the field and their 3 point game has reduced a lot. I can't tell if that was OKC's defense or just them struggling. They will have to improve against the Spurs (probably) though.
EDIT - stat from Twitter: Thunder outscored the Rockets in the series by 4.9 points per 100 possessions w Westbrook on the floor. They were a -51.3 per 100 w him off. Take that for data.
Hopefully I'll get to celebrate an MVP at least. Also, I am a little concerned about Houston now. Harden is struggling from the field and their 3 point game has reduced a lot. I can't tell if that was OKC's defense or just them struggling. They will have to improve against the Spurs (probably) though.
EDIT - stat from Twitter: Thunder outscored the Rockets in the series by 4.9 points per 100 possessions w Westbrook on the floor. They were a -51.3 per 100 w him off. Take that for data.
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Based on the 22 shots he took in his 20 year career?
It's like criticizing Steph Curry for not having a great low post game.
Harden going 2-13 from the arc and Houston overall 6-37 (a shocking 16%) from 3 point shots is definitely a cause for concern as that is something that they need have going really well if they are to stand any chance to go deep into this postseason. I mean, if OKC is outplaying you with 3 point shooting then there's something really wrong haha. I was hopeful of them outscoring their playoff opponents earlier which was largely dependent on their shooting but play like this and those veterans in San Antonio would dispatch them without breaking a sweat.
The great thing about Westbrook he consistently satisfies his fans and detractors.
Well said.Great game by Chris Paul wasted as Clippers fall to Jazz. Jazz leading 3-2 now. The 4th quarter was great but the Jazz as a team overall is just better. Think they will win the series 4-3 .
Sad ending for Westbrook's season but it's predicted anyway. OKC got a horrible coach and a horrible roster who reached the playoffs thanks to Russel's efforts only. Whenever he leaves the court they appears clueless and unable to even defend a lead. Bad, bad team and Russel doing all these miraculous numbers with them proves he really and truly deserves the MVP.
Sad ending for Westbrook's season but it's predicted anyway. OKC got a horrible coach and a horrible roster who reached the playoffs thanks to Russel's efforts only. Whenever he leaves the court they appears clueless and unable to even defend a lead. Bad, bad team and Russel doing all these miraculous numbers with them proves he really and truly deserves the MVP.
Thanks. Just look at this
These numbers effectively make both sides of the argument for you.
Still averaging triple double. Triple Doubles for life.
Hard fought win for Utah which puts them in great position, 3-2 and back at home for Game 6. They have to be able to close it here. I like this team, very disciplined and defensively sound with everyone contributing a lot. They don't really have a superstar but have two stars in Gobert and Hayward and the rest of the team consists of very good players, also they have a lot of depth.
How many shots did he make in the entire series? Even though it only lasted 5 games it must have been close to 200.
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6-23 in Game 1
17-43 in Game 2
11-24 in Game 3
10-28 in Game 4
15-34 in Game 5
49-152 in the series.
*59-152
I'm happy this series is over, just give him two MVP and we'd finally be done with this annoying debate. If they don't give it to Westbrook we'll have the same discussion next year again, not really thrilled about that prospect.
In fairness, they got a title out of Walton and kudos to Z-Bo for punching the rapist
Paul is incredible, just too bad he is a whiney fecker. Spurs bound?
Think so myself. This was probably the last straw.
Clippers are apparently convinced that he stays. I am pretty sure he should not stay, he will have offers from all over the league and honestly, he's not winning anything with Clippers.
He should try going East. Not sure where.
Supposedly as president of the P.A. he put in a rule which would give him a massive contract for staying with the Clippers, but he has never struck me as someone who chases the money. We will see. I agree regarding moving to the East, but realistically which challenger needs him there? Cavs, Celtics, Wiz and Raptors all have their PG. Bucks? I just don't see it.
Nah it has to be Spurs.
This, in a nutshell. I've vacillated back and forth all season on whether he deserves it or not but either way it's a really pointless debate about a really pointless player. Just give him the damn thing and move on. Also please God let's consign the most useless statistic in basketball history to the sporting scrapheap - the triple double. Wtf - when your usage rate is higher than your shooting percentage and people are patting you on the back, something's wrong.
Seems you really hate him
He may be pointless for you or us but for his team he isn't. without him OKC wouldn't have even reached the playoffs. Yea he's selfish and is searching for his numbers and triple doubles but remove him from OKC and tell me what their rank will be in West conf. ? He single handedly made them reach the playoffs. One look at his teammates when he isn't on the court and you see how terrible and clueless they are with the ball. They can't do anything without him, so he's not a pointless player IMO from his team point of view.
I don't actually. I'm just tired of the same back and forth debate as to whether he deserves the MVP or not. Like @Kasper said, just give it to him so we don't have to do this again. The sum total of his season is that he's taken a mediocre team to one playoff win and beaten a 60 year old record that the holder of said record didn't realize what he'd accomplished until 15 years later when the NBA went back and started adding up totals. Back in Oscar's day it was just wins and losses that counted. These days unfortunately, "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game."
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Why wouldn't we have to do this again? He will be chasing the same award next season as well, in the exact same manner, being Mr Triple Double.
I'm hoping (really, really, really hoping) that a big part of wanting to give Russ the MVP is that he's done something that hasn't been done in 60 odd years. If he does it again next year, I'm hoping (really, really, really hoping) that it will be looked at as kind of old news - especially when his team continues to win less than 50 games.
OKC will win more next year I reckon, they will be able to sort out some shooting in the off-season, and that will help Russ big time.
I'd be amazed (well, really surprised anyway) if any top players want to go anywhere near Oklahoma City in the near future as long as Westbrook is doing his thing. That locker room, from the outside looking in, appears to be one of the most dysfunctional out there.
Last time I looked the Dubs had won 207 games over the last 3 years including one Championship and on the particular night you refer to Curry scored 37 points on 60% shooting (in a game which they won), far superior to Westbrook's recent efforts.
It was all just "Stephortless."
It was all just "Stephortless."
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Westbrook won't be averaging a triple double next season. This season was his year to do it and win the MVP. Durant left, the Thunder needed something to feel good about, and they weren't getting near the title. All these things were the perfect storm for Russ. It's an awesome achievement, despite what the naysayers say. He kept the Thunder relevant. He kept the Thunder winning. In a year when Kevin freakin' Durant joined a 73 win team, Russell Westbrook was the story of the regular season. He is so, so special to all those who live in Oklahoma and their fans. Durant leaving literally crushed the city and the fanbase. Destroyed them. Westbrook gave them a reason to hold their head-up.
The locker room is definitely not dysfuntional either. The team is, yes. But as a lockeroom they are very much together.
The locker room is definitely not dysfuntional either. The team is, yes. But as a lockeroom they are very much together.
Last time I looked the Dubs had won 207 games over the last 3 years including one Championship and on the particular night you refer to Curry scored 37 points on 60% shooting (in a game which they won), far superior to Westbrook's recent efforts.
It was all just "Stephortless."
If only wins and losses matter than curry's particular performance shouldn't be praised as per your criteria, its a bit weird to cherry pick and celebrate some records while ignoring the others.
It was great performance in a WIN. I can't see what's so odd about celebrating that. The fact that Foxsports chose to point out that that particular achievement had only been done once before in 30 odd years was just "grist for the mill" as far as I was concerned. I used it to illustrate that he had played really well. It was his overall "Stephortless" performance that mattered to me.
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What gives you the impression they are dysfunctional? Aside from KD leaving to go chase rings.
Is this actually true?!
I know he had smashed Kobe's record for usage rate in a season.
It was for the Houston series. It was 42.5% vs 41.7% for regular season - so very close.Is this actually true?!
I know he had smashed Kobe's record for usage rate in a season.