NBA 2016-17

Mr Triple Double got another triple double. 27 points on 8-23 shooting, 15 rebounds, 13 assists.

How the feck did we lose to Hornets by 22. Lottery is the way to go now.
 
Mr Triple Double got another triple double. 27 points on 8-23 shooting, 15 rebounds, 13 assists.

How the feck did we lose to Hornets by 22. Lottery is the way to go now.
Completely lost his head after that travel call which is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen on court. :lol:
 
He actually had a quadruple double. Also 10 turnovers.
 
76 are ballin. 7-3 in the last 10 games and with Embiid on the floor they're a 56-win team (going by point differential). Won 7 of last 9.
 
Not a bad result considering Adams didn't play. Really wish the teams were more even. A Westbrook/KD duel on a more level playing field would be awesome to watch. As a Thunder fan now it's kind of hard to watch because no matter what Russ does it's all for nothing.
 
Just wait two more years. That team is going places. Just need a good facilitator to go with their lottery picks. The Process is legit.
 
Just wait two more years. That team is going places. Just need a good facilitator to go with their lottery picks. The Process is legit.
They'll get a point guard now, plenty to choose from, and could get a good player with Lakers pick too (it will go to them IMO as I don't believe Lakers will be top 3). They'd do well to trade Okafor for someone who can shoot now too.
 
Completely lost his head after that travel call which is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen on court. :lol:
This has got "Shaqtin" written all over it. The refs did try to bail him out though. One step - no call, two steps - no call, three steps - no call. At this point other players start to notice that it was egregious (even for the NBA) and start to point and then finally the refs call it. I don't know what happened to be honest. It was almost like his brain shut down for a few seconds. It was funny as hell though.

On another subject, props to Russ for his reaction to the flagrant foul. He stayed down for a few seconds to collect himself and then jumped up like the energizer bunny. If that had been Bron Bron he'd have still been down on the floor.
 
Mr Triple Double got another triple double. 27 points on 8-23 shooting, 15 rebounds, 13 assists.

How the feck did we lose to Hornets by 22. Lottery is the way to go now.

He actually had a quadruple double. Also 10 turnovers.
And that is why I cannot take seriously people who say that Westbrook should get MVP (or go close to it).

All of Harden, Durant, LeBron and Kawhi would be much more deserving winners.
 
The refs tried to bail him out though. One step - no call, two steps - no call, three steps - no call. At this point other players start to notice that it was egregious (even for the NBA) and start to point and then finally the refs call it. I don't know what happened to be honest. It was almost like his brain shut down for a few seconds. It was funny as hell though.
I still can't stop laughing at that, I don't think I've ever seen that happen before. Took him 5 or 6 steps before he was called, I guess it took a few seconds for everyone to register what was going on, no one would have ever imagine someone doing something like that haha.

Think Donovan got into his head a bit too much before the quarter started. Following that call he had two or three pathetic passes where the ball went straight to a GSW player and he was not playing like himself at that point. You don't do that with Russ!
 
But anyway, we should be talking about Durant after that game, not Russ.

What an absolutely brilliant performance, when he's playing like that there's nothing you can do about it. Neither James nor Leonard will be able to slow him down if he plays with that intensity and focus in the playoffs. He came to this team to win rings and I think we will see a Durant this season that we have never seen before, come playoffs. He's due a massive playoffs performance and this is his year for me.
 
How the feck did we lose to Hornets by 22. Lottery is the way to go now.
I watched some of that game and at the end of the third quarter it looked like it was going to be an interesting climax to the game. However, in the fourth if the Blazers had been in a boat in the middle of the ocean and started trying to toss balls over the side, I'm not sure they could have hit water.
 
And that is why I cannot take seriously people who say that Westbrook should get MVP (or go close to it).

All of Harden, Durant, LeBron and Kawhi would be much more deserving winners.
But trible doubles.
 
I watched some of that game and at the end of the third quarter it looked like it was going to be an interesting climax to the game. However, in the fourth if the Blazers had been in a boat in the middle of the ocean and started trying to toss balls over the side, I'm not sure they could have hit water.

We are absolutely terrible right now. I hope we don't make the playoffs and get into lottery, there'll be shitloads of guards in there which we don't need but Harry Giles is dropping below 10th in some mock drafts because of his injury issues. I'd love him here at any cost, Embiid was also injured at the time of draft and look at him now.
 
Just looked at Embiid's highlights from the beating of Raptors. God, he's one entertaining fecker. I love his reactions, he just seems to love playing so much, always smiling, asking the crowd to stand up and cheer, awesome character. Hope he makes the All-Star game.
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Yeah, that's what it will probably be. Embiid and Love are ahead of Butler in the fan vote but I think the media / players will give him the edge, as they should. The only other question mark is Westbrook vs Harden / Curry but I don't think he'll start (although he deserves to). Rest is pretty clear, I think.
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis

That West team is :drool:

But I do enjoy watching the Greek Freak, and Jimmy Buckets.
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis

Love or Embiid instead of Butler, agree with the other four. Butler is better than them, but the team becomes very short and unbalanced with him on the team (unless Giannis starts as a center, that would be fun). So, mine would be:

Team West:

PG - Curry
SG - Harden
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: Davis


Team East:

PG: Irving
SG: DeRozan
SF: Giannis
PF: James
C: Embiid/Love
 
Yeah, that's what it will probably be. Embiid and Love are ahead of Butler in the fan vote but I think the media / players will give him the edge, as they should. The only other question mark is Westbrook vs Harden / Curry but I don't think he'll start (although he deserves to). Rest is pretty clear, I think.
He doesn't. Both Curry and Harden are better and playing better. Just that they don't shoot 73 times per match, aren't the only players on their teams who have the right to keep the ball, and the players on their team don't stop making rebounds in order to give numbers to Westbrook.
 
He doesn't. Both Curry and Harden are better and playing better. Just that they don't shoot 73 times per match, aren't the only players on their teams who have the right to keep the ball, and the players on their team don't stop making rebounds in order to give numbers to Westbrook.
I don't think Curry has been playing better. Maybe in the last month but not over the course of the season. I agree with the criticism of Westbrook, I don't think he's the best player or an MVP and I know his triple doubles have an asteriks on them. That doesn't mean that he hasn't had a great season though. He's played very good since October, unlike Steph.
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
These are the second voting results:

Eastern Conference
Frontcourt
1 LeBron James (CLE) 1,066,147
2 Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 963,110
3 Kevin Love (CLE) 473,328
4 Joel Embiid (PHI) 457,300
5 Jimmy Butler (CHI) 400,448
6 Carmelo Anthony (NY) 327,716
7 Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 324,106
8 Paul George (IND) 249,484
9 Jabari Parker (MIL) 120,022
10 Tristan Thompson (CLE) 114,759

Guards
1 Kyrie Irving (CLE) 971,362
2 Dwyane Wade (CHI) 514,866
3 DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 453,538
4 Isaiah Thomas (BOS) 401,671
5 Kyle Lowry (TOR) 256,668
6 Derrick Rose (NY) 223,804
7 John Wall (WAS) 173,148
8 Jeremy Lin (BKN) 109,088
9 Kemba Walker (CHA) 105,637
10 Avery Bradley (BOS) 64,157

Western Conference
Frontcourt
1 Kevin Durant (GS) 987,479
2 Zaza Pachulia (GS) 823,376
3 Kawhi Leonard (SA) 630,766
4 Anthony Davis (NO) 567,201
5 Draymond Green (GS) 464,319
6 DeMarcus Cousins (SAC) 379,225
7 Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 223,979
8 LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 192,784
9 Blake Griffin (LAC) 172,393
10 Marc Gasol (MEM) 172,146

Guards
1 Stephen Curry (GS) 990,390
2 James Harden (HOU) 961,685
3 Russell Westbrook (OKC) 899,024
4 Klay Thompson (GS) 555,430
5 Chris Paul (LAC) 379,076
6 Damian Lillard (POR) 208,171
7 Eric Gordon (HOU) 191,407
8 Andre Iguodala (GS) 130,224
9 Man Utd Ginobili (SA) 122,333
10 Zach LaVine (MIN) 94,867

Zaza still second on the West frontcourt. :annoyed:
 
These are the second voting results:

Eastern Conference
Frontcourt
1 LeBron James (CLE) 1,066,147
2 Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 963,110
3 Kevin Love (CLE) 473,328
4 Joel Embiid (PHI) 457,300
5 Jimmy Butler (CHI) 400,448
6 Carmelo Anthony (NY) 327,716
7 Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 324,106
8 Paul George (IND) 249,484
9 Jabari Parker (MIL) 120,022
10 Tristan Thompson (CLE) 114,759

Guards
1 Kyrie Irving (CLE) 971,362
2 Dwyane Wade (CHI) 514,866
3 DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 453,538
4 Isaiah Thomas (BOS) 401,671
5 Kyle Lowry (TOR) 256,668
6 Derrick Rose (NY) 223,804
7 John Wall (WAS) 173,148
8 Jeremy Lin (BKN) 109,088
9 Kemba Walker (CHA) 105,637
10 Avery Bradley (BOS) 64,157

Western Conference
Frontcourt
1 Kevin Durant (GS) 987,479
2 Zaza Pachulia (GS) 823,376
3 Kawhi Leonard (SA) 630,766
4 Anthony Davis (NO) 567,201
5 Draymond Green (GS) 464,319
6 DeMarcus Cousins (SAC) 379,225
7 Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 223,979
8 LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 192,784
9 Blake Griffin (LAC) 172,393
10 Marc Gasol (MEM) 172,146

Guards
1 Stephen Curry (GS) 990,390
2 James Harden (HOU) 961,685
3 Russell Westbrook (OKC) 899,024
4 Klay Thompson (GS) 555,430
5 Chris Paul (LAC) 379,076
6 Damian Lillard (POR) 208,171
7 Eric Gordon (HOU) 191,407
8 Andre Iguodala (GS) 130,224
9 Man Utd Ginobili (SA) 122,333
10 Zach LaVine (MIN) 94,867

Zaza still second on the West frontcourt. :annoyed:
This year it's not entirely based on the fan vote though - now only 50%. Media and players each have a 25% contribution and the final result is based on an average (by rank) of the three scores.
 
I love the novelty of the all-star game. And they are trying to ruin that novelty by shoe horning people who "deserve" it in as starters.....yes, Westbrook and Harden are probably gonna be 1-2 in the MVP voting, but Currys been number 1 for 2 years in a row, why should he be demoted just because he's getting the votes and star power he's earned? Or Harden for that fact? Or well Westbrook if it came to that....but obviously it looks like Westbrook will be third, so he'll get the stories.

I also love the fun of getting randoms in now and then, run with it, don't change it. If the fans want to have fun, let them, end of. It is after all a weekend for them really. In all fairness, I don't watch them, but obviously a lot of Americans enjoy it.
 
I love the novelty of the all-star game. And they are trying to ruin that novelty by shoe horning people who "deserve" it in as starters.....yes, Westbrook and Harden are probably gonna be 1-2 in the MVP voting, but Currys been number 1 for 2 years in a row, why should he be demoted just because he's getting the votes and star power he's earned? Or Harden for that fact? Or well Westbrook if it came to that....but obviously it looks like Westbrook will be third, so he'll get the stories.

I also love the fun of getting randoms in now and then, run with it, don't change it. If the fans want to have fun, let them, end of. It is after all a weekend for them really. In all fairness, I don't watch them, but obviously a lot of Americans enjoy it.
I agree. Free Zaza! Let him play! :D
 
ASG is shit anyways, boring three point chucking festival with the occasional ally oop on the fastbreak.
Three point and dunk contest are great to watch, that's it.
 
ASG is shit anyways, boring three point chucking festival with the occasional ally oop on the fastbreak.
Three point and dunk contest are great to watch, that's it.
I'm just looking forward to see Kevin Hart and Draymond Green in the rematch.
 
Curry does not deserve to start over Westbrook. I also don't know why people are ridiculing him getting triple-doubles, do you all think that is easy to achieve or something?
 
Any thoughts on who WILL start the All Star game (as opposed to who DESERVES to).

My starting fives.

East:

Kyrie Irving
DeMar DeRozan
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
LeBron

West:

James Harden
Steph Curry
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
10/10!


ASG is shit anyways, boring three point chucking festival with the occasional ally oop on the fastbreak.
Three point and dunk contest are great to watch, that's it.
Yeah.
 
I also don't know why people are ridiculing him getting triple-doubles, do you all think that is easy to achieve or something?
I don't think people are ridiculing Russ for getting the triple doubles it's how he's going about getting them that's the problem. In an ideal world, getting a triple double just happens to come about due to playing good basket ball. However, it almost seems sometimes that Russ goes seeking the numbers first and the actual score in the game is almost secondary.
 
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No matter what people say - no way should Curry have started over Westbrook this year and I say that as a massive Curry fan.

The players and media had Curry and Westbrook deadlocked (Harden was easily in), the fan vote swung it for Curry.

Westbrook - 30.6 points, 10.4 assists, 10.6 rebounds, 1.7 steals, 5.5 turnovers (42.3% FG)
Curry - 24.6 points, 6.1 assists, 4.2 rebounds, 1.8 steals, 3 turnovers (46.5% FG)

Curry plays with Durant, Thompson and Green - the best team in the league. Westbrook plays with you know who....not to mention, this isn't a case of a guy on a losing team stuffing his stats. In the very tough West, he has the Thunder as a 7th seed atm - 2 games off 5th!
 
This isn't the All-NBA team, it's the All-Star team. Theres no such thing as a 'snub' in the all-star game. If he and Harden aren't the first team All-NBA, then people can cry snub and all that. Like if Jordan came back this year, your damn right I'd vote him in at 50+ while averaging like 12 points, because it's Jordan, but because of the fun being taken out of everything that's supposed to be fun, he'd get relegated.
 
I don't think people are ridiculing Russ for getting the triple doubles it's how he's going about getting them that's the problem. In an ideal world, getting a triple double just happens to come about due to playing good basket ball. However, it almost seems sometimes that Russ goes seeking the numbers first and the actual score in the game is almost secondary.

OKC's record when Russ gets a triple-double is something like 16-5. It's a good thing when he gets them. Disagree that he chases them too. Occasionally he will go looking for a rebound, but as I have said before that's part of the strategy. It's the best way for OKC to get their offense going.
 
No matter what people say - no way should Curry have started over Westbrook this year and I say that as a massive Curry fan.

The players and media had Curry and Westbrook deadlocked (Harden was easily in), the fan vote swung it for Curry.

Westbrook - 30.6 points, 10.4 assists, 10.6 rebounds, 1.7 steals, 5.5 turnovers (42.3% FG)
Curry - 24.6 points, 6.1 assists, 4.2 rebounds, 1.8 steals, 3 turnovers (46.5% FG)

Curry plays with Durant, Thompson and Green - the best team in the league. Westbrook plays with you know who....not to mention, this isn't a case of a guy on a losing team stuffing his stats. In the very tough West, he has the Thunder as a 7th seed atm - 2 games off 5th!
Numbers are not everything in NBA. Durant scores more points than James, is more accurate in all 2 pointers, 3 pointers and free throws, makes more rebounds and makes more blocks, but everyone who watches NBA would agree that James is the better player.

Curry has to share the ball with his teammates, and does that brilliantly, with his team being the best team in the league. Westbrook doesn't have to share the ball, and while his stats are impressive, his accuracy is not, he makes too many turnovers and is just not as good as playmaker as James, and his team is just the 7th best team in his conference. And before you say that he plays with donkeys, he played for a few years with a top 2 - top 3 player in the league, and they still weren't winning, neither he was having the impact of Curry.

On numbers alone, Westbrook wins. If you have to choose a point guard to lead your team, then you choose Curry. Of course, this is all stars and it all about entertaining, so Westbrook might be a better choice though.
 
Numbers are not everything in NBA. Durant scores more points than James, is more accurate in all 2 pointers, 3 pointers and free throws, makes more rebounds and makes more blocks, but everyone who watches NBA would agree that James is the better player.

Curry has to share the ball with his teammates, and does that brilliantly, with his team being the best team in the league. Westbrook doesn't have to share the ball, and while his stats are impressive, his accuracy is not, he makes too many turnovers and is just not as good as playmaker as James, and his team is just the 7th best team in his conference. And before you say that he plays with donkeys, he played for a few years with a top 2 - top 3 player in the league, and they still weren't winning, neither he was having the impact of Curry.

On numbers alone, Westbrook wins. If you have to choose a point guard to lead your team, then you choose Curry. Of course, this is all stars and it all about entertaining, so Westbrook might be a better choice though.

The first part: Durant is a better scorer than LeBron, so he will score more and be more efficient. The other stuff? It's irrelevant really. Everyone knows LeBron coasts through the regular season. He does what he has to do to get the Cavs to the #1 seed in the East. If he turned it up I am sure he would equal or better Durant for rebounds/blocks/steals/whatever category other than probably scoring and efficiency.

The second: Why does Westbrook not have to share the ball and Curry does? Westbrook is #2 in the league for assists? He clearly does share the ball. He's not a better playmaker than LeBron, but IMO he is just as good as Curry. He has a lot of turnovers and that's a weakness in his game, but his usage rate is so high you would naturally expect him to have more turnovers. Steph himself averages 3.0 a game. I also don't know how you can say they weren't winning. 2012 they went to the NBA finals, they had huge injury problems in most of the other seasons and still made the WCF a lot of the time. Lost to a great Spurs team in 2014 and should have beaten the Warriors last season. They were winning. Ok, they weren't fortunate enough to win a ring by playing a Cavs team without Irving and Love.

The third: Why would you choose Curry? It's easy to say that because he's been playing really well on the best team for the past two or three seasons. Depends on the style of the team. If you surround Westbrook with shooters like Houston has done with Harden then you'll have a very good team. Steph shares a lot of the playmaking duties with Draymond on his team. I'd like to see if he has the physicality to be a full-time pure PG for a full season.
 
Numbers are not everything in NBA. Durant scores more points than James, is more accurate in all 2 pointers, 3 pointers and free throws
As a scorer not only Durant is better than James, but he is one of the greatest scoring machines in the history of the NBA. There's nothing misleading about the stats there.