NBA 2016-17

A bit of everything really. Lets say team basketball?
Houston rockets, although they've been a bit shit recently, their offense directed by Harden is great.
Atlanta Hawks, a bit known as the Mini spurs.
Cleveland, reasons are obvious I think.
If you're looking for young, upcoming teams, Timberwolves, Nuggets, Philadelphia.
 
Houston rockets, although they've been a bit shit recently, their offense directed by Harden is great.
Atlanta Hawks, a bit known as the Mini spurs.
Cleveland, reasons are obvious I think.
If you're looking for young, upcoming teams, Timberwolves, Nuggets, Philadelphia.

Thanks.;)
 
Gotta love that Eastern Conference. The Cavs lose 4 of 5 and extend their lead at the top.
 
Feels a bit weird watching Cavaliers lose game after game while Philadelphia win everything.
 
A bit of everything really. Lets say team basketball?

The sixers have the future GOAT Joel Embiid and a young team.

We also have about 15 years of sucking that MIGHT just be ending.
 
The sixers have the future GOAT Joel Embiid and a young team.

We also have about 15 years of sucking that MIGHT just be ending.

Thanks, I just read an article about him and it raised a question that I have been asking myself for a while.

Is Town a center? For my untrained eyes he doesn't play like a center, he looks like a big power forward.
 
Thanks, I just read an article about him and it raised a question that I have been asking myself for a while.

Is Town a center? For my untrained eyes he doesn't play like a center, he looks like a big power forward.

The center position (as it is typically described) is going away. Hybrid PF/Cs like Towns, Embiid etc are the future
 
Thanks, I just read an article about him and it raised a question that I have been asking myself for a while.

Is Town a center? For my untrained eyes he doesn't play like a center, he looks like a big power forward.
He would have probably been a power forward if he played 10 years ago. Now, he is a center, but there is hardly much difference in the style of play from him and league's best PF, Anthony Davis.

Classic center is going away. There are still the likes of Howard, Jordan and co., but for most part, the new centers are much better all round players and can shoot from everywhere (Demarcus Cousins who is probably the best center in the world, shoots quite a lot of threes).
 
He would have probably been a power forward if he played 10 years ago. Now, he is a center, but there is hardly much difference in the style of play from him and league's best PF, Anthony Davis.

Classic center is going away. There are still the likes of Howard, Jordan and co., but for most part, the new centers are much better all round players and can shoot from everywhere (Demarcus Cousins who is probably the best center in the world, shoots quite a lot of threes).

Nah, Embiid would have been a C in any era. He has range out beyond the arc, but he's much more similar in his athletic ability and overall agility to a Hakeem than he is to some of the smaller centers in the league now. Only thing different is that yes, all these guys nowadays shoot 3s.

Basically there are two in vogue types of C's now. Those like Embiid, Towns, Porzingis, etc. that have the ability to spread the floor from beyond the arc and take advantage down low, especially against teams that try to play small. They may have the skillset of smaller players, but their size is a critical advantage. Then you have the Jordan, Howard type centers who are extremely limited, but effective in their offensive roles as strictly screen setting, rim running centers.

OT: But Harden with another 50+ point triple double tonight.
 
Harden is absolutely insane. Crazy that Westbrook might average a triple-double and not win the MVP. I'd have Harden ahead of him at the moment. The tough January schedule and now losing Kanter will hurt Westbrook's chances.
 
Bulls are absolute mess. Butler and Wade came out and criticised their young players for having no ambition after they blew a 10-point lead over Atlanta in the final 3 minutes, Rondo came to defend their young players and slagged off Butler and Wade. Butler then had 1-13, 3pts night yesterday and looked like he completely didn't care. Time to rebuild?
 
Curry, fecking hell. His 3-points shooting is as good as ever. Totally demolished Clippers.

On a side note, why Curry and Zaza don't dunk?
 
Clips had no chance anyway without CP3 and Blake just returning.
This wasn't about watching the game though. As you say, the Clippers were pretty much beaten before the tip-off. This was about watching a prime time performance. I am biased. I freely admit to being so. However, IMLTHO when Steph is on he is by far the most entertaining player in the game today and last night we all got a ringside seat.
 
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Curry, fecking hell. His 3-points shooting is as good as ever. Totally demolished Clippers.

On a side note, why Curry and Zaza don't dunk?
Don't know about Zaza, but Steph's dunk is such a pitiful effort he rarely attempts it. He almost looks like the "little engine that could" trying to get high enough to..... I'd love to say "throw it down" but let's leave it at "put it through."
 
Don't know about Zaza, but Steph's dunk is such a pitiful effort he rarely attempts it. He almost looks like the "little engine that could" trying to get high enough to..... I'd love to say "throw it down" but let's leave it at "put it through."
Which is weird, he has a decent jump. I mean, he's not going to be ever a Russell Westbrook at dunking, but he is perfectly capable of dunking and has done it is in past (I think over 20 times). But, for whatever reasons he just doesn't do it.

Zaza is even weirder, he's like 2.10 and can dunk effortlessly, but he goes always to drop the ball instead of dunking, and have seen him getting blocked on those situations, while if he went for a dunk, it would have been 2 points.
 
Talking about the MVP-elect, just saw that his 2 points shooting accuracy is the worst from all top 40 scorers in the league, and his 3 point shooting accuracy is just the 32nd from the top 40 scorers. Sure, he is averaging 31 points per match, but his shooting is fecking terrible and his team would do much better if Russ decides to take less shoots.
 
Talking about the MVP-elect, just saw that his 2 points shooting accuracy is the worst from all top 40 scorers in the league, and his 3 point shooting accuracy is just the 32nd from the top 40 scorers. Sure, he is averaging 31 points per match, but his shooting is fecking terrible and his team would do much better if Russ decides to take less shoots.

No, they wouldn't. Because who would be getting these shots? Singler? Grant? Sabonis? Roberson? No one on the team can make a shot. Yeah, sometimes Russ takes too many when he is having an off night. It's frustrating and he cops a lot of shit for it but he has no one else. The only other option is Oladipo and he is very streaky too.
 
The Warriors decision making at the end of fourth quarters is appalling. Last night another one almost got away from them. This "effort" was every bit as bad as the Memphis debacle but fortunately Evan Turner missed the last shot. I understand the concept of "no fouls" when you have a lead at the end of the game but that shouldn't mean no defense at all. At least if you put someone on the line they have to make the fouls shots. The Dubs were leading 106-99 with 37.5 seconds to go and made 7 out of 8 free throws. That meant Portland had to score 15 points in under 40 seconds to win the game and they almost did it. Someone, actually probably a series of someones, needs to be metaphorically taken out to the woodshed ASAP until their defense/decision making dramatically improves. Steve Kerr - the ball is in your court.
 
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The Warriors decision making at the end of fourth quarters is appalling. Last night another one almost got away from them. This "effort" was every bit as bad as the Memphis debacle but fortunately Evan Turner missed the last shot. I understand the concept of "no fouls" when you have a lead at the end of the game but that shouldn't mean no defense at all. At least if you put someone on the line they have to make the fouls shots. The Dubs were leading 106-99 with 37.5 seconds to go and made 7 out of 8 free throws. That meant Portland had to score 15 points in under 40 seconds to win the game and they almost did it. Someone, actually probably a series of someones, needs to be metaphorically taken out to the woodshed ASAP until their defense/decision making dramatically improves. Steve Kerr - the ball is in your court.

I had a feeling we would win last night's game and to be fair if it wasn't for abysmal officiating, we probably would have (Warriors went to line 39 times to 12 from Blazers, even though Blazers won the boards 60-32). Feeling very gutted about Turner's missed shot, he was left completely open there in the end. It was a Warriors team on back to back, missing Curry, so it wouldn't have been a full blown win but still, it'll the one that got away.
 
The league is so weird at the moment. Dallas just got back to back wins against Cleveland and San Antonio, Miami is 8-2 in their last 10 games, Minnesota and Dallas both went 7-3 and Philadelphia are borderline playoffs team.
 
Boston are second seed, and closing in on Cleveland. Didn't really see that one coming.

Exciting times for Celtics as they are bound to have a top 3 (probably even no. 1) pick in this draft and the next one without even tanking. Their rotation is crazy deep too.

With their trade assets they could push for a superstar and have a go at the title even now. Butler looks like he might be available for the right price, they could maybe price Cousins out of Sacramento (who look hopeless again) and even someone like Paul George might be obtainable. Then you have a number of expiring players who would help them short term - Millsap and Ibaka to name two. They're also interested in Vucevic who although worse than Horford, would give them another dimension.

They've always caused Warriors trouble too. They were the ones who broke their long standing home record and they almost were the ones who delivered Warriors their first loss last season (only lost marginally).
 
How is this years draft class, compared to the last few?

Very impressed by the Celtics management. Great planning for the future, and the way they've conducted trades and kept on stacking assets has been really impressive. Turning Isaiah Thomas into a proper superstar as well.

Who would be the best fit for the team, though? Cousins is a great shout, but would his probable antics mess with the organization/team? Or will he become a nicer guy with a proper organization to back him up? And is it worth trading for a superstar right now, or wait for next season (after the draft)?
 
Dion "and one" Waiters got Eastern Conference player of the week. The league better get ready, Dion is about to take over.
 
Boston are second seed, and closing in on Cleveland. Didn't really see that one coming.
If Boston wins their conference, should Thomas get MVP? Together with Durant, he is the best attacking player in the league this season.

Also, I never understood why the worst run franchise in the league traded him in the first place? Sacramento's decisions somehow are always bad.
 
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How is this years draft class, compared to the last few?

Very impressed by the Celtics management. Great planning for the future, and the way they've conducted trades and kept on stacking assets has been really impressive. Turning Isaiah Thomas into a proper superstar as well.

Who would be the best fit for the team, though? Cousins is a great shout, but would his probable antics mess with the organization/team? Or will he become a nicer guy with a proper organization to back him up? And is it worth trading for a superstar right now, or wait for next season (after the draft)?
If I was the guy who make decisions on Boston, I would have gone all in for Cousins. They need a top center, and Cousins is arguably the best in the league at that position. And Celtics have enough trading assets to be able to get him.

Not sure about the draft class but I have heard people saying that it will be a very good one. The only one I have really watched is Lonzo Ball who looks a very promising player. But I have heard that there will be other great PG in the draft.
 
LeBron went ballistic on Barkley -


LeBron James rips Charles Barkley: You're the NBA bad boy, not me

DALLAS -- After years of being fodder for Charles Barkley to comment on in his role as an analyst on TNT's "Inside the NBA," LeBron James has heard enough.

"He's a hater," James told ESPN of Barkley following the Cleveland Cavaliers' 104-97 loss to the Dallas Mavericks on Monday. "What makes what he says credible? Because he's on TV?"

James had been stewing the past couple of days after Barkley took James to task for the four-time MVP calling out the Cavs for needing to fortify the roster with another playmaker to have a realistic shot at a repeat title.

"Inappropriate. Whiny. All of the above," Barkley said of James last week. "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they have given him everything he wanted. They have the highest payroll in NBA history. He wanted J.R. Smith last summer, they paid him. He wanted [Iman] Shumpert last summer. They brought in Kyle Korver. He's the best player in the world. Does he want all of the good players? He don't want to compete? He is an amazing player. They're the defending champs."

Barkley has consistently needled James, telling HBO's Bill Simmons over the summer that James would "never" ascend to top-five status in NBA history over Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Wilt Chamberlain, and going back all the way to 2010 and James' "The Decision" television special, when Barkley told ESPN Radio 103.3 FM in Dallas/Fort Worth that it was a "punk move" for James to leave the Cavs to take up with the Miami Heat.

James initially took the high road when asked about Barkley's recent comments, saying they were "good for the ratings," while defending his competitive spirit.

But after ESPN followed up with a story asking Tristan Thompson for his thoughts on Barkley's comments, James chose to speak out again in ardent fashion.

"I'm not going to let him disrespect my legacy like that," James told ESPN. "I'm not the one who threw somebody through a window. I never spit on a kid. I never had unpaid debt in Las Vegas. I never said, 'I'm not a role model.' I never showed up to All-Star Weekend on Sunday because I was in Vegas all weekend partying.

"All I've done for my entire career is represent the NBA the right way. Fourteen years, never got in trouble. Respected the game. Print that."


James, whose friendships with Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony have also been called into question, recalled watching a 1993 NBA Finals game between Jordan's Chicago Bulls and Barkley's Phoenix Suns and being surprised what he saw on his screen.

"Go watch the '93 Finals when John Paxson hit the shot," James said. "Barkley and Jordan were laughing and joking with each other during one of the games while somebody's shooting a free throw. In the Finals. But, oh, nobody were friends back then."

Bringing up Anthony reminded James of another basketball luminary who has tweaked him this season -- New York Knicks president Phil Jackson -- and he had a story to share about Jackson as well.

"I went to see Melo at the Garden two years ago when we were in New York," James said. "They played Portland. I went up to a suite at halftime, and Phil Jackson didn't say one word to me."

This fall, Jackson brought up James unprompted in an interview with ESPN's Jackie MacMullan and described James and his close circle of business associates -- Rich Paul, Maverick Carter and Randy Mims -- as his "posse."

"I'm here to win ballgames and take care of my teammates and take care of my, what's that word, oh, my 'posse,'" James said, animatedly.

He had more words for Barkley too.

"I know he wanted to retire a long time ago, but he can't," James said. "He's stuck up on that stage every week."

James then issued a challenge, of sorts.

"And if this makes him want to talk to me, the schedule's out there," James said. "He knows every road arena I'll be in. Don't just come up to me at All-Star and shake my hand and smile."

It was James' second bout of frustration shared with the media in a week, as the Cavs finished out January going 7-8. It was the first time James has had a losing record in a calendar month with at least 10 games played since February 2006 -- his third season in the NBA -- when the Cavaliers went 6-8, according to ESPN Stats & Information.


James also spoke up about the perception he and his inner circle face as young, successful black businessmen, believing that identity being so rare in the power structure of professional sports makes him and his partners targets.

"I collect one paycheck from this," James said of his role with the Cavs. "There's the owner, Griff's [David Griffin] the GM, I'm the player. Screw Charles Barkley."

James put on his baseball cap and offered a parting thought as he prepared to leave the visitors locker room at the American Airlines Center to head to the airport for a flight back to Cleveland.

"I'm tired of biting my tongue," James said. "There's a new sheriff in town."