NBA 2015-2016

kouroux said:
Curry is like Ronaldinho now in the sense that people (like me basically) who don't watch much basketball are truly getting interested because he is just a phenomenal player. I remember at his peak, plenty of idiots were Barca fans overnight.
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I agree with the whole post, except the bolded word which I think is unnecessary. For every fan there is a reason why he became a fan of club A or B (unless he's cheering for his local team).

kouroux said:
I'm not saying I'm a fan tbh, just that I find it impressive that a person can be so dominant and entertaining at a sport. I'm talking about fans because I'm seeing a lot of "we", " Love GSW", "fan forever" from guys I know who weren't even into basketball a couple of years ago.
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And what's wrong with that? Unless they become "Love OKC, fan forever" in a couple of years, I don't see any problem with it.
 
It's not just dominance with Curry. He's just so hard not to like. Even my wife who up until recently had no interest in basketball at all will ask me "Is Steph playing tonight?" I've been watching basketball seriously for more than 30 years and I've seen most of the greats play - Kareem and Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, the "Bad Boy" Pistons through Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Kobe and then LeBron James and whoever he decided to play with. Out of all of them only Jordan made me actually want to stop what I was doing and watch until Steph came along. I'm not saying he is better than the rest but as I've said in earlier posts, if he keeps this up for 4-5 more years he will certainly be in the conversation for best (and most likable) ever.
 
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Danny1982 said:
I agree with the whole post, except the bolded word which I think is unnecessary. For every fan there is a reason why he became a fan of club A or B (unless he's cheering for his local team).


And what's wrong with that? Unless they become "Love OKC, fan forever" in a couple of years, I don't see any problem with it.
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Don't you find it weird that people who you know knew feck all about basketball not long ago, suddenly claim to be long time fans of this or that successful team and player ?
 
I hate Warrior fans. Except for the few minority who suffered during the Baron Davis/Monta Ellis days. Bunch of stuffy preppy wankers. Insufferable pricks during the Memphis series last year.
 
kouroux said:
Don't you find it weird that people who you know knew feck all about basketball not long ago, suddenly claim to be long time fans of this or that successful team and player ?
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If they lie and pretend they're long time fans, then of course that's stupid. What would also be stupid is if they switch to another team when the player moves or the team becomes less successful. Just starting to support a team or follow a sport because of a player is not stupid imo.
 
By the way, some reports are emerging that Joe Johnson is close to signing for the Heat. I know he's past it, but he can shoot 3s! (he can still do that, right? :nervous: )
 
kouroux said:
Curry is like Ronaldinho now in the sense that people (like me basically) who don't watch much basketball are truly getting interested because he is just a phenomenal player. I remember at his peak, plenty of idiots were Barca fans overnight.
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The great thing about Curry is that his talents are mostly based on his skill. His ability to shoot and his handle, which makes it much easier to relate to as a fan. He's obviously ridiculously good athlete, but his athleticism doesn't seem as unattainable as someone like a LeBron, Kobe, Jordan who are all truly freaky specimen.
 
Not too shabby that he now holds the three top spots for most three point shots made in a season, and only 10 off beating his total last year. Adding to his record of most consecutive games making a three, safe to say he's doing alright for himself.

Like Kerr said, for Curry, three point shots are like lay ups, and half court shots are like threes. Nothing he does is surprising anymore.

He has, however, ruined basketball at any gym around here. Now everyone gets the ball and sprints to the three point line to huck it up.
 
Skizzo said:
Not too shabby that he now holds the three top spots for most three point shots made, and only 10 off beating his total last year. Adding to his record of most consecutive games making a three, safe to say he's doing alright for himself.

Like Kerr said, for Curry, three point shots are like lay ups, and half court shots are like threes. Nothing he does is surprising anymore.

He has, however, ruined basketball at any gym around here. Now everyone gets the ball and sprints to the three point line to huck it up.
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That's exactly what Doc Rivers (or was it Van Gundy?) said. Basically Curry is bad for basketball (/the development of young players). Curry didn't like it, his answer was: Why? If you can shoot, then shoot, if you can't, then do what you can do.

The problem with Curry's argument though is: Not everybody is as objective in assessing himself as he's suggesting here. Somebody should introduce him to Josh Smith.
 
Danny1982 said:
I checked, he's shot 47% from 3 in January and 44% from 3 in February! Although he did have a rough start to the season...
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I'm going off his form for the past 3 years with the Nets. He's streaky as feck. Then again, he was playing for the Nets, so maybe he improves when he comes over to a stable organization.
 
adexkola said:
I'm going off his form for the past 3 years with the Nets. He's streaky as feck. Then again, he was playing for the Nets, so maybe he improves when he comes over to a stable organization.
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To be honest I would have been far more optimistic about JJ before I saw what happened to GG after joining the Heat.

The problem is, the Heat just don't have any alternatives right now. Miami's best 3-point shooter now is Deng at 35%, next is Dragic at less than 32%!
 
Skills said:
The great thing about Curry is that his talents are mostly based on his skill. His ability to shoot and his handle, which makes it much easier to relate to as a fan. He's obviously ridiculously good athlete, but his athleticism doesn't seem as unattainable as someone like a LeBron, Kobe, Jordan who are all truly freaky specimen.
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He gives a hell of a lot of hope, and opens up dreams for the vast majority of fans who love and play basketball but unfortunately arent blessed with the freakishly rare genetics to excel at basketball.

Ive played ball virtually my entire life, and stopped growing when i was probably 16, leaving me just shy of 6 ft. if curry was doing this a decade ago it would have motivated me to train a hell of a lot harder and keep with it, instead of fading away with the knowledge that unfortunately my build just isnt cut out for basketball. (obviously curry's like 6.2, and there have been plenty of short pg's in the nba, but he's so absurdly good his skillset would be applicable even if he was 6 ft or 5.11)

Id agree to an extent that he is encouraging bad core habits, as as someone mentioned earlier, everyone suddenly thinks they should be jacking 3's all game instead of putting in work on fundamentals and high percentage plays.
 
Danny1982 said:
That's exactly what Doc Rivers (or was it Van Gundy?) said. Basically Curry is bad for basketball (/the development of young players). Curry didn't like it, his answer was: Why? If you can shoot, then shoot, if you can't, then do what you can do.

The problem with Curry's argument though is: Not everybody is as objective in assessing himself as he's suggesting here. Somebody should introduce him to Josh Smith.
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It was actually Mark Jackson (the Warriors ex-coach) who said it and he took quite a bit of abuse for making the statement (there may have been some sour grapes there as well). The other side of the coin is as Cantona points out, he is encouraging an awful lot of kids who would have considered themselves undersized to play the game.
Oo0AahCantona said:
He gives a hell of a lot of hope, and opens up dreams for the vast majority of fans who love and play basketball but unfortunately arent blessed with the freakishly rare genetics to excel at basketball.
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Thing about Curry is that, in addition to being an excellent shooter (which isn't that uncommon), he has the ability to dribble and create his own shot, brilliantly. Hence he CANNOT be left open. The permutation of opportunities that his skillset provides his team's offense is overwhelming for the majority of defenses in today's NBA.

So for kids jacking it up as soon as they cross the halfway line, nah son. You need a lot more to be Steph Curry.
 
adexkola said:
Thing about Curry is that, in addition to being an excellent shooter (which isn't that uncommon), he has the ability to dribble and create his own shot, brilliantly. Hence he CANNOT be left open. The permutation of opportunities that his skillset provides his team's offense is overwhelming for the majority of defenses in today's NBA.
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charlton66 said:
Where Curry excels and what a lot of people miss is his extremely fast hands and superb body control. He is by far the best dribbler in the game today and this along with his amazing shooting ability means that not only is he accurate but he is able to create the space between himself and his opponent to get his shot off in the first place. Curry is a freak, but he is by far the most entertaining freak there has been in the game since Jordan.
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From a few days ago. Great minds and all that.
 
Not sure I could see them beating the Cavs in a best of 7 without home court. They're a good team though and I hope they do challenge Cleveland.
 
charlton66 said:
It was actually Mark Jackson (the Warriors ex-coach) who said it and he took quite a bit of abuse for making the statement (there may have been some sour grapes there as well). The other side of the coin is as Cantona points out, he is encouraging an awful lot of kids who would have considered themselves undersized to play the game.
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Right. Yeah there are two sides to this argument, and I can see where both are coming from.

ZDwyr said:
Not sure I could see them beating the Cavs in a best of 7 without home court. They're a good team though and I hope they do challenge Cleveland.
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They'd go out 4-0 or 4-1 at best against Cleveland in the finals. The playoffs are different, and Cleveland have the ability to raise their level and intensity in the play-offs, Toronto are already playing at their max ability and intensity because the regular season means much more to them than Cleveland.
 
Danny1982 said:
Right. Yeah there are two sides to this argument, and I can see where both are coming from.


They'd go out 4-0 or 4-1 at best against Cleveland in the finals. The playoffs are different, and Cleveland have the ability to raise their level and intensity in the play-offs, Toronto are already playing at their max ability and intensity because the regular season means much more to them than Cleveland.
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Reminds me of the Bulls against the Heat, a few years ago. Maybe... Time will tell.
 
I can't stand this Thunder team any more. I need to take a decent break from basketball. As great as Curry and that final shot was this should have been over in regulation. Just too many stupid decisions in key moments. Will go down as the biggest 'what if' team in a long time. All talent, no brains.
 
Game of the season!!! And what can we say about Curry?!! he is so fecking good!
 
Steph Curry is just like playing an NBA game with the sliders on 100 for accurate shooting.....it's not really a good game that way. It's odd as hell that it's now actually legit.

If they and they probably will do, go sub 10 losses then go through the Rockets/OKC/Spurs and then the Cavs to win it all. Man, it'd be insane. But the Cavs are gonna be fresh as hell, LeBron is barely trying, and should have a supporting cast this year, and won't have to really try to get to them either.

I also still like the Spurs, why does the regular season have to be so long and pointless.
 
Never thought I'd ever see a player that makes a video game actually feel unrealistic, incredible stuff from an incredible player. Kobe said it best:

 
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