Nba 2011-2012

RDCR07 said:
Who is left for the Knicks as a PG who is a terrific defender? The good defensive ones are settled already. Even Lin is not good defensively.
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Lin is simply a marketing tool at the moment, he's the Tebow of the league, the feel good story of the month/half-season. There's rumors the Rockets have offered him a ridiculous amount of money, but they're probably hoping to push a few millions shirts in Asia.

uae said:
Knicks were 5th best for defensive efficiency last year. Chandler has improved them immensely in that regard
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Defensively 11th in PPG, 10th in FG%, 23rd in 3FG%, 16th in points-per-shot, while not the worst it certainly won't improve with a PG like Nash being destroyed by opposing guards. Not sure how all those numbers translate to 5th in some other category, unless rebounding (18th, and opponents 0.1 more per game (16th differential)), blocks (26th), and steals (Own-2nd, Opp-24th) enter the statistic. Chandler certainly helped I would think but having guys like Anthony and Stoudemire that are absolutely disinterested in defense, adding another isn't the best move IMO.
 
MrMarcello said:
Hogwash. Hindsight is always 20/20. Chandler at $15m per season is vastly overpaid. How far did the Knicks go in 2011/12?

Cuban also didn't anticipate Nets mafia owner acquiring an $89m contract with four years remaining (voted one of the worst ever in league history), giving Wallace $40m over four years, and possibly Howard, which ultimately convinced Williams to stick around. Plus Williams gets $98m over five years, more than Dallas could offer ($75m over four years). And who knows what other bungs/perks that mafia guy is offering to these players.

There are quality PGs still available and Cuban can go for Paul next season as well. It's not like he can't find other players. Dallas is a premier destination for plenty of players so one potentially bad season won't push the Mavericks to the status of Sacramento, Milwaukee, et al. Cuban is a great owner, players around the league love the guy, and he pays very well - they won't struggle to find quality players.

Terry is past his best days and is at best a backup/role player. He'll do well with Boston though.

Your post is a typical knee-jerk reaction. They didn't sign the top FA on the market and that means his prior moves are now ridiculous? Not a chance.
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I don't know if I'm being knee jerk, that was my initial response when Chandler was let go, but it's still my opinion after seeing things play out. The Mavs went from the best team in the world to outiside the top 4 as soon as he left.

Mavs 10-11: 57-25 [.695, tied for 4th in league with Lakers]
Mavs 11-12: 36-30 [.545, would come to 45-37, tied for 13th with Knicks]

Knicks 10-11: 42-40 [.512, 15th]
Knicks: 11-12: 36-30 [.545, would come to 45-37, tied for 13th with Mavs]

Chandler was really the only loss from the Championship team, Caron Butler was also lost, but he was injured for their playoff run, and DeShawn Stevenson, while tenacious defensively, didn't noticeably improve the Nets. Though losing those two certainly contributed to the worse season, I'd argue the main difference was losing Chandler. But that's just my opinion, I'd love to know how you see it differently.

There are only so many top players, and quite a few teams trying so sign them. The Lakers, Knicks and Nets seem just as willing to spend as the Mavs, and Dallas as a city can't compete with LA or NYC, I'm worried about the Mavs being able to sign the two big stars they're keeping their cap space for. I have family in Dallas so they've always had my support, I don't want to see them lose their status, I'm not reveling in their decline.

Most seem to think the Grizz will have to let one of Gasol, Randolph or Gay go, whichever it is would make a great addition to the Mavs.
 
Lakers have acquired Steve Nash. We will not win the title next year.

"The Suns will likely receive the $8.9 traded-player exception that the Lakers acquired when they traded Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks as well as the Lakers’ first-round picks in 2013 and 2015 and second-round picks in 2013 and 2014."
 
For those like me wondering why the Lakers don't just sign him as a free agent, here's the answer:

"The Lakers, with a payroll already projected in excess of $83 million next season, would only be able to offer Nash an exception starting at $3.09 million for next season. It’s unlikely Nash would take that, so a sign-and-trade deal would be a more realistic possibility."
 
Delighted with that. He may be old but he's still one of the best PGs in the league and it's an upgrade on what we had in recent years. Now for Howard...

Edit: although I think the trade is a good one, it's still important we get some young talent into the rotation so we can match the likes of Miami and OKC.
 
If we were to trade Bynum and someone else, would that free some cap space to get Howard even though we are well above the cap limit?
 
Will be an old but interesting back-court tandem in LA next year.

Rockets have offered Lin a contract.

Gordon has become another FA to benefit from the max contract deals. Amazing how being a decent starter can earn one $58m over four years. What happens if the Hornets match - does he go back on his, "Phoenix... this is where my heart is?" LOL. Or does NOH trade him to Phoenix?
 
RDCR07 said:
If we were to trade Bynum and someone else, would that free some cap space to get Howard even though we are well above the cap limit?
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But he has stated he doesn't want to go to LA, so why consider a trade? What if he agrees to a trade but bolts after one season via free agency - are you fine with that?
 
MrMarcello said:
But he has stated he doesn't want to go to LA, so why consider a trade? What if he agrees to a trade but bolts after one season via free agency - are you fine with that?
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You think if he comes here and he is playing alongside Kobe, Gasol, and Nash that he will want to leave? We will be title contenders and only the Heat could potentially stop us with that lineup.
 
MrMarcello said:
But he has stated he doesn't want to go to LA, so why consider a trade? What if he agrees to a trade but bolts after one season via free agency - are you fine with that?
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I wouldn't believe anything Howard says. I think if he was to come to LA he would be there for the long haul and the Lakers would only make a trade if they were certain he would commit long term. I actually think the Nash deal increases our chances if getting Howard.
 
RDCR07 said:
You think if he comes here and he is playing alongside Kobe, Gasol, and Nash that he will want to leave? We will be title contenders and only the Heat could potentially stop us with that lineup.
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Would probably have to part with Gasol to make the cap numbers/rules work, but he's stated this constant desire to be in Brooklyn. He also seems to have a desire to be "the man" which won't be the case with Kobe around. I would love to see him with the Lakers but I have my doubts a trade will occur. I believe he's going to push for the Brooklyn trade offer.
 
The Suns have signed Goran Dragic, who was fantastic at the end of the season starting in place of the injured Lowry, averaging 18.0 pts, 8.4 ast, 1.8 st, 3.4 re, .490% shooting [quite good for a guard], 38% from 3 and 84% from the line as a starter.

Compare that to Nash who averaged 12.5 pts, 10.7 ast, 0.6 st, 3.0 re, .532% shooting [fantastic for a guard], 39% from 3 and 89% from the line.

Dragic will make about 8.5 mil a year, Nash will get 8.3 mil from the Lakers.

Not saying that Dragic was better last year than Nash, but in 2 years you'd rather have Dragic than Nash, and Dragic is also a true passing PG, my favorite type of player.

But Kobe only has 2-3 years left where he can hope to win a title, so it short term thinking till he's gone.
 
The proposed trade would be Bynum/Artest for Howard. Magic want any deal to include Bynum and this is their preferred deal apparently across the league. However, I guess it comes down to Howard and whether he would re-sign with the Lakers.
 
Twitter reckons it's Bynum + Artest for Howard providing Dwight agrees to an extension.

Would Artest being included in any Howard deal be for salary cap reasons?
 
I can't imagine Orlando want Artest. Must be about making the number work, if there's any truth to it.

Hard to believe Howard is willing to sign an extension with the Lakers after all his talk.
 
68-99-08 said:
The proposed trade would be Bynum/Artest for Howard. Magic want any deal to include Bynum and this is their preferred deal apparently across the league. However, I guess it comes down to Howard and whether he would re-sign with the Lakers.
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From what I have heard from various analysts on ESPN, the Magic are going to want to dump Turkoglu and the $23.6m owed him over the next two years in any Howard trade, which means either the acquiring club must have the cap room/willingness to possibly exceed cap, or get a third club involved.

ha_rooney said:
Twitter reckons it's Bynum + Artest for Howard providing Dwight agrees to an extension.

Would Artest being included in any Howard deal be for salary cap reasons?
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Bynum will earn $16.1m next season, Artest $7.258m, and Howard $19.261m, or $23.358 vs $19.261. Perhaps the Magic dump Richardson's $5.8m in the deal, which puts the cap numbers much closer, $23.358m vs $25.061m. I seem to recall a 15% rule but not sure if that still exists.

Good info on salaries... http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm



ALCON - another big reason I've heard of Howard's Brooklyn ambition is that Adidas will raise his endorsement contract if he goes there. They don't want him in LA (Kobe) or Chicago (Rose). Read into that what you want.
 
Jason Kidd to the Knicks - that's a very good signing for them, granted they just get older, but I am sure Anthony and Stoudemire will enjoy his pass first, pass second, shoot third mentality.

Dallas is now looking at a potentially bad season but lots of cap space next summer. Would love to see Andre Miller come in for next season. They could miss the playoffs and luck out in the lottery with a high pick and then go after a top tier FA or two. Not concerned at the moment but it's going to be interesting to see them construct a new contending team. They could decide to trade Nowitzki at the deadline for the right price and start entirely from scratch but I doubt Cuban would give up his son.
 
Jamal Crawford ---> LA Clippers

Gives Miami a clear run at Allen
 
Can't believe Kidd jumped ship to the Knicks. This is turning out to be a very, very interesting off season.
 
Must wonder if clubs are doubting Ray Allen's ability to remain fit for the season. If Miami sign him, they should sit him the first 50 games then activate him for the late run.
 
I kinda want Allen to stay with the Celtics now that they have signed Terry who would be a good option of the bench. Heat will get stronger with Allen with I don't want since Im a Laker fan.
 
Lin's agreed a deal with Houston, NY has 3 days to match the offer.
 
ha_rooney said:
Lin's agreed a deal with Houston, NY has 3 days to match the offer.
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They will match it but do they need him with Kidd there? Is he going to agree to play backup for at least two more years? Felton would be a good backup option.
 
Howard to LA appears to be gathering steam with some rumours that Orlando have made the move for Bynum and others saying the Lakers don't need a long term commitment from Howard to make the deal happen. It would be a big risk making the trade unless we're certain he'll re-sign with us.

Since Utd don't look like signing anyone anytime soon, I'm hoping a move for Howard can satisfy my inner muppet.
 
Word is Ray Allen has jumped on the title train to Miami.

I think they need to have a veteran lottery, just like the draft lottery. Your position is determined by your quality vs how many years you've been in the league without a title. We don't want all the old veterans who want another title fighting over places on the Heat's bench, there needs to be an orderly method, and a fair one, to decide who gets the extra rings for the supporting cast.

Thank god they already got Juwan Howard out of the way, now they need to sign Antawn Jamison.

Allen already has titles, he should have to wait, we have to think about the feelings of these veterans.
 
@WiessD: Source: After speaking w/ Kobe & Nash and liking what he heard, @DwightHoward has told the @Lakers he'll sign contract extension with them.
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:drool: The twitter account is a journalist for AP who covers the LA teams. 'Source' reckons it could happen by the weekend.
 
I wonder how a trade for Howard will impact on Pau?

I was certain he'd be traded but with Nash now on the roster, I think Pau can improve on a disappointing season and be a vital member of the team again. On the other hand, if we trade him we could get more depth which is equally important since our bench offers feck all in terms of offense.
 
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